Letum Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) [s]It looks like NPO should have biggest gainer actually.[/s] Dammit Cortath Also, 2.11 from MHA. We're coming for ya. Edited July 14, 2010 by Letum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanore Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 [b][color="#9932CC"]Exactly how much does one member add to score, and how much does NS add to score? The reason I ask is because now that we have such a large portion of members deleting from the recruitment contest, it seems that it is hard to keep growth ahead of the daily losses. I was hoping to get some numbers or something, because I am a sucker for math. >.> Any helpful responses are appreciated. [/color][/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Paraphrased from the game docs: 300,000 NS is worth one point, and having 0.3% of the nations in the game (currently 70) is worth one point. So a tiny new nation is worth between 0.01 and 0.02, but my nation is worth about 0.5. That's why elite build alliances go up and down by a lot if they gain or lose members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanore Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Bob Janova' date='14 July 2010 - 06:58 AM' timestamp='1279112271' post='2370826'] Paraphrased from the game docs: 300,000 NS is worth one point, and having 0.3% of the nations in the game (currently 70) is worth one point. So a tiny new nation is worth between 0.01 and 0.02, but my nation is worth about 0.5. That's why elite build alliances go up and down by a lot if they gain or lose members. [/quote] [color="#9932CC"][b]I see. So by loosing 3-5 members in a day, we are loosing between 0.03 ( at 0.01 points and 3 members ) - 0.1 ( at 5 members at 0.02 points ) points per day. Considering that we have been breaking even, or making marginal gains over that, makes me feel a bit more safe in our long term growth. Edit: Thanks so much for the answer Bob![/b][/color] Edited July 14, 2010 by Lanore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronsightSniper Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 We did the math a while back, 1 NS = 0.0000033 Score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 [quote name='IronsightSniper' date='14 July 2010 - 10:39 AM' timestamp='1279118370' post='2370927'] We did the math a while back, 1 NS = 0.0000033 Score. [/quote] Or, alternatively, 3,000 NS = 0.01 score. I've generally said that three nations (at 0 NS) = 0.05 score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Just did the math, and at this very second, one 0 NS nation is worth 0.0143 score. ((1/23271)*1000)/3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derantol Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 [quote name='Cortath' date='14 July 2010 - 04:47 AM' timestamp='1279108031' post='2370772'] I will take you up on your invitation. Your biggest gainer is incorrect. It should be the New Pacific Order. [/quote] Well, I was assuming I'd make an adding or subtracting mistake. I'll fix that right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viridia Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 It still surprises me how fast WTF has grown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Viridia' date='15 July 2010 - 12:37 PM' timestamp='1279150632' post='2371773'] It still surprises me how fast WTF has grown. [/quote] *relative to the other alliances who regularly pummel themselves in war. Looking at their growth rate, i'm not too sure if they would even be 'sanctionable' if that last war had not occurred. TOP, MK, ODN, Legion, VE, Fark, IRON and maybe FOK would certainly be above them. Edited July 15, 2010 by Banksy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viridia Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yet no other new (though they are of some short age, they are not old by CN standards) alliances have risen like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Uhh, WTF was founded in June '06. They aren't new by any stretch. They are older than MK, Sparta, TDO, Fark, MHA and the second VE. That's half the sanctioned alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) [quote]Mini Date [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/1442r0g.png[/img] 4 [442] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 43.00 --> 43.27[color=green]](+0.27)[/color] [img]http://www.rnr-alliance.com/kctoker/sanction/gpa.png[/img] 3 [285] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=green][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 43.19 --> 43.26 [color=green](+0.07)[/color] [/quote] Edited July 15, 2010 by D34th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 no update? i guess i'm on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derantol Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 [center][img]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/104/sanctionrace.jpg[/img][/center] [b]July 14, 2010[/b] [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2iik8it.png[/img] 1 [628] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/b][/color] : 54.55 --> 54.70 [color=green](+0.15)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/125m9dw.png[/img] 2 [549] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=red][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color] : 52.44 --> 52.48 [color=green](+0.04)[/color] [img]http://www.rnr-alliance.com/kctoker/sanction/gpa.png[/img] 3 [285] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=green][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 43.19 --> 43.30 [color=green](+0.11)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/1442r0g.png[/img] 4 [441] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 43.00 --> 43.27 [color=green](+0.27)[/color] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/2zi6k1w.png[/img] 5 [345] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=black][b]Sparta[/b][/color] : 36.11 --> 36.47 [color=green](+0.36)[/color] {195} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=blue][i]World Task Force[/i][/color] : 35.03 --> 35.06 [color=green](+0.03)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/8vof2a.png[/img] 6 [309] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=green][b]Viridian Entente[/b][/color] : 34.88 --> 34.95 [color=green](+0.07)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/t5gf4j.png[/img] 7 [301] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Fark[/b][/color] : 33.94 --> 33.96 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] 8 [432] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=purple][b]The Legion[/b][/color] : 33.40 --> 33.62 [color=green](+0.22)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/2s7z11t.png[/img] 9 [340] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]The Democratic Order[/b][/color] : 32.70 --> 32.70 [color=black](+0.00)[/color] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/not5oi.png[/img] 11 [373] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=orange][b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] : 