[Esau of Isaac]

So who here is also a big fan of mech games/shows? Zone of the Enders, Armored Core, etc. I've always quite liked most mech games, and find that there are some really great and reaaallly bad mech games out there.

I just recently found Super Robot Taisen Alpha for the Playstation, and it's particularly nice to play it such that I can actually understand the menus.

[Gran the Adequate]

One mecha game I always loved was for the SNES, and for the life of me I can't remember what it was called. But it had a two player version where you battled each other, and if your mech got damaged and looked like it was about to explode, you could bail and you'd be a little guy with a jet pack furiously trying to find an unscathed mech while your opponant would try to chase you down before you could find one and hit your puny human body with his mighty mech blaster. It was an awesome game.

[deligo]

I kind of think Chrome Hounds for the x-box 360 got a bad rap "don't shoot me"

[Esau of Isaac]

Gran the Terrible, on Sep 17 2008, 11:30 PM, said:

One mecha game I always loved was for the SNES, and for the life of me I can't remember what it was called. But it had a two player version where you battled each other, and if your mech got damaged and looked like it was about to explode, you could bail and you'd be a little guy with a jet pack furiously trying to find an unscathed mech while your opponant would try to chase you down before you could find one and hit your puny human body with his mighty mech blaster. It was an awesome game.

Was it one of the Mechwarrior games?

What kind of perspective was given in the game?

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I kind of think Chrome Hounds for the x-box 360 got a bad rap "don't shoot me"

I sadly never got to play that title. I've been wanting to go out and get it, though.

It is supposed to be the spiritual prequel to the Armored Core series.

This post has been edited by Esau of Isaac: 18 September 2008 - 12:36 AM

[Gran the Adequate]

Esau of Isaac, on Sep 18 2008, 06:35 AM, said:

Was it one of the Mechwarrior games?

What kind of perspective was given in the game?

It was a platform perspective, and I just remembered the name, Metal Warriors!

[deligo]

I can't really comment on the story line as it is pretty roughly woven in to the game and not very subtle so I skipped most of it.
I enjoyed the game play and the fact some of the missions were in-the-controlpit RTS while the majority was FPS made for an interesting niche along with the fact there is a dedicated following for network play.
LOL the other term for controlpit i used was filtered out.

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[Roflcopter]

Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann anyone?

As for mech games, there's one for Gamecube that I recently picked up called Custom Robo. It's meh, the controls a bit on the ganky side, but it's pretty fun.

[theArrowheadian]

I've always been a fan of a mech game because I like the ideal of a giant robot you control, but most suck, IDK why b/c most of the mecha anime/manga have human like movements. If it's made in the west and like Mech Warrior I like those, because for the style they get it right IMO. I wish they'd make another. I think the last one they made Lone Wolf was awesome and had like an online galaxy conquest mode with like thousands of players, but I never thought the game to be too popular.

[Kenadian_2006]

Nothing beats ZOE. Period. The only thing that would beat it would be a Gundam game using the same mechanics.

[Esau of Isaac]

theArrowheadian, on Sep 18 2008, 12:03 PM, said:

I've always been a fan of a mech game because I like the ideal of a giant robot you control, but most suck, IDK why b/c most of the mecha anime/manga have human like movements. If it's made in the west and like Mech Warrior I like those, because for the style they get it right IMO. I wish they'd make another. I think the last one they made Lone Wolf was awesome and had like an online galaxy conquest mode with like thousands of players, but I never thought the game to be too popular.

I actually have Lone Wolf. It's pretty fun, but there is just no customization whatsoever.

I really, really like the idea of being capable of leaving a mech, however, and hope that in later mecha games they implement some system in which the mecha, while still central, can walk into a trap by several foot soldiers and possibly lose. I had before the game came out thought of all the cool things a player could do, such as hiding inside buildings, or placing suits at strategic points after running away on foot to lure others. But sadly, they made it such that you can't really do much at all aside from planting bombs after you've left the mech.

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Nothing beats ZOE. Period. The only thing that would beat it would be a Gundam game using the same mechanics.

Or Super Robot frickin' Taisen. Seriously, I absolutely love this series to no end.

I liked ZoE. But it felt somewhat shallow and arcadey after awhile. The second was a terrific improvement, but it still needs some improvement and depth.

[Methrage]

I enjoyed Armored Core 4, its the only one I really played for any decent amount of time. I own MechWarrior 2 for PS, but only played it for maybe a few minutes, as I didn't really like it.

This thread reminded me I was planning to check out Armored Core: For Answer when it came out, anyone play that yet? Is it any good?

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[Kenadian_2006]

Esau of Isaac, on Sep 19 2008, 12:48 AM, said:

I actually have Lone Wolf. It's pretty fun, but there is just no customization whatsoever.

I really, really like the idea of being capable of leaving a mech, however, and hope that in later mecha games they implement some system in which the mecha, while still central, can walk into a trap by several foot soldiers and possibly lose. I had before the game came out thought of all the cool things a player could do, such as hiding inside buildings, or placing suits at strategic points after running away on foot to lure others. But sadly, they made it such that you can't really do much at all aside from planting bombs after you've left the mech.


Or Super Robot frickin' Taisen. Seriously, I absolutely love this series to no end.

