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#1 User is offline   Red Dragon 

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:32 PM

you all worship the same basic "god" so heres my question. Prove to me that the Greco-Roman, Norse, Celtic, Egyptian, Babylonian, Hindu, African, Inuit, Native American, old Slavic, etc. gods are shams, and your god is real? Just give me something that can only be attributed to your god, and not the other gods, man, or the laws of nature.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:34 PM

This will turn out well.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:37 PM

As much as I'd love to get in another religious debate, I've been trying to kick the habit.

View PostKenadian_2006, on Jun 5 2008, 01:00 AM, said:

This will turn out well.
Don't they always? :nuke:

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:40 PM

sorry, but it's been troubling me for a bit, ever since i asked a religious friend the same basic question, and he didn't have a valid answer ( bible is the word of god. Why? it is) so bare with me

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:42 PM

Welcome to the question that led me to agnostic atheism.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:51 PM

Christianity is just like the rest of the religions. They all say they are right. Why did you pick Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:51 PM

An excellent question. I eagerly await the answer of the bible-bashers.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:52 PM

View Postmykep, on Jun 5 2008, 05:16 AM, said:

Christianity is just like the rest of the religions. They all say they are right. Why did you pick Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

they are the majority. Most of those gods i listed are now defunct.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:54 PM

View PostRed_Dragon, on Jun 5 2008, 01:18 AM, said:

they are the majority. Most of those gods i listed are now defunct.


If they are defunct I guess noone believes in them anymore.

Edit: This questions should have been directed at the rest of them.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 10:55 PM

View Postmykep, on Jun 5 2008, 05:20 AM, said:

If they are defunct I guess noone believes in them anymore.

basicly ya. there are some revival movements, but in the basic sense

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 11:02 PM

I'm not overly religious, in fact I'd probably call my self agnostic, but your question is essentially the standard "Prove God exists" question. You said yourself that the legitimacy of the pre-Christian religions isn't in question by anyone, so why ask?

What are your reasons for not believing in those deities?

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 11:06 PM

View PostMack Truck, on Jun 5 2008, 05:27 AM, said:

I'm not overly religious, in fact I'd probably call my self agnostic, but your question is essentially the standard "Prove God exists" question. You said yourself that the legitimacy of the pre-Christian religions isn't in question by anyone, so why ask?

What are your reasons for not believing in those deities?

it was not repeated into my head by family and media that they exist when i was young, or any deity by my family at least.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 11:09 PM

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it was not repeated into my head by family and media that they exist when i was young, or any deity by my family at least.


If it doesn't interest you, why do you ask questions about it?

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 11:50 PM

You can't compare dead pagan religions to God.

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:03 AM

IMO they still believe in multiple gods, they just call them patron saints and the high god, God.

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:10 AM

*yawn* Just drop it people.

To atheists: Why do you care? Who cares. Look, if you don't believe in God, fine and dandy. If we're all going to die and rot away into nothing, why do you care about the religious people? Just leave them alone if we're all going to end up in the same place.

To religious individuals: Why do you care about the atheists? Just keep to your religion and follow and everything will flow nice and easy. If you truly believe in it, ok, worship all you want.

FACT: There is no way to prove God, and there is no way to disprove him. End of storyyyyy.

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:12 AM

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You can't compare dead pagan religions to God.


I think the question is why.

Renolds was a better answer of the question, I beleive those three should be picked because to my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong guys) they are the only mono-thesic religion, the one with One True Gods, the rest generally have multi religion facets so bassicly you could make the point that they are worshiping the same gods as have went before,are still worshiped, but just calling them by different names. Pretty much the idea behind the Greek and Roman pantheons if I remember correctly ( again correct me if I'm wrong people it dosen't bother me but please be gentle if you do I haven't had a conversation like this in a good long time). So to rephrase the OP question in a manner for the majority religions. Why is your beleif in one god correct? And I guess to those other religions here. Why is your beleif in many gods the correct version?

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To atheists: Why do you care? Who cares. Look, if you don't believe in God, fine and dandy. If we're all going to die and rot away into nothing, why do you care about the religious people? Just leave them alone if we're all going to end up in the same place.


Most athests try and figure out why people will squander their lives on something they see as a big fairy tale, sort of trying to convince them they are wasting their lives, adn thus argue with religious people/.

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To religious individuals: Why do you care about the atheists? Just keep to your religion and follow and everything will flow nice and easy. If you truly believe in it, ok, worship all you want.


Must religious people beleive that if you aren't religious you rot in hell, and they would like to try and help those who don't beleive to garuntee them a nice place to go to in the after life, and thus argue with athiests.

Over simplification but its the bare bones.

EDIT to avoid a double post.

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:20 AM

View PostAzreal, on Jun 5 2008, 02:37 AM, said:

I think the question is why.

Renolds was a better answer of the question, I beleive those three should be picked because to my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong guys) they are the only mono-thesic religion, the one with One True Gods, the rest generally have multi religion facets so bassicly you could make the point that they are worshiping the same gods as have went before,are still worshiped, but just calling them by different names. Pretty much the idea behind the Greek and Roman pantheons if I remember correctly ( again correct me if I'm wrong people it dosen't bother me but please be gentle if you do I haven't had a conversation like this in a good long time). So to rephrase the OP question in a manner for the majority religions. Why is your beleif in one god correct? And I guess to those other religions here. Why is your beleif in many gods the correct version?



Most athests try and figure out why people will squander their lives on something they see as a big fairy tale, sort of trying to convince them they are wasting their lives, adn thus argue with religious people/.



Must religious people beleive that if you aren't religious you rot in hell, and they would like to try and help those who don't beleive to garuntee them a nice place to go to in the after life, and thus argue with athiests.

Over simplification but its the bare bones.

EDIT to avoid a double post.


lol well I know the reasons, I was just pointing out a little thought that would save us all a lot of time :popcorn:

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:21 AM

Its a religious discussion thread, on an internet forum. In a section called the boiler room. I garuntee thought will fly out the window soon enough.

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:21 AM

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Why is your beleif in one god correct? And I guess to those other religions here. Why is your beleif in many gods the correct version?


Why is your belief in no god the correct version?

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Most athests try and figure out why people will squander their lives on something they see as a big fairy tale, sort of trying to convince them they are wasting their lives, adn thus argue with religious people/.


I know alot of atheists. They simply dont care about religion anymore. I've never met an atheist in RL that questioned my religion.

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Must religious people beleive that if you aren't religious you rot in hell, and they would like to try and help those who don't beleive to garuntee them a nice place to go to in the after life, and thus argue with athiests.


i know alot of religious people too. I know Jadists who hang out with Christians. They never mention 'rot in hell.' Actually, Those three religions are VERY tolerant of other religions, almost to the point that being a good person will give you a nice place in the afterlife. What you're citing are extremists, and every religion has them.

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