For Real DoW, I Checked

[Auctor]

Unlike you guys I've always fought and never use peace mode, I couldn't give a !@#$ about my statistics, knocking me down lower benefits me far more than my opponents.
 
I could understand this type of argument against most people, but I've never pretended to want to build my nation the same way as everyone else, I only have 2200 tech thanks to the tech requirement for a WRC, and against AB and GLoF this just means I fight two rounds in the middle tier and wreck havoc in the low tiers, who needs a warchest when I have my opponents as ATMs?

But using advantages over your opponents to inflict more damage is immoral!

[Ogaden]

But using advantages over your opponents to inflict more damage is immoral!

 

I must be immoral then I plowed into some pretty soft AB nations

[Penedono]

Ugh, iits actually kind of gross that this is the thing people are seizing upon,. I miss wars that had actual controversy.

 

If down-declaring is truly an issue, RIA is welcome to invite friends. As is, we're holding back, limiting oursleves to a target list of those RIA nations who have directly attacked our allies in Aurora Borealis.

 

 

 

Fixed it, even though it really didn't need to be done.

[Schad]

 

I must be immoral then I plowed into some pretty soft AB nations

 

Basically Satan, tbh. 

[Mogar]

Ugh, iits actually kind of gross that this is the thing people are seizing upon,. I miss wars that had actual controversy.

 

 

Fixed it, even though it really didn't need to be done.

Maybe you should have actually started a real war then, and not a bullshit one?

 

But using advantages over your opponents to inflict more damage is immoral!

I prefer low tier warfare, far more enjoyable than "you got nuked once, that's 2 months of effort gone." and losing months of progress just because some other alliance decided to sit out several wars and grew beyond the majority of the world, of course you enjoy war in the upper tiers because you're on the winning side, so 3v1 downdeclaring on some poor sap is super fun and definitely an indicator of your warfare skill.

[Scorn]

 

I am here to inform the members and affiliates of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons that you are hereby under a declaration of war from Delusions of Grandeur. You attacked my protectorate and this is one of the consequences. One of the easy to predict consequences, so I thank you for not pulling a pre-emptive strike.

 

Apologies to the Random Insanity Alliance for the delay in action. I will strive to do better in the future.

[Ogaden]

Thanks for the help Scorn :)

[TBRaiders]

Unlike you guys I've always fought and never use peace mode, I couldn't give a !@#$ about my statistics, knocking me down lower benefits me far more than my opponents.

 

I could understand this type of argument against most people, but I've never pretended to want to build my nation the same way as everyone else, I only have 2200 tech thanks to the tech requirement for a WRC, and against AB and GLoF this just means I fight two rounds in the middle tier and wreck havoc in the low tiers, who needs a warchest when I have my opponents as ATMs?

Unlike you I have 20+ million casualties, but I got them all in peace mode and avoiding wars so I guess you are right.

 

If I was terrible at this stuff, I might have tried being a low tier griefer too.  Doubtful, because I like to do my best at whatever I do, but maybe in an alternate universe?

[ShadowDragon]

o/ Delusions of Grandeur

You are a great protector and it is a pleasure to fight alongside you once again on the battlefield.

[shahenshah]

I prefer low tier warfare, far more enjoyable than "you got nuked once, that's 2 months of effort gone."....

Basically the thing is..,nobody gives a shit about your preferences.

[Mogar]

Unlike you I have 20+ million casualties, but I got them all in peace mode and avoiding wars so I guess you are right.

 

If I was terrible at this stuff, I might have tried being a low tier griefer too.  Doubtful, because I like to do my best at whatever I do, but maybe in an alternate universe?

Yeah, i hear declaring on nations that are 1/3rd of your NS or less and tech raiding them constantly is a really hard way to gather casualties. 

 

your nation also has an additional three years existence over mine, if you really think that declaring war on significantly weaker nations makes you somehow good at the war, I mean more power to you I guess. I prefer my conflicts to be a bit more equal.

 

 

Basically the thing is..,nobody gives a !@#$ about your preferences.

Tell me more about how AZTEC's feet taste, better than TOPs?

Edited December 6, 2014 by Mogar

[WorldConqueror]

I prefer my conflicts to be a bit more equal.

