Mogar Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't go to IRC anymore, there are people there just like you. I try to avoid people like that. I went to them and started a conversation, I made an effort. Certainly SUN was cordial but they decided to issue another DOW so the message came through loud and clear. Your claims about SUN are laughable Mogar but, you believe what you want. They made a clear choice as far as I am concerned now they have to live with it. Good luck and may you continue to find enjoyment in the CN game. There's nobody else on IRC like me, but believe what you wish. Nobody does ceasefires anymore, nor has anyone for nearly 6 years, if you wanted peace you'd continue the conversation. My claims come from speaking to their gov on a regular basis, something you generally do with both allies and enemies. You made the clear choice by declaring upon SUN, you have to live with the fact 3% is going to continue to lose members until there's nothing left, instead of simply agreeing to the generous offer of peace and had kept the multiple nations who went elsewhere due to this charge into the abyss you guys want to make. I don't need luck, but appreciated anyway, I believe I have more enjoyment out of our world than just about anyone else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen Dorbek Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 The alliances of the State of Unified Nations and the III Percent hereby agree to the following terms: Both alliances offer and accept White Peace. Both alliances promise to not re-enter the current conflict by declaring any wars, conducting any spy operations or transmitting any Foreign Aid to any nation or any alliance currently involved in the conflict, either directly or indirectly. This clause does not include the current on-going war between the State of Unified Nations and the Global Alliance and Treaty Organization. Any previously-accepted agreements between individual members or former members of III Percent are not affected or modified by this agreement. Both alliances agree to exclude any and all publicly-recognized mercenaries, rogues or other nations using their Alliance Affiliation, who were not in the Alliance at the time of the Declaration of War, and to continue to work together to resolve any issue arising from nations who refuse to abide by the terms of this agreement. Neither alliance asks for reparations, disarmament, or any other remedy to achieve peace between the alliances and affirms to work in good-faith towards enforcement of the above terms. Signed for the State of Unified Nations: Fen Dorbek, Emperor Joint Leaders, III Percent. Esoteric Lightning Jack Crask Mann As requested and authorized by. Gretchen DOFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen Dorbek Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I would like to personally extend my thanks to Gretchen for being a good representative of her alliance and someone with whom we could have civil discourse and achieve a meaningful progress and finally this breakthrough agreement. SUN honors the fact that we share with III Percent the value of fighting bravely for our allies. Best of luck to III Percent moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Much respect for Crask and Esoteric doing what is in their alliance's best interest, happy rebuilding. I found myself a new toy to play with anyway! Edited December 16, 2013 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relapse Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 o/ sun o/ 3 percent its been fun fighting you :) lessons learned on both sides of the ball. Have fun and happy hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre4mwe4ver Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Thank you, III%, you are one of the best allies anyone could ask for, it's good to see this end with true white peace.o/ III%Much respect to SUN, we'll see you on the battlefield.o7 SUN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotty Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Congrats on the white peace peeps. :) SUN <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killjoy123 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 The hell is this. After everything im still confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgrum Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 There's nobody else on IRC like me, but believe what you wish. Nobody does ceasefires anymore, nor has anyone for nearly 6 years, if you wanted peace you'd continue the conversation. My claims come from speaking to their gov on a regular basis, something you generally do with both allies and enemies. You made the clear choice by declaring upon SUN, you have to live with the fact 3% is going to continue to lose members until there's nothing left, instead of simply agreeing to the generous offer of peace and had kept the multiple nations who went elsewhere due to this charge into the abyss you guys want to make. I don't need luck, but appreciated anyway, I believe I have more enjoyment out of our world than just about anyone else does. The deal was in the works Mogar, my threats helped the process along. You aren't as dialed in as you like to proclaim but im not going to rain on your parade to much this game is important to you. The sad part for me is I went to 3% to fight for friends, some of which negotiated a peace deal with SUN that included a specific exclusion pertaining to me. In that time frame I was discussing a deal with SUN, talk about bad faith, lol but you go on ahead and portray them anyway you like. The fact they needed the leverage of an invicta DOW and counter on a 16 man alliance is pretty sad but you use what leverage you can. In the end the only surprise here for me was how 3% treated me, SUN fought the war well they did what they had to do on all fronts I don't fault them for that. 3% left me out to hang, which is understandable, that's the lot of a proclaimed mercenary. Never trust anyone in this game, ever. In terms of SUN it would appear based on the merc exclusion, your new dow (during a two front peace talk) and the stringing me along on your forums after I came to you to talk about an out, that you believe I am willing to expend the nation and delete. You would be correct on that, but when you have mouth pieces like mogar singing your praises remember, now and in the future your true character will come out. It always catches up to alliances in the end, no one escapes it. As for 3%, shitty