The Grinch Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Sanction race folks.. While I'm glad this talk isn't, 'TOOL curse, lawl', it's not exactly Sanction race talk. Just be patient, the 15 alliances will split up normally, without anyone having to be guilttripped into not 'ruining the game'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykelemagne Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) Again, I am just stating that I find it weird that so many people can be happy with how stagnant the political aspect of the game has become. YES, they are obviously happy with it as there are 15 large alliances grouped together so closely. It's just not something that appeals to me. If the quote unquote real politics of the game is boring to you, why don't you try your hand in the National & War or News Reports subforum. They all seem to have... fun, in an IC way... I guess. edit: In deference to The Grinch I conclude with a "Lol, TOOL curse" and a " Add line" Edited September 9, 2008 by Mykelemagne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 If the quote unquote real politics of the game is boring to you, why don't you try your hand in the National & War or News Reports subforum. They all seem to have... fun, in an IC way... I guess.edit: In deference to The Grinch I conclude with a "Lol, TOOL curse" and a " Add line" I could do that in the meantime, I appreciate the suggestion. And you're probably right Grinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftj2 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Again, I am just stating that I find it weird that so many people can be happy with how stagnant the political aspect of the game has become. YES, they are obviously happy with it as there are 15 large alliances grouped together so closely. It's just not something that appeals to me. Stagnant politics are a result of stagnant gameplay. The reason all 15 of the top alliances ally to each other is because there is no reason not too. There is no competitive edge to being somebody's enemy in this game. The best way to truly revolutionize the political aspect of the game is to introduce some form of competition. I can give you a dozen ways that this could be done off the top of my head, but there does not seem to be much support for this type of change despite some of the "CN is getting boring" bellyaching that pops up from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) Stagnant politics are a result of stagnant gameplay. The reason all 15 of the top alliances ally to each other is because there is no reason not too. There is no competitive edge to being somebody's enemy in this game. That's exactly what I'm talking about. They're all allied because they don't want to be the ones to go down. So it ends up being a scenario that everyone is afraid to get out of. Maybe it's appealing to some people to be in a giant group like that, but I think for the most part, it's because no-one is willing to do anything about it. I completely understand why too. I mean, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a 14v1 war. And that is my reason for trying not to be a part of it in the first place. And now for a comment on the Sanction Race, given the thread we're in: Anybody think the top 12 will change by the end of September? Edit: By change, I mean, somebody new in the top 12, not a change in order of the top 12 alliances. Edited September 9, 2008 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Perry Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) It is a small possibility, unless another war breaks out or something happens to an alliance internally. TOOL and GPA are next in line for sanction if something was to happen, but CN has been pretty predictable so we'll see. Edit: Drai, you're avatar makes me lol. Edited September 9, 2008 by Lucas Perry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 It is a small possibility, unless another war breaks out or something happens to an alliance internally. TOOL and GPA are next in line for sanction if something was to happen, but CN has been pretty predictable so we'll see.Edit: Drai, you're avatar makes me lol. Haha, thanks LP, that's the reason I picked it (well, it made me lol). I think Echelon could probably get a spot soon too. They're at 180 nations, not a far jump away from 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondock Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Expect an exceptional Gramlins loss today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deth2munkies Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Expect an exceptional Gramlins loss today. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondock Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Why? Leaver Its no big deal, just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilos Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Phoenicia should go up a lil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Caspian Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 And now for a comment on the Sanction Race, given the thread we're in: Anybody think the top 12 will change by the end of September?Edit: By change, I mean, somebody new in the top 12, not a change in order of the top 12 alliances. Hai Drai! also, ifI had to put money on a change, I think I'd say GPA would be the ones to enter the top 12. We'll see though... there aren't many weeks left in Septembter. I think it may take them a little longer than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hai Drai!also, ifI had to put money on a change, I think I'd say GPA would be the ones to enter the top 12. We'll see though... there aren't many weeks left in Septembter. I think it may take them a little longer than that. That's true, they certainly having been proving they can still grow over the past couple months. I wouldn't be surprised to see them back up there soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hai Drai!also, ifI had to put money on a change, I think I'd say GPA would be the ones to enter the top 12. We'll see