I liked ZoE. But it felt somewhat shallow and arcadey after awhile. The second was a terrific improvement, but it still needs some improvement and depth.

Strategy game =/= action game. SRW and ZOE and totally different genres, you can't compare them. ZoE had all the fundamentals to make a fun and memorable action game, and it did. Both times.

The only game I've ever played that comes close is the mech action in Lost Planet.

[Melos]

Gundam Wing Endless Duel .

[Esau of Isaac]

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I enjoyed Armored Core 4, its the only one I really played for any decent amount of time. I own MechWarrior 2 for PS, but only played it for maybe a few minutes, as I didn't really like it.

This thread reminded me I was planning to check out Armored Core: For Answer when it came out, anyone play that yet? Is it any good?

The story, graphics, parts, and all around customization has been greatly improved. If you liked 4, you're sure to love FA. I'm actually thinking of heading down to the store and buying it today.

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Strategy game =/= action game. SRW and ZOE and totally different genres, you can't compare them.

They're mecha games, of course I can compare them. And one of the three was completely based off the SRT series.

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ZoE had all the fundamentals to make a fun and memorable action game, and it did. Both times.

Yes, and I want a third badly.

[Heyman]

Kenadian_2006, on Sep 18 2008, 02:23 PM, said:

Nothing beats ZOE. Period. The only thing that would beat it would be a Gundam game using the same mechanics.

We have a winner! ZOE was the most fun I've ever had in a mech game.

[Kenadian_2006]

Esau of Isaac, on Sep 19 2008, 08:17 PM, said:

The story, graphics, parts, and all around customization has been greatly improved. If you liked 4, you're sure to love FA. I'm actually thinking of heading down to the store and buying it today.


They're mecha games, of course I can compare them. And one of the three was completely based off the SRT series.


Yes, and I want a third badly.

Too bad you don't have a PLAYSTATION 3, XBOX boy!

Annd...what one of the three was based off SRW?

Also...you can't compare them. Comparing them is like comparing apples to the cosmic !@#$@#$ dust which makes up the Crab Nebula.

[Esau of Isaac]

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Too bad you don't have a PLAYSTATION 3, XBOX boy!

Well, it's on the 360. I think I might just wait until the price lowers, though I'd like to support the series because AC:FA very nearly did not come over stateside.

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Annd...what one of the three was based off SRW?

Fist of Mars, of course.

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Also...you can't compare them. Comparing them is like comparing apples to the cosmic !@#$@#$ dust which makes up the Crab Nebula.

It's like comparing apples and oranges. Which ironically can be compared pretty well (both are fruit, both are relatively circular in nature, etc.).

[Kenadian_2006]

Esau of Isaac, on Sep 20 2008, 12:41 AM, said:

Well, it's on the 360. I think I might just wait until the price lowers, though I'd like to support the series because AC:FA very nearly did not come over stateside.


Fist of Mars, of course.


It's like comparing apples and oranges. Which ironically can be compared pretty well (both are fruit, both are relatively circular in nature, etc.).

I was talking about ZoE 3, not any Armored Core game.

Ah yes, Fist of Mars. Hardly par for the course with the ZoE series. ZoE is about the action games, not the one-off GBA strategy game. (which I liked btw, though Original Generation is definitely better)

And don't dissect a saying. (

[Boyle]

If it wasn't Mech Warrior, then it wasn't worth it. I just say that because Mech Warrior was the very first mech and first person type game I played. Compared to it, Mech Assault was terrible. Chrome Hounds for the 360 isn't bad, though.

[Esau of Isaac]

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I was talking about ZoE 3, not any Armored Core game.

Ah, well, ZoE 3 hasn't really been confirmed. I'd seen an article on it a year or two ago, but nothing since. So I'm not sure it's even being made right now. And that makes me sad face.

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Ah yes, Fist of Mars. Hardly par for the course with the ZoE series. ZoE is about the action games, not the one-off GBA strategy game. (which I liked btw, though Original Generation is definitely better)

There are only three of them, and the points presented in the title are relevant to the overall timeline.

SRT is certainly pretty filled with action, you're merely not controlling the mech directly. And at least in terms of variations of mechs, characters, and even the storyline, I do love it more.

ZoE is very awesome, though, and I really think they should work on the 0 Shift and flesh it out even more. It would make for even more awesome gameplay than the second one...*starts a new game just to use the ability*

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If it wasn't Mech Warrior, then it wasn't worth it. I just say that because Mech Warrior was the very first mech and first person type game I played. Compared to it, Mech Assault was terrible. Chrome Hounds for the 360 isn't bad, though.

I never got to play Mechwarrior until the third one, which I had great fun with. It just seemed not as fun because the battles were much slower and the customization was at a much lower pace than I was used to.

This is mostly because the first mech game that I ever played was Armored Core 2, and the AC series is known for its incredible depth in terms of customization. Head, Core, Arms, Legs, Boosters, FCS, Generator, Radiator, Shoulder Extensions, Weapons on the back left and right side, and weapons on the right and left arms. Including AC options, you are left with huge amounts of customization to work with, and it's just something I haven't seen such standards in other games, sadly.

This post has been edited by Esau of Isaac: 19 September 2008 - 11:06 PM