[Aiden Ford]

Within Osea, much has been silent since the Expedition returned from Duestchland with a pair of Panzer-Laufers. They have been hard at work. The first units of the New Strateigic Armored Forces have finally rolled off the lines.

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[Comrade]

Molakia ask Osea to calm down. While the murder of the reporter was sad, war shouldnt be the result. Remember that Uberstein is not as mentally whole as the rest of us.

[Aiden Ford]

Comrade, on Aug 31 2008, 04:18 PM, said:

Molakia ask Osea to calm down. While the murder of the reporter was sad, war shouldnt be the result. Remember that Uberstein is not as mentally whole as the rest of us.

This is not about Uberstienia, this is about something else. It is only a complete coincidense, after all you do not think that we planned the reporter to be shot? After all, that would be completely against our National Ideals.

[Ranather]

Though Franzharia rarely agrees with Molakia, this time we feel his word have merit. A strong denouncement ought to suffice, no more bloodshed is needed in that region.

[Aiden Ford]

Yet again, it was only a unrelated event to our buildup, there are more pressing issues other than some Sweedish Psuedo-National Socialists that are in a far off land. For instance, Oil, and living room is a great issue in these lands.

[BaronUberstein]

sgaford, on Aug 31 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

Yet again, it was only a unrelated event to our buildup, there are more pressing issues other than some Sweedish Psuedo-National Socialists that are in a far off land. For instance, Oil, and living room is a great issue in these lands.

National Socialist? The Uberstein Empire actually executes Nazi's and denies them freedom of speech. I suggest you watch your mouth.

Our military could crush your bug of a nation in an instant.

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[Aiden Ford]

BaronUberstein, on Aug 31 2008, 04:26 PM, said:

National Socialist? The Uberstein Empire actually executes Nazi's and denies them freedom of speech. I suggest you watch your mouth.

Your Ideology is so $%&@ed up on a scale that we can only compare it to those that follow in its footsteps, Stalinism, and Nazism. Of course, being called a Nazi is much better than being called a Stalinist.

[BaronUberstein]

sgaford, on Aug 31 2008, 01:28 PM, said:

Your Ideology is so $%&@ed up on a scale that we can only compare it to those that follow in its footsteps, Stalinism, and Nazism. Of course, being called a Nazi is much better than being called a Stalinist.

Ubersteinianism: Explained in full.

The people are cared for, there is no homeless or poverty stricken. Everyone gets default state housing and state weekly rations, and a state-industry job. They pass tests to see which job they get, if they do their state service, they can get a mark-based income and a buisness lisence, allowing them to use the free market.

Industries that are state-controled:
+Military
+Cattle and some agriculture
+Metal, smithing, etc etc

State service can range from serving in the military to being a crossing guard for a few years.

There is little to no privacy except if you do your state service and have a large estate of private property. Otherwise, there are Cameras, microphones, and other monitoring devices to ensure the safety of the people. The police need a warrent from the Office of State Protection to search private property.

The government can either have a dictator or a council of rulers. For example, when Uberstein eventually dies (Old age or war, who knows), his advisors will become the ruling council, and apoint who will rule after them. The military is also a large part of the Ubersteinian system, and serving for longer than your state service is an honor.

It requires a rebuilding of cultures, nationalism cannot exist in it's past form because this system may span multiple countries, so the cultures of old must be minimised, and a single unity is created. No matter your race, land of origin, or religion, you are all equal in the Ubersteinian system if you do your duty. For example, if it spanned over France and Germany, there would be problems with Old Nationalism. After the "Cultural Revolution" of Ubersteinian Theory, you wouldn't have French or German, you would have Ubersteinian, a single culture that supports itself without strife.

Religion is kept out of public property, a completely secular state is needed for efficent and 'rational' decision making.

That, is Ubersteinianism in a nutshell. Uberstein himself is just a bit nuts, so Ubersteinia just looks crazy

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[Aiden Ford]

BaronUberstein, on Aug 31 2008, 04:39 PM, said:

Ubersteinianism: Explained in full.

The people are cared for, there is no homeless or poverty stricken. Everyone gets default state housing and state weekly rations, and a state-industry job. They pass tests to see which job they get, if they do their state service, they can get a mark-based income and a buisness lisence, allowing them to use the free market.

Industries that are state-controled:
+Military
+Cattle and some agriculture
+Metal, smithing, etc etc

State service can range from serving in the military to being a crossing guard for a few years.

There is little to no privacy except if you do your state service and have a large estate of private property. Otherwise, there are Cameras, microphones, and other monitoring devices to ensure the safety of the people. The police need a warrent from the Office of State Protection to search private property.