though... there aren't many weeks left in Septembter. I think it may take them a little longer than that. Definitely wouldn't be September...there's a five point spread between them and TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGarner Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Haha, thanks LP, that's the reason I picked it (well, it made me lol).I think Echelon could probably get a spot soon too. They're at 180 nations, not a far jump away from 200. We are close, I'm not sure if we're all that interested in picking up nations just to get a sanction though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Will expect " TPF and add line" today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sharpe Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Expect an exceptional Gramlins loss today. Not just numerically, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) Not just numerically, either. if you don't mind me asking...who left? Edited September 10, 2008 by Hyperion321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Obama Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Not just numerically, either. TOP is making quite a nice gain. Not only numerically as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hefe Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 We are close, I'm not sure if we're all that interested in picking up nations just to get a sanction though. I think I can say with certainty that we're not. Echelon has always preferred the quality over quantity method, and I don't see us changing that to get a sanction. Besides, there's still 4 score between us and a sanction even if we get the members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 We are close, I'm not sure if we're all that interested in picking up nations just to get a sanction though. Definitely. Although alliances tend to grow in numbers even without deliberate recruitment. I'm sure you'll get the additional 20 members eventually, maybe it won't be over the next few weeks, but likely you will in the near-ish future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinch Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I think I can say with certainty that we're not. Echelon has always preferred the quality over quantity method, and I don't see us changing that to get a sanction. Besides, there's still 4 score between us and a sanction even if we get the members I wouldn't be so sure. Any alliance that starts looking for mergers around your score is obviously going for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binuru Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 My first (and likely only) attempt at an update. Should it be wrong, someone please kindly correct my errors in a subsequent post, as I won't be around to fix anything tonight. September 09, 2008 1 New Pacific Order: 68.62 --> 68.52 (-0.10) 2 Independent Republic of Orange Nations: 60.16 --> 60.37 (+0.21) 3 Multicolored Cross-X Alliance: 44.65 --> 44.76 (+0.11) 4 Mostly Harmless Alliance: 37.03 --> 37.19 (+0.16) 5 Sparta: 36.53 --> 36.33 (-0.20) 6 Ragnarok: 33.44 --> 33.67 (+0.23) 7 Fark: 29.44 --> 29.35 (-0.09) 8 Orange Defense Network: 28.52 --> 28.53 (+0.01) The Order of the Paradox: 27.94 --> 27.95 (+0.01) 9 Viridian Entente: 25.52 --> 25.51 (-0.01) 10 FOK: 24.39 --> 24.50 (+0.11) 11 Grand Global Alliance: 23.44 --> 23.46 (+0.02) 12 The Phoenix Federation: 23.08 --> 23.34 (+0.26) ----------------- The Grämlins: 21.60 --> 21.39 (-0.21) Echelon: 19.32 --> 19.69 (+0.37) 13 The Order of Light: 18.24 --> 18.27 (+0.03) 14 Green Protection Agency: 18.11 --> 18.14 (+0.03) United Purple Nations: 16.36 --> 16.38 (+0.02) The Democratic Order: 16.15 --> 16.30 (+0.15) New Polar Order: 15.15 --> 15.33 (+0.18) Valhalla: 14.87 --> 15.03 (+0.16) Global Radiation Level : 14.72 --> 14.75 (+0.03) Global Democratic Alliance: 14.62 --> 14.62 (+0.00) Monos Archein: 14.14 --> 14.13 (-0.01) NATO: 12.62 --> 12.63 (+0.01) LoSS: 12.53 --> 12.54 (+0.01) Invicta: 11.75 --> 11.79 (+0.04) Random Insanity Alliance: 11.76 --> 11.78 (+0.02) ---------- Add Line: 11.52 --> 11.67 (+0.15) The Legion: 11.57 --> 11.61 (+0.04) RnR 11.27 --> 11.42 (+0.15) Mushroom Kingdom: 11.30 --> 11.38 (+0.08) ---------- Drop Line: 11.22 --> 11.37 (+0.15) World Task Force 11.33 --> 11.35 (+0.02) Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations: 11.29 --> 11.31 (+0.02) North Atlantic Defense Coalition: 11.29 --> 11.27 (-0.02) Biggest Gainer Echelon: (+0.37) Biggest Loser The Grämlins: (-0.21) Passes of the Day Invicta passes Random Insanity Alliance RnR passes North Atlantic Defense Coalition RnR passes World Task Force Mushroom Kingdom passes North Atlantic Defense Coalition Mushroom Kingdom passes World Task Force Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations passes North Atlantic Defense Coalition Commentary In the first signs of stabilization around Planet Bob in weeks, New Polar Order posts it's first gain. Not to be outdone, Mushroom Kingdom also adds a couple more hundredths to their score, and getting two passes in the process (although perilously close to the Drop Line). Speaking of the Drop Line, though, The Phoenix Federation posts yet another large gain, causing us to lose North Atlantic Defense Coalition, Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations, and World Task Force to the Drop Line. Today's special shoutout goes to The Superfriends who are celebrating one their one-year anniversary! ----------------------- Related Links: Stats by Unspeakable Evil Lord Sharpe's MDP Web Vote for Cybernations Daily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Looks like 12th place is looking to get its slimy tentacles on the GGA. Also, watch out MK! *Cues the Jaws music* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Perry Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I expect TPF to pass GGA tomorrow, they have a great pace going. So many alliances being dropped last 2 days. Who will get dropped tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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