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#1 User is offline   Lamuella 

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:03 PM

This report is a month old, but I only just found it and thought it worthy of posting:

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In study, evidence of liberal-bias bias
Cable talking heads accuse broadcast networks of liberal bias -- but a think tank finds that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Barack Obama than on John McCain in recent weeks.
By James Rainey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
July 27, 2008
Haters of the mainstream media reheated a bit of conventional wisdom last week.

Barack Obama, they said, was getting a free ride from those insufferable liberals.

Such pronouncements, sorry to say, tend to be wrong since they describe a monolithic media that no longer exists. Information today cascades from countless outlets and channels, from the Huffington Post to Politico.com to CBS News and beyond.

But now there's additional evidence that casts doubt on the bias claims aimed -- with particular venom -- at three broadcast networks.

The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, where researchers have tracked network news content for two decades, found that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Obama than on Republican John McCain during the first six weeks of the general-election campaign.

You read it right: tougher on the Democrat.

During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Conservatives have been snarling about the grotesque disparity revealed by another study, the online Tyndall Report, which showed Obama receiving more than twice as much network air time as McCain in the last month and a half. Obama got 166 minutes of coverage in the seven weeks after the end of the primary season, compared with 67 minutes for McCain, according to longtime network-news observer Andrew Tyndall.

I wrote last week that the networks should do more to better balance the air time. But I also suggested that much of the attention to Obama was far from glowing.

That earned a spasm of e-mails that described me as irrational, unpatriotic and . . . somehow . . . French.

But the center's director, RobertLichter, who has won conservative hearts with several of his previous studies, told me the facts were the facts.

"This information should blow away this silly assumption that more coverage is always better coverage," he said.

Here's a bit more on the research, so you'll understand how the communications professor and his researchers arrived at their conclusions.

The center reviews and "codes" statements on the evening news as positive or negative toward the candidates. For example, when NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell said in June that Obama "has problems" with white men and suburban women, the media center deemed that a negative.

The positive and negative remarks about each candidate are then totaled to calculate the percentages that cut for and against them.

Visual images and other more subjective cues are not assessed. But the tracking applies a measure of analytical rigor to a field rife with seat-of-the-pants fulminations.

The media center's most recent batch of data covers nightly newscasts beginning June 8, the day after Hillary Rodham Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination, ushering in the start of the general-election campaign. The data ran through Monday, as Obama began his overseas trip.

Most on-air statements during that time could not be classified as positive or negative, Lichter said. The study found, on average, less than two opinion statements per night on the candidates on all three networks combined -- not exactly embracing or pummeling Obama or McCain. But when a point of view did emerge, it tended to tilt against Obama.

That was a reversal of the trend during the primaries, when the same researchers found that 64% of statements about Obama -- new to the political spotlight -- were positive, but just 43% of statements about McCain were positive.

Such reversals are nothing new in national politics, as reporters tend to warm up to newcomers, then turn increasingly critical when such candidates emerge as front-runners.

It might be tempting to discount the latest findings by Lichter's researchers. But this guy is anything but a liberal toady.

In 2006, conservative cable showmen Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly had Lichter, a onetime Fox News contributor, on their programs. They heralded his findings in the congressional midterm election: that the networks were giving far more positive coverage to the Democrats.

More proof of the liberal domination of the media, Beck and O'Reilly declared.

Now the same researchers have found something less palatable to those conspiracy theorists.

But don't expect cable talking heads to end their trashing of the networks.

Repeated assertions that the networks are in the tank for Democrats represent not only an article of faith on Fox, but a crucial piece of branding. On Thursday night, O'Reilly and his trusty lieutenant Bernard Goldberg worked themselves into righteous indignation -- again -- about the liberal bias they knew was lurking.

Goldberg seemed gleeful beyond measure in saying that "they're fiddling while their ratings are burning."

O'Reilly assured viewers that "the folks" -- whom he claims to treasure far more than effete network executives do -- "understand what's happening."

By the way, Lichter's group also surveys the first half-hour of "Special Report With Brit Hume," Fox News' answer to the network evening news shows.

The review found that, since the start of the general-election campaign, "Special Report" offered more opinions on the two candidates than all three networks combined.

No surprise there. Previous research has shown Fox News to be opinion-heavy.

"Special Report" was tougher than the networks on Obama -- with 79% of the statements about the Democrat negative, compared with 61% negative on McCain.