The government can either have a dictator or a council of rulers. For example, when Uberstein eventually dies (Old age or war, who knows), his advisors will become the ruling council, and apoint who will rule after them. The military is also a large part of the Ubersteinian system, and serving for longer than your state service is an honor.

It requires a rebuilding of cultures, nationalism cannot exist in it's past for, so the cultures of old must be minimised, and a single unity is created. No matter your race, land of origin, or religion, you are all equal in the Ubersteinian system if you do your duty.

Religion is kept out of public property, a completely secular state is needed for efficent and 'rational' decision making.

That, is Ubersteinianism in a nutshell. Uberstein himself is just a bit nuts, so Ubersteinia just looks crazy

so, you are simply trying to create sheeple.

[BaronUberstein]

sgaford, on Aug 31 2008, 01:41 PM, said:

so, you are simply trying to create sheeple.

Supporters, they are encouraged to think, scientists are some of the best paid people in the nation. What we are trying to do is remove the animalistic instint of emotion from people and have them follow the ideals of logical efficiency. Industrial power, Military power, and Protection from the state.


OOC: It isn't ment to be the nicest ideology, it's ment for national efficency and growth with the ability to protect itself. It takes care of the people, and it works fine if you have the right kind of leader. Sadly if you get a nutjob in power (I mean someone worse than Uberstein), it goes to hell.

[Aiden Ford]

BaronUberstein, on Aug 31 2008, 04:46 PM, said:

Supporters, they are encouraged to think, scientists are some of the best paid people in the nation. What we are trying to do is remove the animalistic instint of emotion from people and have them follow the ideals of logical efficiency. Industrial power, Military power, and Protection from the state.


OOC: It isn't ment to be the nicest ideology, it's ment for national efficency and growth with the ability to protect itself. It takes care of the people, and it works fine if you have the right kind of leader. Sadly if you get a nutjob in power (I mean someone worse than Uberstein), it goes to hell.

OOC: Yes, and you called me a totalitarian $%&@tard, or was it Hitler? Yet your Ideology is nearly a hundred times worse than mine when it comes to civil Liberties.

IC: Your Ideas of the best form of state yet again, sicken Oseans, and that is why we supported Malmo. Maybe if you gave out more liberties to your people, diplomacy would even be an option

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[Dark Tyrant]

Cobra is unsure what do make of this buildup.

[Comrade]

Molakia thinks both world leaders are insane and both require a timeout. To the Corners, both of you!

[Otto Verteidiger]

OOC: Uber, some people will view your ideology as evil regardless. Same probably with mine, Kaiser Martens, Emperor Mudd's, and people like this. Just roll with it I guess.

[Aiden Ford]

Highbuzz, on Aug 31 2008, 04:52 PM, said:

OOC: Uber, some people will view your ideology as evil regardless. Same probably with mine, Kaiser Martens, Emperor Mudd's, and people like this. Just roll with it I guess.

OOC: I have yet to even reveal my Ideology, of course it is sicker in any mans opinion than all of yours, but atleast we are free

[Otto Verteidiger]

sgaford, on Aug 31 2008, 03:53 PM, said:

OOC: I have yet to even reveal my Ideology, of course it is sicker in any mans opinion than all of yours, but atleast we are free

OOC: We'll see. I think I'm the first and only to execute Communists in my country on a large scale though.

[Aiden Ford]

Highbuzz, on Aug 31 2008, 04:54 PM, said:

OOC: We'll see. I think I'm the first and only to execute Communists in my country on a large scale though.

OOC: In the Maroon War I RPed a full scale Communist Hunt, using them like deer....

[BaronUberstein]

sgaford, on Aug 31 2008, 01:48 PM, said:

OOC: Yes, and you called me a totalitarian $%&@tard, or was it Hitler? Yet your Ideology is nearly a hundred times worse than mine when it comes to civil Liberties.

IC: Your Ideas of the best form of state yet again, sicken Oseans, and that is why we supported Malmo. Maybe if you gave out more liberties to your people, diplomacy would even be an option

You really wish to challange the Ubersteinian military with your pesky 9000 troops against our 95,000 infantry? Our 950 tanks against your 3? Our airforce against your aircraft-lacking country? Your 13 technology against our 353+the technology of our allies? You have nothing my little friend.

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[Aiden Ford]

BaronUberstein, on Aug 31 2008, 04:56 PM, said:

You really wish to challange the Ubersteinian military with your pesky 9000 troops against our 95,000 infantry? Our 950 tanks against your 3? Our airforce against your aircraft-lacking country?

Why not, your conscript forces would probably abandon at the first chance they got as your horrible system forces them to serve.

[Dark Tyrant]

sgaford, on Aug 31 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

Why not, your conscript forces would probably abandon at the first chance they got as your horrible system forces them to serve.

Cobra: Ubersteins soldiers are anything but conscripts. Trust us on that.

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