AntyCrist Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 [quote name='Cerridwyn' timestamp='1306796568' post='2720872'] Didn’t see this until today, but better late than never. Since the beginning of the Peanut Butter War, the face of the sanction race has changed drastically. And yet it has remained the same. On January 17th, the first ‘official day of the conflict’, the MHA was still the largest alliance on Bob. The sanctioned alliances were (in order), MHA, NPO, GPA, NpO, Fark, Sparta, MK, VE, ODN, Legion, IRON, and GATO. And if you look back on that fateful date, GPA shows an almost 4 point gain to today. The only sanctioned alliance on that date to have a higher score today than it did at the start of the war. Of the sanctioned alliances, MK took the largest drop in the past 4+, dropping from 7th and 205 nations, to 20th and 144. The war has seen the rise of RnR and RIA of the seizure-inducing forum pip. The lower tiers have seen many well known fade from the list including Rok, UPN, and STA. Speaking only of this last day, the only pass was small and at the bottom, however read dominated with losses in the top 4 alliances, with MHA loosing slightly over ¼ of a point to earn the greatest looser slot. Only a handful of alliances showed significant growth with Polaris earning biggest gainer as it’s starts it’s post war rebuilding and gains nearly ¾ of a point. Nordreich, in second, has only about half the gain. We live in interesting times. [/quote] You forgot iron jan 17 Posted Image 12 [334] (-2) Independent Republic of Orange Nations : 32.93 --> 33.03 (+0.10) Today (28th) Posted Image 4 [456] (+0) Independent Republic of Orange Nations : 43.90 --> 44.03 (+0.13) also fark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='AntyCrist' timestamp='1306799708' post='2720894'] You forgot iron jan 17 Posted Image 12 [334] (-2) Independent Republic of Orange Nations : 32.93 --> 33.03 (+0.10) Today (28th) Posted Image 4 [456] (+0) Independent Republic of Orange Nations : 43.90 --> 44.03 (+0.13) also fark [/quote] Fixed, just shows I can't add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Cerridwyn' timestamp='1306796568' post='2720872'] Only a handful of alliances showed significant growth with Polaris earning biggest gainer as it’s starts it’s post war rebuilding and gains nearly ¾ of a point. Nordreich, in second, has only about half the gain. [/quote] We aren't Polaris And MK isn't largest loser. They lost about 21 score, which is in line with the average for the "main" frontline fighters across this war. Finding out who is the largest is a big difficult, given the very different exit dates for everyone, but I think that with around 42 score lost, NPO would probably take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwyn Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) I'll never have to do it again because I type one thing in the draft and another in the real thing. /me grovels and second paragraph is that day only, only the first summarizes the war Edited May 31, 2011 by Cerridwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmia Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Alliance Sanction Race update, Gopher had to go to bed. [center][img]http://forums.cybernations.net/uploads/av-731.gif[/img][/center] [b]May 30, 2011[/b] [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2iik8it.png[/img] 1 [714] [color=red](-3)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/b][/color] : 65.43 --> 65.38 [color=red](-0.05)[/color] [img]http://i52.tinypic.com/wb6q35.png[/img] 2 [251] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=green][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 52.38 --> 52.30 [color=red](-0.08)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/t5gf4j.png[/img] 3 [306] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Fark[/b][/color] : 49.99 --> 49.98 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] [img]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6710/sanctioniron.png[/img] 4 [454] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=orange][b]Independent Republic of Orange Nations[/b][/color] : 43.86 --> 43.95 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/2zi6k1w.png[/img] 5 [338] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=black][b]Sparta[/b][/color] : 43.72 --> 43.79 [color=green](+0.07)[/color] 6 {179} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=blue][i]World Task Force[/i][/color] : 41.77 --> 41.81 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/not5oi.png[/img] 7 [312] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=orange][b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] : 38.71 --> 38.83 [color=green](+0.12)[/color] 8 {97} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Umbrella[/i][/color] : 29.00 --> 29.08 [color=green](+0.08)[/color] 9 {136} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange][i]The Order of the Paradox[/i][/color] : 28.24 --> 28.29 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/1442r0g.png[/img] 10 [323] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 27.61 --> 27.76 [color=green](+0.15)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/34gqzvd.png[/img] 11 [323] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=brown][b]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/b][/color] : 26.20 --> 26.31 [color=green](+0.11)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/8vof2a.png[/img] 12 [271] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=green][b]Viridian Entente[/b][/color] : 26.17 --> 26.23 [color=green](+0.06)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/125m9dw.png[/img] 13 [436] [color=red](-6)[/color] [color=red][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color] : 23.78 --> 24.64 [color=green](+0.86)[/color] [img]http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/DarkLC/RnRFlag.png[/img] 14 [285] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=orange][b]RnR[/b][/color] : 24.32 --> 24.39 [color=green](+0.07)[/color] 15 {139} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]The Democratic Order[/i][/color] : 23.93 --> 23.96 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] 16 {150} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange][i]FOK[/i][/color] : 22.76 --> 22.81 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] [img]http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee185/Master_Rex/Cool/RIA/ingame/RIAASR.png[/img] 17 [218] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=maroon][b]Random Insanity Alliance[/b][/color] : 22.09 --> 22.06 [color=red](-0.03)[/color] --------------- 18 {165} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=gray][i]Nusantara Elite Warriors[/i][/color] : 20.30 --> 20.25 [color=red](-0.05)[/color] 19 {165} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=black][i]Nordreich[/i][/color] : 20.01 --> 20.12 [color=green](+0.11)[/color] 20 {145} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]Mushroom Kingdom[/i][/color] : 19.11 --> 19.33 [color=green](+0.22)[/color] 21 [318] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=black]LoSS[/color] : 19.09 --> 19.09 [color=black](+0.00)[/color] 22 [211] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=purple]The Legion[/color] : 18.83 --> 19.08 [color=green](+0.25)[/color] 23 {118} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=purple][i]Valhalla[/i][/color] : 17.77 --> 17.75 [color=red](-0.02)[/color] 24 {145} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=blue][i]Multicolored Cross-X Alliance[/i][/color] : 16.51 --> 16.53 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] 25 {141} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=blue][i]NATO[/i][/color] : 16.33 --> 16.52 [color=green](+0.19)[/color] 26 {85} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=blue][i]Nueva Vida[/i][/color] : 16.27 --> 16.01 [color=red](-0.26)[/color] 27 {102} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=maroon][i]Global Order of Darkness[/i][/color] : 15.64 --> 15.67 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] 28 {119} [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=blue][i]The Foreign Division[/i][/color] : 15.43 --> 15.14 [color=red](-0.29)[/color] 29 {169} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=gold][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] : 14.96 --> 14.83 [color=red](-0.13)[/color] 30 {118} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange][i]The Grand Lodge of Freemasons[/i][/color] : 14.43 --> 14.41 [color=red](-0.02)[/color] 31 {116} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=maroon][i]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] : 13.74 --> 13.79 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] 32 {158} [color=green](+4)[/color] [color=purple][i]iFOK[/i][/color] : 13.64 --> 13.74 [color=green](+0.10)[/color] 33 {127} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=maroon][i]The Templar Knights[/i][/color] : 13.51 --> 13.52 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] 34 {104} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=green][i]Legacy[/i][/color] : 12.76 --> 12.74 [color=red](-0.02)[/color] 35 {51} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Asgaard[/i][/color] : 12.62 --> 12.63 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] 36 {90} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]Athens[/i][/color] : 12.55 --> 12.57 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] 37 {84} [color=red](-9)[/color] [s][color=gray][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color][/s] : 12.81 --> 10.87 [color=red](-1.94)[/color] [b]Biggest Gainer[/b] [color=red][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color] [color=green](+0.86)[/color] [b]Biggest Loser[/b] [color=gray][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] [color=red](-1.94)[/color] [b]Passes of the Day[/b] [color=red]New Pacific Order[/color] passes [color=orange]RnR[/color] [color=red]New Pacific Order[/color] passes [color=#48D1CC]The Democratic Order[/color] [color=green]Legacy[/color] passes [color=gray]The Order Of Light[/color] [color=black]Asgaard[/color] passes [color=gray]The Order Of Light[/color] [color=#48D1CC]Athens[/color] passes [color=gray]The Order Of Light[/color] [b]Commentary[/b] Today marks a great loss for the Cybernations community. For over three and a half years - longer than this thread has been operational - Unspeakable Evil has diligently been keeping track of virtually every type of stat you could think of; often with little to no praise from the community at large. His steadfast work has resulted in the most complete historical records of Cybernations to date - far greater than anything this thread could ever manage. Today, Unspeakable Evil [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=299&view=findpost&p=2720757"]formally announced the closure[/url] of the Alliance Statistics Depot, and his withdrawal from the statistics-collecting business. This is a sad day for Cybernations, for today we have lost one of the greatest resources that this gave has ever born witness to. Without a doubt in my mind, Unspeakable Evil is by far the greatest statistician and one of the greatest contributors to our community that Cybernations has seen in its five-year history, and his work will be sorely missed. At the same time, I must draw attention to another loss that Cybernations is seeing today; that of [color=gray][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color]. A former sanctioned alliance; this white team alliance took a large hit after the departure of much of its leadership six months ago; something from which it never seemed to fully recover. Tonight's update will be the last time that [color=gray][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] is mentioned in this thread, for while some of this alliance's nations have gone to the [color=orange][b]Independent Republic of Orange Nations[/b][/color], the [color=blue][i]World Task Force[/i][/color], and [color=black][i]Nordreich[/i][/color], the vast majority have found a new home in [color=gray][i]The