32.41 --> 32.46 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] [img]http://i47.tinypic.com/2qx2usj.png[/img] 10 [212] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][b]Mushroom Kingdom[/b][/color] : 32.48 --> 32.45 [color=red](-0.03)[/color] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/et8hzd.png[/img] 12 [229] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=orange][b]The Order of the Paradox[/b][/color] : 28.25 --> 28.05 [color=red](-0.20)[/color] --------------- 13 [387] [color=red](-3)[/color] [color=brown]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/color] : 26.90 --> 26.78 [color=red](-0.12)[/color] 14 [222] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=orange]FOK[/color] : 25.76 --> 25.77 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] 15 [316] [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=orange]Independent Republic of Orange Nations[/color] : 24.22 --> 24.31 [color=green](+0.09)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 1 : 23.25 --> 23.05 [color=red](-0.20)[/color] [285] [color=red](-3)[/color] [color=purple]United Purple Nations[/color] : 22.52 --> 22.49 [color=red](-0.03)[/color] {193} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]Ragnarok[/i][/color] : 20.75 --> 20.76 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] [282] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=orange]RnR[/color] : 20.35 --> 20.09 [color=red](-0.26)[/color] {150} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=blue][i]Nueva Vida[/i][/color] : 19.63 --> 19.63 [color=black](+0.00)[/color] {178} [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=gray][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] : 19.63 --> 19.61 [color=red](-0.02)[/color] [222] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=maroon]Random Insanity Alliance[/color] : 19.46 --> 19.45 [color=red](-0.01)[/color] {69} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Umbrella[/i][/color] : 18.98 --> 19.00 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 2 : 18.25 --> 18.05 [color=red](-0.20)[/color] {185} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=gold][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] : 17.76 --> 17.87 [color=green](+0.11)[/color] [213] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=blue]Multicolored Cross-X Alliance[/color] : 17.72 --> 17.73 [color=green](+0.01)[/color] {155} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]Athens[/i][/color] : 17.45 --> 17.50 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] {103} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Poison Clan[/i][/color] : 17.03 --> 17.05 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] {133} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=maroon][i]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] : 16.45 --> 16.66 [color=green](+0.21)[/color] {144} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=black][i]Nordreich[/i][/color] : 16.43 --> 16.48 [color=green](+0.05)[/color] {169} [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=blue][i]The Foreign Division[/i][/color] : 16.19 --> 16.25 [color=green](+0.06)[/color] [347] [color=green](+5)[/color] [color=black]Goon Order of Oppression Negligence and Sadism[/color] : 15.56 --> 15.83 [color=green](+0.27)[/color] {126} [color=black](+0)[/color] [color=gray][i]Siberian Tiger Alliance[/i][/color] : 14.90 --> 14.92 [color=green](+0.02)[/color] {119} [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=orange][i]The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons[/i][/color] : 14.25 --> 14.22 [color=red](-0.03)[/color] ---------- Add Line : 14.13 --> 14.03 [color=red](-0.10)[/color] ---------- Drop Line : 13.83 --> 13.73 [color=red](-0.10)[/color] [b]Biggest Gainer[/b] [color=black][b]Sparta[/b][/color] [color=green](+0.36)[/color] [b]Biggest Loser[/b] [color=orange]RnR[/color] : 20.35 --> 20.09 [color=red](-0.26)[/color] [b]Passes of the Day[/b] [b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] passes [color=#48D1CC][b]Mushroom Kingdom[/b][/color] [b]Commentary[/b] Sorry about that, forgot to post that I was on it. 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memoryproblems Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) troublesome double posts. Edited July 15, 2010 by memoryproblems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Derantol' date='15 July 2010 - 04:49 AM' timestamp='1279187367' post='2372649'] [b]Commentary[/b] Sorry about that, forgot to post that I was on it. Here we are! [/quote] FFS, i'm working 20 minutes on it, and i saw you viewing this earlier and couldn't say anything and save me that time? [i][b]classy.[/b][/i] [s]btw, you missed the NpO over GPA in passes.[/s] nevermind, i don't read enough. Edited July 15, 2010 by memoryproblems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marneus Calgar Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) [quote name='memoryproblems' date='15 July 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1279187578' post='2372653'] btw, you missed the NpO over GPA in passes. [/quote] [quote][img]http://www.rnr-alliance.com/kctoker/sanction/gpa.png[/img] 3 [285] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=green][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 43.19 --> 43.30 [color=green](+0.11)[/color] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/1442r0g.png[/img] 4 [441] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=blue][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 43.00 --> 43.27 [color=green](+0.27)[/color][/quote] I think not. Edit: I see what you mean, he didn't put that GPA passed them. Edited July 15, 2010 by Davian Thule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 With that .01 lead over MK we are C&G top dogs again I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marneus Calgar Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 [quote name='Banksy' date='15 July 2010 - 08:52 PM' timestamp='1279191151' post='2372675'] With that .01 lead over MK we are C&G top dogs again I see [/quote] But MK still calls the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Farewell Syz, o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 [quote name='Davian Thule' date='15 July 2010 - 08:34 AM' timestamp='1279197222' post='2372740'] But MK still calls the shots. [/quote] Confirming this. Our military advantage backs it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkO Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Bye Syz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dy Cazaril Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Nice try, NpO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 [quote name='SirWilliam' date='16 July 2010 - 04:17 AM' timestamp='1279207009' post='2372900'] Confirming this. Our military advantage backs it up. [/quote] =LOST= will give you the back of their hand for this insubordination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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