There's plenty of room for questioning the networks' performance and watching closely for symptoms of Obamamania.

But could we at least remain focused on what ABC, NBC and CBS actually put on the air, rather than illusions that their critics create to puff themselves up?


This is interesting, in part because it gives a more complicated view of the traditional "liberal media loves Obama" position. The media did cover Obama more than McCain on the major TV stations, but this coverage was negative much more than it was positive, and negative much more than coverage of McCain was negative.

What it tells me is really this: Obama gets more coverage because he's "the story" of this campaign. However, this coverage slants to the negative in part because it is a talking point of certain right win elements that the media is biased to the left. The body of the media that tries to be centrist can only respond by protesting they are trying to be the centre, and shifting somewhat to the right to deflect the claim. There is no better way (they think) of showing you are not giving Barack Obama a lovefest than by being openly critical of him.

Fundamentally, media coverage is always going to be biased, but the split of the bias isn't as straightforward as left-right. Media is biased towards simplicity. It is biased towards issues that can be portrayed as two sides fighting with the truth in the middle. It is biased towards coverage of this country. It is biased towards wemotional moments that can be put together into a "story". It is biased towards issues that can be summed up in a 3 minute report.

Reducing it to a left-right bias (with the media in love with Obama) makes a good story, but it is a long way from the truth.

Thoughts?

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:17 PM

BS, thats my thought.

The Mainstream Media Love BHO. They pump him up as much as possible, and will continue to do so.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:20 PM

It seems that the private media is right biased, while NPR and government sponsored television is extremely liberal biased. I don't need a study to turn on Wait, wait, don't tell me and hear the propoganda which that machine turns out. This reason is why I listen more to the BBC now then anywhere else.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:22 PM

View PostBigLou, on Aug 28 2008, 02:17 PM, said:

BS, thats my thought.

The Mainstream Media Love BHO. They pump him up as much as possible, and will continue to do so.


so your considered response to this fairly comprehensive study is "nuh uh!"?

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:23 PM

This is all subjective tripe and is an insult to everyone's intelligence, both liberal and conservative.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:24 PM

View PostLamuella, on Aug 28 2008, 06:22 PM, said:

so your considered response to this fairly comprehensive study is "nuh uh!"?



Pretty much, BS is BS and needs no further discussion. :lol:

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:25 PM

View PostBigLou, on Aug 28 2008, 07:17 PM, said:

BS, thats my thought.

The Mainstream Media Love BHO. They pump him up as much as possible, and will continue to do so.


When presented with the facts you still disbelieve. Interesting.


i think it's an interesting study and I don't think the media agrees per-say with anyone but that, what the article said: he was new and it took time for them to warm up but when they did, they became critical of him. It's kind of like a swinging pendulum.

Though, I do have my reservations of media today at least, as stated in the article, most of the new reported on those 3 networks is neutral. No surprise about the Fox News being 'opinion-heavy'.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:26 PM

I wonder how much of the negative Obama coverage is there due to an ongoing love affair with Hillary?


If Hillary hadn't been the main competition for Obama, would there still be the same amount of negative coverage?

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:27 PM

I don't watch much TV, but I haven't heard many negative reports about Obama. I can't even think of one off the top of my head.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:27 PM

View PostCzarGarrett, on Aug 28 2008, 06:26 PM, said:

I wonder how much of the negative Obama coverage is there due to an ongoing love affair with Hillary?


If Hillary hadn't been the main competition for Obama, would there still be the same amount of negative coverage?

Thats an excellent point. Hillary has certainly been skewing the results.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:33 PM

View PostCzarGarrett, on Aug 28 2008, 06:26 PM, said:

I wonder how much of the negative Obama coverage is there due to an ongoing love affair with Hillary?


If Hillary hadn't been the main competition for Obama, would there still be the same amount of negative coverage?

I really don't see a love affair with Senator Clinton or with Senator Obama or with Senator McCain, and I certainly haven't seen much negative Obama coverage at all. I can think of stories regarding his affiliation with a former domestic terrorist and the one about the preacher in his church saying some stupid things but that's about it.

The news media are just mouthpieces for whatever interest group is handing them a lead on a story. They gleefully jump on it and with a minimum of fact checking they toss it on the air to fill time in the 24 Hour News Cycle. There have been incidents where news anchors have read word for word what a press release from an interest group said, presented as factual news by a supposedly reputable news outlet. The 3 major networks are a little better about it but not by much, especially since they are struggling to maintain relevance while CNN and the other cable outlets are broadcasting news while they have soap operas or Oprah on.