Phoenix Federation[/i][/color] - the only other formerly-sanctioned white team alliance still in existance - which has jumped nearly 400k NS today and who I expect to see return to the race in the near future. The relevant announcement is, as always, located in Alliance Announcements. In non-obituary news, the [color=orange][b]Independent Republic of Orange Nations[/b][/color] and [color=black][b]Sparta[/b][/color] remain within a fifth of a point after both alliances post respectable jumps. The [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] uses a double-digit gain to bring their deficit against [color=orange][i]The Order of the Paradox[/i][/color] down to half a point, while both the [color=orange][b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] and the [color=brown][b]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/b][/color] add double-digits as well. Also doing very well is the [color=red][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color], who loses six nations but posts a gain just short of a full point; more than enough to claim biggest gainer; passing two alliances in the process. Mixed results in the first tier today, as the [color=#48D1CC][i]Mushroom Kingdom[/i][/color] gains more than a fifth of a point; dragging back ground against [color=black][i]Nordreich[/i][/color] while probably moving them safely away from [color=black]LoSS[/color], who comes within an inch of being passed by [color=purple]The Legion[/color] today after their quarter-point gain (I would hazard a guess that we will see a pass here in the coming days). [color=blue][i]NATO[/i][/color] also does well in adding a fifth of a point; just barely missing out on passing the [color=blue][i]Multicolored Cross-X Alliance[/i][/color]. On the flip side, [color=blue][i]Nueva Vida[/i][/color] drops a quarter-point; a result slightly exceeded by [color=blue][i]The Foreign Division[/i][/color]. Apart from the previously-aforementioned drop, the [color=gold][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] has the worst showing in tier two as they drop an eighth of a point. They're not likely in danger of a short-term pass by [color=orange][i]The Grand Lodge of Freemasons[/i][/color], but they will want to keep an eye on their rear-view mirror. [color=purple][i]iFOK[/i][/color] cuts their deficit against the [color=maroon][i]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] in half after adding four nations and a tenth of a point, while [color=green][i]Legacy[/i][/color], [color=black][i]Asgaard[/i][/color], and [color=#48D1CC][i]Athens[/i][/color] all pull off passes. These statistics collected at roughly 9 PM ET. Some significant changes may have occurred between that time and this post. ---------- Related Links: [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=299]Stats By Unspeakable Evil[/url] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=88020]Tournament Edition Sanction Race[/url] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=90318]News from Yesterday[/url] [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/The_Amazing_Sanction_Race]How To Update the Amazing Sanction Race[/url] [/update] Edited May 31, 2011 by Salmia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Salmia' timestamp='1306809636' post='2721021'] 8 {97} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Umbrella[/i][/color] : 29.00 --> 29.08 [color=green](+0.08)[/color] 9 {136} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange][i]The Order of the Paradox[/i][/color] : 28.24 --> 28.29 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/1442r0g.png[/img] 10 [323] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 27.61 --> 27.76 [color=green](+0.15)[/color] [/quote] We comin' for you Citadel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narva Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 The MHA has been steadily losing members for a week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Eh, it's more of we've gotten lazy recruiting and the rest of the "Well maybe Gramlins might be fun," or "I'm bored," crew have taken off. Hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamrecognized Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 MHA had, for a while, lost people to GRE. It was kinda like graduating. But once they went down the drain, people stopped doing that, obviously. A lot of people went over who would have trickled over when it reformed. We have lost several good people though. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1306810735' post='2721046'] We comin' for you Citadel [/quote] lol, Citadel will of already absorbed you before you realize that to be a future consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Hmm haven't been here in a while. Seems like NpO, GATO, VE and NPO are in close quarters GATO's about to pull some !@#$ out of there ass, we will catch up to NpO again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalk Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Can't wait to see the monthly update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='SoADarthCyfe6' timestamp='1306822292' post='2721217'] GATO's about to pull some !