[Elyat]

Do these people really think they're helping Barack?

I'm going to drop out of my university right now because I got there on white entitlement (meanwhile, Obama, an admitted B-student at his prep school -- something nobody I know could afford -- got into Harvard on ... merit) even though my ancestors didn't have slaves and they didn't live where there was slavery at the time and had to compete with slaves flooding the job market and depressing wages and employment.

But really ... do you think this church is aware that their sermons are video taped?

[Sorum]

Not the best support from them, is it?

[Lord GVChamp]

Yep, I was crying while Hillary was crying because a white wasn't going to win the Democratic nomination.


Never mind that I'm probably voting for McCain anyways!

[mykep]

heh. Unbelievable. Slavery has been here from the beginning of time. It wasn't just blacks. The word slave doesn't even start with them. Do I comment on my ancestors that were serfs? or my Scot-Irish ancestors that worked for generations as 'crop growers' on plantations to immigrate to America?

How about the black on black slavery that started the slave trade? Why not turn to your fellow blacks and ask them for payment for your suffering.

blacks were slaves, but not all slaves were black. As whites were slave owners, not all slave owners were white.

[Nicodemus]

I hate that nonsense. So lets just assume that EVERY SINGLE successful white person was only successful because of their parents. B.S. I'm not buying it.

Edit: But to answer the question, yes, it does hurt Barack.

This post has been edited by Nicodemus: 30 May 2008 - 04:55 PM

[Arcturus Jefferson]

How pertinent to and related to the Christian walk of faith, which one normally expects in a church.

[Dennis Von Bremen]

I thought the beginning was alright, I mean he is clearly talking only about White people who have ancestors that were Slave Owners. If that is the case then I don't see why he is so bad.

Besides that he is white himself, so I would say that gets rid of the claims that Obama's Church is racist, it is not inline at all to mainstream US things but it seems alright to me. I mean if he is talking towards all white people then that is indeed stupid, but if it is aimed only towards those who had Ancestors who owned plantations and many slaves then he does put up a good argument, I think.

Anyway, to be honest I believe that Rev. Wright is better than that guy. I would much rather go to Wright's church than Pleger's church.

This post has been edited by Deniz Baykal: 30 May 2008 - 05:32 PM

[Reformentia]

Doitzel, on May 30 2008, 02:57 PM, said:

meanwhile, Obama, an admitted B-student at his prep school -- something nobody I know could afford --

Scholarship.

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But really ... do you think this church is aware that their sermons are video taped?

I've never placed a great deal of confidence in the judgment of religious leaders in general. First impression, he was playing to the crowd for the sake of attention seeking and didn't give a second thought to how anything he was saying would be taken or used outside that setting.

In short, he's an idiot. There are lots of those around in my experience.

[SpoiL]

I must say..Im more shocked that he is a catholic.

[Arcturus Jefferson]

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I must say..Im more shocked that he is a catholic.

Yeah, he's pretty energetic.

[Dennis Von Bremen]

SpoiL, on May 30 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

I must say..Im more shocked that he is a catholic.

And that he is a German-American. Who would have thought a German-American Catholic Priest would be like that?

[Vaal Satori]

What did this get, like a couple segments on the news before everyone forgot about it? And not much interest amongst CNers. I guess it only causes a controversy if a black guy says things like that.

[Lord GVChamp]

Vaal Satori, on May 31 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

What did this get, like a couple segments on the news before everyone forgot about it? And not much interest amongst CNers. I guess it only causes a controversy if a black guy says things like that.

I guess, but I didn't really care much about it when it is was the black guy saying it either

[Elyat]

Vaal Satori, on May 31 2008, 07:54 PM, said:

What did this get, like a couple segments on the news before everyone forgot about it? And not much interest amongst CNers. I guess it only causes a controversy if a black guy says things like that.

It's divisive hate speech when a black guy says it. It's multiculturalism when a white guy does.

[Vaal Satori]

And Obama has left his church.

It should have happened years ago, but I'm glad he finally did this. Those guys are nothing but bad news.

[Arcturus Jefferson]

So Obama really is about change, at least in public.

[Kenadian_2006]

A. That guy is just as delusional as the crowd he was preaching to. B. He had an annoying voice.

[Dennis Von Bremen]

Vaal Satori, on May 31 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

What did this get, like a couple segments on the news before everyone forgot about it? And not much interest amongst CNers. I guess it only causes a controversy if a black guy says things like that.

Yep. That's how it works.

Kenadian_2006, on May 31 2008, 09:34 PM, said:

A. That guy is just as delusional as the crowd he was preaching to. B. He had an annoying voice.

I think he is trying to sound more like Black Preachers.

This post has been edited by Deniz Baykal: 31 May 2008 - 11:43 PM

[Rebel Virginia]

Doitzel, on May 30 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

But really ... do you think this church is aware that their sermons are video taped?

Now who do you suppose the church would like to see all that "white entitlement" thrown away to?

[Opethian]

You'll never see Doitzel playing the angry white male unless it involves defaming Obama.