The problem isn't bias, it's that the news organizations are sacrificing accuracy and credibility to be the first one on a story. For some crazy reason that's more important than the story being unbiased and factually correct.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:34 PM

View PostBigLou, on Aug 28 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

Pretty much, BS is BS and needs no further discussion. :lol:


I'm glad you've decided you don't need to think.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:35 PM

View PostCzarGarrett, on Aug 28 2008, 07:26 PM, said:

I wonder how much of the negative Obama coverage is there due to an ongoing love affair with Hillary?


If Hillary hadn't been the main competition for Obama, would there still be the same amount of negative coverage?
Depends. If the other person had not been as unique as Hillary or Obama, doubtful. However, if it had been someone as unique as those to, probably.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:39 PM

Thinktanks: methodology optional.

I take this cum grano salis.



EDIT: *remembers terrorist fist jab quote and laughs hysterically*

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:46 PM

I'm not sure why you think the CMPA's methodology is suspect.

Here's their press release on the matter:

http://www.cmpa.com/...s%207_29_08.htm

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:52 PM

View PostLamuella, on Aug 28 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

I'm not sure why you think the CMPA's methodology is suspect.

Here's their press release on the matter:

http://www.cmpa.com/...s%207_29_08.htm


Flaw: Lack of definition as to what counts as positive or negative. Same goes for favorable or unfavorable.

They call it a scientific study because most people will not question anything that bears that label. Did they get a team of 100 people to read each article and then cast votes on whether they felt it was more negative or positive? Did they give the option of a neutral rating? heh. Even this would not be enough to make it worth taking seriously.

Now give me statistics on something more specific like personal attacks in the media and then we can get some slightly more accurate (though still judgment laden) numbers.


EDIT: Second example (negative) is not self-evidently negative at all. Asking a question that divides loyalties is not tantamount to a negative article. This methodology more or less assumes that all media is hack media for one side or another.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 01:24 PM

View PostBigLou, on Aug 28 2008, 11:17 AM, said:

BS, thats my thought.

The Mainstream Media Love BHO. They pump him up as much as possible, and will continue to do so.

Yep, that's why they totally ignored that Reverend Wright thing and absolutely did NOT spend a solid month with it plastered on every news outlet in the country 24 hours a day replaying the same clips over and over and over and over...

And that's why they completely ignored that "bitter" incident.

And that's why we NEVER hear anyone on the major networks referring to poll results as "Obama's white voter problem" or "Obama's Latino voter problem" or "Obama's female voter problem" or "Obama's Jewish voter problem" even when he's performing comparably or better in those groups than previous candidates

And that's why every time McCain screws up in any conceivable way we never hear the end of it on all the network news broadcasts. I mean that's all we ever see! McCain, McCain, McCain and what misspeaks or gaffes he's committed today!



Get real.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:03 PM

Fox News said the other day that 9 out of 10 MSNBC reports on Obama were positive and that he got 5 times more coverage than McCain. But it was Fox News so, who cares, right?

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Yep, that's why they totally ignored that Reverend Wright thing and absolutely did NOT spend a solid month with it plastered on every news outlet in the country 24 hours a day replaying the same clips over and over and over and over...


McCain's priest is not a radical nutjob. Obama has a white voter problem. All Democrats do. Obama had a Latino voter problem in the primaries, though not in the general election. Obama has a problem with disgruntled female Clinton voters (the pollsters say so, not me). Obama is underperforming other Democrats in the Jewish vote.

You know, for a shoe in 100+ electoral votes margin president, Obama is having a lot of problems winning this election. That's where the story is right now... because it's true.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:57 PM

View PostMussolandia, on Aug 28 2008, 04:03 PM, said:

Fox News said the other day that 9 out of 10 MSNBC reports on Obama were positive and that he got 5 times more coverage than McCain. But it was Fox News so, who cares, right?


what evidence did they cite for this?

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McCain's priest is not a radical nutjob.


John Hagee and Rod Parsley aren't radical nutjobs?

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 03:06 PM

View PostLamuella, on Aug 28 2008, 03:56 PM, said:

what evidence did they cite for this?


Silly Lamuella, Fox doesn't need "evidence" or "proof" they simply state the Facts! :awesome:

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