@#$ out of there ass, we will catch up to NpO again!! [/quote] While pulling things out of asses is always a fine strategy, I'm trying diligent administration. It'll be interesting to see, if one method proves supreme over the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Good update Salmia. Goodbye UE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dakotans Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Thanks to Gopher for letting us post the update, especially after he did all the work. Will be nice to see TPF up there in the coming days. Edited May 31, 2011 by the dakotans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1306802059' post='2720910'] And MK isn't largest loser. They lost about 21 score, which is in line with the average for the "main" frontline fighters across this war. Finding out who is the largest is a big difficult, given the very different exit dates for everyone, but I think that with around 42 score lost, NPO would probably take it. [/quote] I think we lost a staggering 1 or 2 points of score. Although I suppose that's what happens when you fight for 2 weeks, then have a break for a month fight for another week, another month break and wrap it up with another weeks fighting. Such is life :/ Also I'm guessing that NPO's return to pre-war stats should be fairly quick, given that only a small portion of their front page (top 40) nations had to fight the war, and those that did exit peace mode had sufficient warchests to rebuild, whether it compromised their wc or not. The small nations were always small, so the bulk of the losses would have been from the midtier which usually isn't hard to repair. They did lose around 100 nations, tho I'd hesitate a guess that the vast majority of those were either new players, or smaller nations sick of fighting after a month or two. So their dent on the score should be negligible. Plus NPO always put a lot of emphasis on recruiting, so they'll build their low tier stockpile rapidly again, which all adds up. I guess it depends on whether they put focus on rebuilding over maintaining wc standards, and growing at a more even pace with regards to infra:tech. I think this war were we saw high infra:low tech nations fighting high tech:medium infra, they realised having all the money in the world doesn't help when you're taking more damage than you're cumulatively dealing. (that's what I personally noticed in the upper tiers at least). At a push for a guess on how long it'd take I'd say 5 weeks would be a fairly general guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I'll give it a month or so, if not less, before NPO gets back to being among the biggest alliances. The damage done against them this war wasn't really anything that can't be recovered quickly considering most of the fighting took place in the ankle biters, and the big people that did end up fighting were hand picked for their WC's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1306821846' post='2721215'] lol, Citadel will of already absorbed you before you realize that to be a future consequence. [/quote] Well we're almost caught up to them so they better start quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardo Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 In another regrettable milestone, the population of Cyber Nations drops under 19,000 to [url="http://gatoforums.net/index.php?showtopic=18654&view=findpost&p=318814"]18,949 Nations[/url]. I hope this knowledge stimulates a discussion on improving the game environment so to lure new players and retain existing ones. It's sad that Unspeakable Evil has resigned his very wonderful effort. But it brings to focus that this, and many other statistical labors could be automated rather than be the burden of a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Blake Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Wasn't Atlantis also briefly sanctioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letum Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1306859420' post='2721411'] I'll give it a month or so, if not less, before NPO gets back to being among the biggest alliances. The damage done against them this war wasn't really anything that can't be recovered quickly considering most of the fighting took place in the ankle biters, and the big people that did end up fighting were hand picked for their WC's. [/quote] Quite the opposite actually. We lost about 8m NS from our 50k+ tier, and 4 months of war can be a drag even on the best of warchests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladisvok Destino Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lizardo' timestamp='1306869722' post='2721478'] In another regrettable milestone, the population of Cyber Nations drops under 19,000 to [url="http://gatoforums.net/index.php?showtopic=18654&view=findpost&p=318814"]18,949 Nations[/url]. I hope this knowledge stimulates a discussion on improving the game environment so to lure new players and retain existing ones. It's sad that Unspeakable Evil has resigned his very wonderful effort. But it brings to focus that this, and many other statistical labors could be automated rather than be the burden of a few. [/quote] If you look there have [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=101229]quite[/url] a [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=92994]few[/url] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=100596]discussions[/url] on the [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=92669]subject[/url] (just the ones I could be bothered to link to.) There's even a whole [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showforum=57]subforum[/url] for discussion of possible improvements. The trick will be if/when all the players agree. [quote name='William Blake' timestamp='1306871526' post='2721485'] Wasn't Atlantis also briefly sanctioned? [/quote] Wiki says yes: http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Sanctioned_Alliances Edited May 31, 2011 by Vladisvok Destino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 [quote name='William Blake' timestamp='1306871526' post='2721485'] Wasn't Atlantis also briefly sanctioned? [/quote] Yes, as were the first \m/ and one other apparently, but none of those three currently exist (with, of course, the debatable situation of \m/). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1306877487' post='2721534'] Yes, as were the first \m/ and one other apparently, but none of those three currently exist (with, of course, the debatable situation of \m/). [/quote] The other is TPF, who definitely still exist. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 [quote name='BamaBuc' timestamp='1306958309' post='2722122'] The other is TPF, who definitely still exist. -Bama [/quote] I believe the other is (was) CDS, if CN Wiki is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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