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Native Independence on its way Transvaal in discussions for two new states

#1 User is offline   Botha 

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 09:56 PM

BREAKING NEWS! BREKENDE NUUS!

CYBERNATIONS NETWORK NEWS [PRETORIA]: Foreign Minister Peter Stellenbosch of Transvaal dropped a surprise bombshell this afternoon during the meeting of the National Assembly when he stated that the Federal Government is in the midst of negotiations for the independence of its northern territories comprising of Northern Rhodesia (Zambia), Nyasaland (Malawi) and Northern Mozambique.

“We are in high-level discussions with two local government authorities which have been established in the wake of the recent civil unrest. We are working out the details and timetable and it is quite possible we could see the independence of the two states as early as tomorrow or Wednesday.”


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Posted 16 February 2009 - 10:01 PM

It is good to see that our Transvaler neighbors are granting more independence to native Africans.

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 10:06 PM

The Azerbaijani Republic applauds Transvaal move, we also decided to grant the Talysh minority a local government in the Talysh-Mughan region to deal with the rebellion, we wish all the new local administrations good work, and good luck.

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 10:55 PM

It’s about time, to think we once fought a war over this.
I would have never dared to imagine our objectives would have been achieved peacefully through Transvaal’s internal bureaucratic processes.

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 11:48 PM

View PostGeneralissimo, on Feb 16 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

It’s about time, to think we once fought a war over this.


<official party line> With hindsight our war was likely driven by ideology. While in fact you did lead an in-game "anti-apartheid" crusade against Transvaal two years ago, the fact of the matter is that Transvaal has never practised apartheid.

We do not deny that our nation is governed by Afrikaner supremacy and that at the time we were a member of the Nordreich, however we have always veiwed ourselves first and foremost an Afrikaner homeland as we ourselves broke off the old in-game South Africa nation of Nelson Mandela. But that never required the supression of blacks rights - execpt for the racial requirement for prime minister. But that requirement also excludes whites as well (Anglo-Transvalers). </official party line>

OOC: Ahh... reminiscing about the old days... :awesome:


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Posted 16 February 2009 - 11:55 PM

We lead a campaign for human freedom and shining justice across the world, it had nothing to do with our frothing anti-Martenism, really.
I knew that we were fighting for native home rule from the beginning, but we may or may not have exaggerated the whole apartheid thing.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:10 AM

ooc: This might need to be in the IC forum. This um.. the ooc forum.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 01:13 AM

View PostMaelstrom Vortex, on Feb 16 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

ooc: This might need to be in the IC forum. This um.. the ooc forum.


I put it here because I couldn't figure out where it was suppose to go :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:35 AM

MOZAMBIQUE TO LEAVE FEDERAL REPUBLIC?

CYBERNATIONS NETWORK NEWS [PRETORIA]: According to anonymous inside sources in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the northern portion of Mozambique will become the first independent state to break off from the Federal Republic since Cherokee Namibia last spring.

The identity of the new ruler and nation is being kept secret but according to sources the Federal Republic will retain that portion of Mozambique south of the Save River - including the major port city of Maputo - while the northern section will be granted independence.

The timetable for independence will be coordinated with the second local authority which is also in negotiations so that both states will become independent at the same time.

One ramification with the loss of Northern Mozambique will be the closing of three controversal labour camps located in Beira, Quelimane, and Nacala. The camps came under investigation last June when a massive international outcry regarding forced labour use of political prisoners resulted in an investigation carried out by Tahoe and Arctica which cleared Pretoria of any wrong doing in its camp system.

Minister of Interior Gert Boersma, who is responsible for running Transvaal labour camp system, has said the three displaced camps will likely be relocated in Rhodesia or Namibia.

Prime Minister Jakob Hertzog has stated that Pretoria will respect the integrity of its new neighbours and not force any particular government system or ideology on them, rather instead working with whatever the local people set up on their own.


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Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:43 PM

The Federal Government of Transvaal will be making an official announcement tonight regarding the independence of two nations from the Federal Republic.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:41 PM

Minister of African Affairs, Paramount Chief Judith Matambanadzo issued a statement today that independence talks for Mozambique and Malawi seem to have stalled.

