[sayton]

I just wanted to say thank you admin for doing an excellent job well done...

Exactly wht i was thinking... very well done.. :-D

[Viluin]

Nations with 20 nukes now get 4k NS from them.. It's going to make it considerably harder for smaller nations to get into the top 5%, especially because a large standing military doesn't have a large impact anymore. These 2 changes combined were a bit much imo, just the second was needed.

This post has been edited by Viluin: 15 April 2008 - 09:28 AM

[Weiss von Toten]

What exactly was changed? All I know is that I went down in NS

[sayton]

i stayed the exact same NS pretty much.. considering i had no military.. lol..

hold on.. ill get the info

Land Purchased * 1.5 + Tanks Deployed * .015 + Tanks Defending * .020 + Cruise Missiles * 10 + ((Nuclear Purchased^2)*10) + Technology Purchased * 5 + Infrastructure Purchased * 3 + Actual Military * .02 + Aircraft Rating Totals * 5

The previous nation strength calculation before 4/15/2008 was:

Land Purchased * 1.5 + Tanks Deployed * .75 + Tanks Defending * 1 + Cruise Missiles * 1.5 + Nuclear Purchased * 50 + Technology Purchased * 5 + Infrastructure Purchased * 3 + Actual Military * .10 + Aircraft Rating Totals * 5

[sayton]

Viluin, on Apr 15 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

Nations with 20 nukes now get 4k NS from them.. It's going to make it considerably harder for smaller nations to get into the top 5%, especially because a large standing military doesn't have a large impact anymore. These 2 changes combined were a bit much imo, just the second was needed.

the first part i guess didnt really effect me just because ive had my nukes for the pased 1.5 years.. lol.. i just never noticed the strengths from nukes to begin with..

as for the military.. that was PERFECT move.. i loved it.. lol :-D

now. .form 10,000 Tanks instead of 10,000NS you get.. 200 NS which is perfect :-D

[The fox]

I can't quite agree with everyone saying this is something good. Once I get rid of my military I will be back in the range I was in when I was about 10-20 days old. Rather an big annoyance if I can say so.

[admin]

Viluin, on Apr 15 2008, 10:46 AM, said:

Nations with 20 nukes now get 4k NS from them.. It's going to make it considerably harder for smaller nations to get into the top 5%, especially because a large standing military doesn't have a large impact anymore. These 2 changes combined were a bit much imo, just the second was needed.

The new calculation allows nations to grow into the top 5% instead of having to militarize into it. Also, don't forget the Manhattan Project wonder.

[Terra Extraneus]

I went up in strength since I had not a lot of military.

Edit: Good thing I was able to militarize before this happened.

This post has been edited by Ivan The Infidel: 15 April 2008 - 09:42 AM

[sayton]

I think with the change in tank calculations for NS.. more nations will be decommissioning because almost always nations kept them for the NS boost and it was worth the upkeep.. and now.. the upkeep is definitely not worth the 200 NS from them, thats why its pointless to keep. It will keep the cyber world more into true NS rather then military :-D

and yes.. i grew up 200NS myself, and shot up about 9 spots :-D i only had 40,000 soldiers and no tanks as opposed to like peoples 140,000 soldiers and 14000 Tanks.. ;-D MUAHAHA

[Terra Extraneus]

sayton, on Apr 15 2008, 09:03 AM, said:

I think with the change in tank calculations for NS.. more nations will be decommissioning because almost always nations kept them for the NS boost and it was worth the upkeep.. and now.. the upkeep is definitely not worth the 200 NS from them, thats why its pointless to keep. It will keep the cyber world more into true NS rather then military :-D

and yes.. i grew up 200NS myself, and shot up about 9 spots :-D i only had 40,000 soldiers and no tanks as opposed to like peoples 140,000 soldiers and 14000 Tanks.. ;-D MUAHAHA

I think i went up a whole percent. :jihad:

[jonnygozy]

I dropped 4k NS from my soldiers, but gained 3k from my 20 nukes, so it didn't hurt me too much. I also have no tanks.

This post has been edited by jonnygozy: 15 April 2008 - 10:21 AM

[hornguard]

I didn't change much since I don't keep tanks on hand. I'm still not sure how this will play out, though.

[sayton]

Haha... yea thats alot.. i dont think i dont think i can grow from 0.0% :-D lol... soo yea...

[Jack Grist]

Nuclear Weapons now seem impossible to reach for nations my size. It seems everytime i get stronger, i dont get the bomb becuase my NS keeps going down becuase of changes.

[Weiss von Toten]

From the looks of it the CM value is a little high. Maybe it's just me.

[DougZ37]

I think this is a MUCH better indicator of the true strength of a nation. For example - my nation was at about the top 3.5% for infrastructure (7500) and top 4.5% for technology (1500) with 20 nukes but under the old system I was at about 6% because I was demilitarized, whereas I would be at around 2% when militarized. now i'm at a more reasonable demonstration of my true strength, rather than being muscled down because someone decided to build a ton of tanks. That also means that only the 5% of truly large nations can get nukes, where as before if you were in the top 10% you could militarize up vastly expanding the ranks of nuclear nations, further diluting the importance of nukes...

I approve

[Trinite]

I like the decreased emphasis on military, but the tank decrease was a bit extreme.

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Tanks Deployed * .015 + Tanks Defending * .020 ... Actual Military * .02

I think that's a little ridiculous given the relative power of tanks. At any rate I think it's better. Simply buying your military doesn't make you a stronger nation, and this reflects that .

[(DAC)Syzygy]

very nice change. 4k NS for 20nukes is not too much of a boost, if you consider that non-nuclear nations earn around 1M more clear profit per day when using the same setup as a nuclear armed nation, so they can outgrow that difference by just investing more cash into their nation over time.

finally the NS inflation via soldiers/tanks is gone.

[Boondock]

I lost 7k NS due to this change. But it doesn't matter. This stops the days of having to declare on nations before you buy mil, etc.

[Litha Riddle]

Jack Grist, on Apr 15 2008, 05:12 PM, said:

Nuclear Weapons now seem impossible to reach for nations my size. It seems everytime i get stronger, i dont get the bomb becuase my NS keeps going down becuase of changes.

Same here, and it's just my personal opinion but I have to say, I think this is the worst update ever. You might as well scrap the war memorial since you have effectively made soldiers worthless.