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#1 User is offline   HappyHappyLand 

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:32 PM

One day I got to thinking about colors (I was really bored...) and I thought of something. Does each color look different to each person? Such as, my brown could be your red. My red could be someone's blue. If someone asks you describe green, you'd probably say something like "It's the color of grass" or "It's a mix of blue and green". But you can't actually describe the color.
Well, here's the part where I get trolled by some expert on vision, "The Obutocobular Sensor is the same in every human being, therefore vision for everyone is the same, blah blah blah, troll troll troll."

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:40 PM

This tulip is red.
This tulip is blue.
This tulip is white.

Anybody disagree?

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:41 PM

I believe that I addressed that.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:41 PM

His point was that your red, although that red always looks the same to you, looks different from the red that he sees.

Edit: Happyhappyland beat me to it.

I have wondered this before, but there is really no way to prove or disprove it.

This post has been edited by lord Isaac: 03 January 2008 - 02:42 PM


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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:44 PM

View PostHappyHappyLand, on Jan 3 2008, 03:46 PM, said:

I believe that I addressed that.

That the name of each colour is decided by consensus? No, you didn't. Anyway, colour is determined entirely by the wavelengths of the light reflected by an object. Generally, yes, we all see colours very similarly (with the obvious latitude of people with deformed/different shaped ocular organs).

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:45 PM

View PostDoitzel, on Jan 3 2008, 12:45 PM, said:


We are simply taught those terms. What I see as red, and call red, could easily be pink to another person. Wonder why some cultures have brighter/dimmer colors? Because their eyes are slightly different and find those colors more "pleaseing"

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:49 PM

View PostHappyHappyLand, on Jan 3 2008, 12:37 PM, said:

Does each color look different to each person?


If they are partially colorblind yes, if they have normal vision no.

View PostBaronUberstein, on Jan 3 2008, 12:50 PM, said:

What I see as red, and call red, could easily be pink to another person.


It depends on where you put the line between red and pink. It's still the same color, you're just defining "red" and "pink" differently.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:54 PM

View PostBaronUberstein, on Jan 3 2008, 03:50 PM, said:

We are simply taught those terms. What I see as red, and call red, could easily be pink to another person. Wonder why some cultures have brighter/dimmer colors? Because their eyes are slightly different and find those colors more "pleaseing"

You're jumping from biological to cultural there. Generally cultures developed different colours based on natural resources available to them in the early stages of their civilisation before inducting them into tradition. Our vision of colour is based on our colour receptor nerves which are each sensitive to different parts of the spectrum of colours (of visible light).

While some cultures may experience colours differently - that is, they may symbolise different things and affect their psyche in one way or another - we all see colour in the same general way. There's a bit of variation in humans as to the maximum/minimum wavelengths we can observe, if I remember correctly.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:58 PM

View PostDoitzel, on Jan 3 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

You're jumping from biological to cultural there. Generally cultures developed different colours based on natural resources available to them in the early stages of their civilisation before inducting them into tradition. Our vision of colour is based on our colour receptor nerves which are each sensitive to different parts of the spectrum of colours (of visible light).

While some cultures may experience colours differently - that is, they may symbolise different things and affect their psyche in one way or another - we all see colour in the same general way. There's a bit of variation in humans as to the maximum/minimum wavelengths we can observe, if I remember correctly.

Hmm, good point. Never looked at it that way.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:06 PM

The only variation really occurs in where an individual's vision goes off each end of the spectrum into infra-red and ultra-violet. Each person's vision range is slightly different, which means if you get into an argument about whether those jeans are black or dark blue, it might just be that the color is outside one of your visible spectrums.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:09 PM

I got Doitzel posting in my thread...now I just have to get admin and I have won the forums.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:18 PM

Unless you are colorblind or have some whacko eye disorder then grass is green, the sky is blue, and blood is red.

And I don't think anybody in their right mind would disagree with me.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:19 PM

View PostHappyHappyLand, on Jan 3 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

I got Doitzel posting in my thread...now I just have to get admin and I have won the forums.

How do you know Doitzel ISN'T admin?

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:36 PM

View PostBaronUberstein, on Jan 3 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

How do you know Doitzel ISN'T admin?

Well, not anymore. =P

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 04:58 PM

Has anyone thought of the possibility of a new color?

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 04:59 PM

This has been thought of before, a lot.

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