Yes, all those wonders sure do even things up in the anklebiter tier!

[Mogar]

Yes, all those wonders sure do even things up in the anklebiter tier!

Except in wartimes everyone else is down there too, and I regularly declare 3 offensive wars, along with multiple defensive wars, 1v5/6 is a bit different than 3v1.

[WorldConqueror]

Your justifications do nothing to assuage your hypocrisy.

[Auctor]

Fights are fair fights when I do them and massively unfair fights when someone else does them.

[Mogar]

I'd love to hear your explanation as to how my wonders give me an advantage over at minimum two other similarly wondered nations, as well as nations with higher tech and infra values than myself.

 

Fights are fair fights when I do them and massively unfair fights when someone else does them.

 

Fights are far when you intentionally put yourself into a harder conflict, as opposed to taking the easy victories and patting yourselves on the back while others are doing the real fighting.

Edited December 6, 2014 by Mogar

[WorldConqueror]

I'd love to hear your explanation as to how my wonders give me an advantage over at minimum two other similarly wondered nations, as well as nations with higher tech and infra values than myself.
 
 
Fights are far when you intentionally put yourself into a harder conflict, as opposed to taking the easy victories and patting yourselves on the back while others are doing the real fighting.

OK, you fight only nations with the same wonders as you and we'll see how you go, if that's how you're going to qualify it.

As for your second line, you mean like intentionally staying small to beat up on new nations rather than doing the real fighting in the top tier???

[Auctor]

Joke's on you, I'm a bona fide real life curbstomp superhero IN THE FLESH!

[Mogar]

OK, you fight only nations with the same wonders as you and we'll see how you go, if that's how you're going to qualify it.

As for your second line, you mean like intentionally staying small to beat up on new nations rather than doing the real fighting in the top tier???

I make sure whomever I declare on in the lower tiers has an MP, I would much rather those nukes bounce off my SDI than someone without one, if I had wanted to declare on only soft targets last war I would have had triple the damage output.

 

the real fighting isn't in the top tier, just the gangbang tier, you either get gangbanged or are doing the gangbanging, since nobody in this world has the balls to declare war if there's a chance they might lose.

[Lysistrata]

Except in wartimes everyone else is down there too, and I regularly declare 3 offensive wars, along with multiple defensive wars, 1v5/6 is a bit different than 3v1.

I get it... you're a big foot chasing down an ant trail. A big foot can crush 5 or 6 ants at the same time, no problem.

Much better than trying to step on another foot. You might say that DBDC does exactly what you do... just not on the new guys.

[Mogar]

I get it... you're a big foot chasing down an ant trail. A big foot can crush 5 or 6 ants at the same time, no problem.

Much better than trying to step on another foot. You might say that DBDC does exactly what you do... just not on the new guys.

Except during a war there's plenty of other nations with pentagons, MPs and SDIs, and I have no issues fighting as many of them as possible.

 

 

Number of Soldiers Lost: 260,878 Attacking + 439,878 Defending = 700,756 Casualties

Not that I expect you to even know what it's like to fight 1v3 or 1v6.

[Lysistrata]

Yes, I see what you mean. I consider myself lucky to get through the lower tiers without running into your foot.

Now see if you can do the same and get to the upper tiers without running into mine.

[Great Lord Moth]

I like this. It's fun. This guy gets it. :)

Well shucks, I'm still arguing about the war like everyone else. :D 

 

I'm legitimately curious as to why GLOF cares that we're attacking DBDC, though. There's only one possible reason that makes sense to me, and if it is the case then I might have to have an opinion on GLOF post-war.

[Mogar]

Yes, I see what you mean. I consider myself lucky to get through the lower tiers without running into your foot.

Now see if you can do the same and get to the upper tiers without running into mine.

yes, you were lucky to have collected statistics for 5 years, I'd rather use mine than sit out war for a few years to get up to that size.  :war:

[BrJLa]

Man, it's seriously not that hard to have a favorable damage ratio.  Be motivated to be on at update.  Check in multiple times a day.  Be a little clever.  Managing your deployments helps.  That's it.

 

Most rulers are not that motivated to be good at war.  Running around punching people who don't care as much isn't that impressive.