[AlexLenin]

ok so Im looking through the forums today and i noticed in Saniels signature tha there were peple who played CN that were RL murderers. Is there a story behind that ? Sorry but im curious andi dont wanna overstep ay boundaries or step on toes. No disrespect meant.

[Opethian]

I believe there were some shady characters in NoR who were genuine neo-nazis.

[AlexLenin]

Well that aside im talking about or around GW4 timeslot...

[Smallfrog]

30 thousand players.

Majority from US

0.042802 per thousand murders in the US


If we assume that 1/2 of murders are 1 time offenders, there should be about 6 murderers playing CN

Of course, that doesn't take into account the social conditions of most players. But I would expect 1 or 2 murderers in CN.

[King C]

you and your "logic" smallfrog

[tohon]

Just remember, I'll take pleasure in gutting you, boy.

[Jormungand]

Smallfrog, on Jan 20 2008, 09:09 PM, said:

30 thousand players.

Majority from US

0.042802 per thousand murders in the US


If we assume that 1/2 of murders are 1 time offenders, there should be about 6 murderers playing CN

Of course, that doesn't take into account the social conditions of most players. But I would expect 1 or 2 murderers in CN.

My school has about 1500 people. About 1/3 of them should be of Indian or Chinese ethnicity.

[Smallfrog]

Jormungand, on Jan 20 2008, 09:16 PM, said:

My school has about 1500 people. About 1/3 of them should be of Indian or Chinese ethnicity.

I factored that in didn't I by reducing the percentage by about 85%

And I considered what the statistics should be showing.

[Jormungand]

Smallfrog, on Jan 20 2008, 09:18 PM, said:

I factored that in didn't I by reducing the percentage by about 85%

And I considered what the statistics should be showing.

I know, I just think saying that not taking into account likely membership of groups is not something that should be shrugged off lightly.

[AlexLenin]

Well statistics aside were there any players that murdered, got prosecuted and are in jail and have had their stories told ? Or were the the people that got murdered?

[Vladimir]

It's Saniel mistaking the entire argument regarding OOC/IC and proving that his side didn't bring OOC in game by bringing OOC in game via his signature.

[Esau of Isaac]

Vladimir, on Jan 20 2008, 01:25 PM, said:

It's Saniel mistaking the entire argument regarding OOC/IC and proving that his side didn't bring OOC in game by bringing OOC in game via his signature.

To be fair, it's the signature. It's usually filled with silly quotes from CN members, philosophers, or revolutionaries.

It's hard for a signature to not be OOC.

[AlexLenin]

Ok so were there murders or not ?

[Jormungand]

Esau of Isaac, on Jan 20 2008, 09:30 PM, said:

To be fair, it's the signature. It's usually filled with silly quotes from CN members, philosophers, or revolutionaries.

It's hard for a signature to not be OOC.

It's not the position of the signature being OOC/IC, but rather the content pointing directly to something to do with the OOC/IC division.

[Vladimir]

Esau of Isaac, on Jan 20 2008, 09:30 PM, said:

To be fair, it's the signature. It's usually filled with silly quotes from CN members, philosophers, or revolutionaries.

It's hard for a signature to not be OOC.

However, if you read the signature you will see the context the claim is in.

"Number of people that have committed real life murders in GOONS: 0
Number of people that have committed real life murders on "the other side" of GW4: 2

Who are the masters of OOC attacks again?"

Surely you recognise the irony in this. He suggests that the 'other side' are the "masters of OOC attacks" using proof that is itself an OOC attack. The point of the OOC/IC argument was never that people should be perfect in their real lives, but that people shouldn't be bringing real life matters into the game.

[Esau of Isaac]

Vladimir, on Jan 20 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

However, if you read the signature you will see the context the claim is in.

"Number of people that have committed real life murders in GOONS: 0
Number of people that have committed real life murders on "the other side" of GW4: 2

Who are the masters of OOC attacks again?"

Surely you recognise the irony in this. He suggests that the 'other side' are the "masters of OOC attacks" using proof that is itself an OOC attack. The point of the OOC/IC argument was never that people should be perfect in their real lives, but that people shouldn't be bringing real life matters into the game.

Fair enough, I see your point.

[Smallfrog]

AlexLenin, on Jan 20 2008, 09:23 PM, said:

Well statistics aside were there any players that murdered, got prosecuted and are in jail and have had their stories told ? Or were the the people that got murdered?

Someone admitted having caused the death of someone.

I won't say who though.

[Kenadian_2006]

Smallfrog, on Jan 20 2008, 04:43 PM, said:

Someone admitted having caused the death of someone.

I won't say who though.

Jagged Fal, he posted the story once anyways. He didn't really cause the person to get killed, seeing as he wasn't driving the car.

[Jiminy Cricket]

This is possibly the most twisted thread I have ever seen.


Also, I know (I hope) that you were playing around, tohon, but comments like that are not exactly kosher.