“Our government is waiting to hear back from our latest communication to the new governments” said Ms. Matambanadzo.

Under the proposed independence agreements, Nyasaland (Malawi) would be granted to the nation of Association while Northern Mozambique (north of the Save River) would be granted to the nation of Awesome World Island.

“We are waiting for them to relocate their capitals within their new territories so the Federal Government of Transvaal can verefy and confirm their claims through the proper channels with the World Map Authorities. Right now neither nation would have a valid map claim due to capital requirements” explained the Paramount Chief.


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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:57 PM

View PostBotha, on Feb 19 2009, 09:46 PM, said:

Minister of African Affairs, Paramount Chief Judith Matambanadzo issued a statement today that independence talks for Mozambique and Malawi seem to have stalled.

“Our government is waiting to hear back from our latest communication to the new governments” said Ms. Matambanadzo.

Under the proposed independence agreements, Nyasaland (Malawi) would be granted to the nation of Association while Northern Mozambique (north of the Save River) would be granted to the nation of Awesome World Island.

“We are waiting for them to relocate their capitals within their new territories so the Federal Government of Transvaal can verefy and confirm their claims through the proper channels with the World Map Authorities. Right now neither nation would have a valid map claim due to capital requirements” explained the Paramount Chief.


The new Government applauds Transvaal on this glorious achievement.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 05:01 AM

We see this news as a ray of hope in the otherwise grim news that is coming from the rest of the world.
And we have decided to award Staatspresident Botha an honorary doctorate of letters in recognition of this and other other contributions to world peace and understanding.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:44 PM

OOC: I believe these things should now be in Fantasy RP forum, no?

Also I'm assuming this is both CN RP and CN RP R as your playing both.

IC:

The United States of China hereby supports native independence for these territories. European Colonialism in Africa must be pushed back.

Private: So the Chinese can buy up everything!

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 04:40 PM

View PostTriyun, on Feb 21 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

Also I'm assuming this is both CN RP and CN RP R as your playing both.


OOC: Yeah I suppose so - I'm not sure where I am anymore. I just put my feet in all the puddles.

View PostTriyun, on Feb 21 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

The United States of China hereby supports native independence for these territories. European Colonialism in Africa must be pushed back.


Transvaal's Foreign Ministry wishes to make clear that in the independence agreement, there is a grandfather clause that if the nation in question disappears or loses the territory, then it reverts back to Transvaal (same kind of agreement we had with Cherokee Naimbia last spring). So don't anyone get their hopes up for easy pickings in Africa.

That all said, but the Transvaal Government has not heard from either nation for a few days now - for all we know independence could now be stillborn.


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Posted 21 February 2009 - 04:43 PM

View PostTriyun, on Feb 21 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

OOC: I believe these things should now be in Fantasy RP forum, no?


Well I'm only posting in the main Open National RP forum - since it is, by its name, an RP forum.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:17 AM

Open National is an OOC forum for discussing/planning/arguing about roleplay and whatever else there may be.

In your case you want Fantasy roleplay (which is where people go to roleplay interactions between nations and whatever).
Game related RP is mostly for people who just bought a nuke and wants to announce it to the world type thing. I shall now move this to the correct forum.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 05:43 PM

Promised Land highly commends Transvaal on this move. This is an excellent step forward for you.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:55 PM

NATIVE INDEPENDENCE COLLAPSES

According to statement issued by Foreign Minister Peter Stellenbosch, the Federal Republic of Transvaal is retracting its move towards native independence in Nyasaland (Malawi) and Mozambique.

“Our contacts with the two governments have broken down. The Federal Republic had worked in good faith to find suitable takers but now have second thoughts since we’ve heard nothing from them. The ball is in their court as they have been notified of the requirement to relocate their capitals – which neither have done.”

“If they or anyone else wish to negotiate independence from the Federal Republic, they are going to have to make the first move. We’ve kept our end of the bargain but we’re not going to hoist some non-starter regimes on the African Continent as our nation is known throughout the world for desiring responsibility and regional stability.”


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Posted 23 February 2009 - 02:56 PM

OOC: Might take you up on this, I'm getting rather tired of my current gig. PM plz.

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