deal folks. Next time your getting rolled and your top nation bails, if im still around to see it I'll be passing out matches and watching you burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 The deal was in the works Mogar, my threats helped the process along. You aren't as dialed in as you like to proclaim but im not going to rain on your parade to much this game is important to you. The sad part for me is I went to 3% to fight for friends, some of which negotiated a peace deal with SUN that included a specific exclusion pertaining to me. In that time frame I was discussing a deal with SUN, talk about bad faith, lol but you go on ahead and portray them anyway you like. The fact they needed the leverage of an invicta DOW and counter on a 16 man alliance is pretty sad but you use what leverage you can. In the end the only surprise here for me was how 3% treated me, SUN fought the war well they did what they had to do on all fronts I don't fault them for that. 3% left me out to hang, which is understandable, that's the lot of a proclaimed mercenary. Never trust anyone in this game, ever. In terms of SUN it would appear based on the merc exclusion, your new dow (during a two front peace talk) and the stringing me along on your forums after I came to you to talk about an out, that you believe I am willing to expend the nation and delete. You would be correct on that, but when you have mouth pieces like mogar singing your praises remember, now and in the future your true character will come out. It always catches up to alliances in the end, no one escapes it. As for 3%, !@#$%* deal folks. Next time your getting rolled and your top nation bails, if im still around to see it I'll be passing out matches and watching you burn. Your threats may have helped the process along but your alliance couping the person everyone saw as the only real leader certainly made things far more difficult, if you wish to get peace I have no issues assisting you in achieving that goal. you have to acknowledge that tierwise SUN and 3% are two entirely different alliances, SUN has mostly mid and lower tier nations where 3% had a significantly higher average NS until a week ago. I'm somewhat surprised that 3% left you out to dry as well, but that's the life of independence in this world, I've learned not to trust anyone long ago, I am sorry you are only just learning this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgrum Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Your threats may have helped the process along but your alliance couping the person everyone saw as the only real leader certainly made things far more difficult, if you wish to get peace I have no issues assisting you in achieving that goal. you have to acknowledge that tierwise SUN and 3% are two entirely different alliances, SUN has mostly mid and lower tier nations where 3% had a significantly higher average NS until a week ago. I'm somewhat surprised that 3% left you out to dry as well, but that's the life of independence in this world, I've learned not to trust anyone long ago, I am sorry you are only just learning this. I achieved what I set out to do, help friends fight an unwinnable battle and get them peace. The fact they screwed me in the process is mostly my fault. The threat was a viable means to achieving an end, In the process SUN had the option to deal with me. Again I went to them to get friends of mine peace. SUN chose to string it along and well they had one up on me as I didn't know my pals in 3% were making a deal with a clause specific to me that ensures my demise. I mean I can live with the sentence, ive had 3 ZI sentences before but as I said I considered some of these people friends and the others on 3% I believed it when they said they would go to the end. I learned not to trust anyone mogar, however I did expect more from 3%. This isn't the first time Ive shed pixels for them (GO vs Brain) its sure as hell is going to be the last. Anyway its been entertaining the back and forth, thanks for that. Again, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I've spoken with SUN, you can continue to speak to them about achieving peace, because you reached out to them separately they figured you wanted to be treated separately, good luck on achieving peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Your complaining you're not getting as clean of a getaway as you were expect after dragging so many nations into a war with no real purpose? You bonzai charged another coalition into a bunch of other alliances, you should be the last the peace if you had any dignity or cared enough to pretend you honor all the hopes people entrust you with when they blindly follow you into wars like these. This war has been one of the least interesting wars, with no real sides, just a bunch off alliances hitting each other because they have nothing better to do. Edited December 17, 2013 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgrum Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Your complaining you're not getting as clean of a getaway as you were expect after dragging so many nations into a war with no real purpose? You bonzai charged another coalition into a bunch of other alliances, you should be the last the peace if you had any dignity or cared enough to pretend you honor all the hopes people entrust you with when they blindly follow you into wars like these. This war has been one of the least interesting wars, with no real sides, just a bunch off alliances hitting each other because they have nothing better to do. This is like the citadel days all over again, you didn't know what the hell you were talking about then and you don't know what the hell your talking about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dakota Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 See Mogar? Not that hard to see we can figure out things on our own without your help. Dre4mwe4ver: Thank you and all of GATO for being the lovely folks you are. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 See Mogar? Not that hard to see we can figure out things on our own without your help. Dre4mwe4ver: Thank you and all of GATO for being the lovely folks you are. <3 yeah that extra few weeks of war really made sense for you guys to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xR1 Fatal Instinct Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Reps for 3% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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