Geoffron X Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='16 May 2010 - 03:08 PM' timestamp='1274036887' post='2300099'] How long has TOP been in the top 12 now? Really don't want to start an argument in this thread, but I'm pretty sure you could chase off 99% of ghosts with just weak ground attacks and cruise missiles. Your terms do not forbid you from declaring wars on ghosts. [/quote] Then the ghost maxes military and farms our nations for tech, and we don't get defended because we attacked the ghost first. Absolutely brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 [quote name='Geoffron X' date='16 May 2010 - 11:07 PM' timestamp='1274047614' post='2300395'] Then the ghost maxes military and farms our nations for tech, and we don't get defended because we attacked the ghost first. Absolutely brilliant. [/quote] We seems to be forgetting the "No agressive wars" terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='silentkiller' date='16 May 2010 - 07:15 PM' timestamp='1274051690' post='2300556'] We seems to be forgetting the "No agressive wars" terms. [/quote] Probably because there isn't one? [size="1"](if you're going to reply, PM please)[/size] [quote name='Branimir' date='16 May 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1274045060' post='2300321'] Until then, objectively speaking, only thing "hurting" is our membership stat and annoyance from time to time on clearing up affiliations when one of the ghosts does a negative thing to a third party. Suppose we will manage for the time we have left under terms. [/quote] This is true enough. I'm just saying if you did want to ghost bust, you almost certainly could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='16 May 2010 - 08:57 PM' timestamp='1274057802' post='2300694'] This is true enough. I'm just saying if you did want to ghost bust, you almost certainly could. [/quote] Ghostbusting only really works when the ghostbuster wins the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marneus Calgar Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Okay, starting update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny N Karl Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Sorry to see you go INT...but I suspect you'll be back soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marneus Calgar Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) [center][img]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/104/sanctionrace.jpg[/img][/center] [b]May 16, 2010[/b] [img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3935/sanctionmhadc4.gif[/img] 1 [605] [color="green"](+6)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/b][/color] : 48.89 --> 49.19 [color="green"](+0.30)[/color] [img]http://www.rnr-alliance.com/kctoker/sanction/gpa.png[/img] 2 [278] [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#008000"][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 39.52 --> 39.57 [color="green"](+0.05)[/color] [img]http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2453/sanctionpolarwv6.jpg[/img] 3 [476] [color="green"](+6)[/color] [color="#0000ff"][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 39.12 --> 39.28 [color="green"](+0.16)[/color] [img]http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7968/sanctionnpo.png[/img] 4 [614] [color="red"](-2)[/color] [color="#ff0000"][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color] : 38.27 --> 38.21 [color="red"](-0.06)[/color] {194} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="blue"][i]World Task Force[/i][/color] : 34.50 --> 34.53 [color="green"](+0.03)[/color] [img]http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4131/sanctionspartatc0.jpg[/img] 5 [358] [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="black"][b]Sparta[/b][/color] : 32.45 --> 32.48 [color="green"](+0.03)[/color] [img]http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8602/sanctionvedj7.png[/img] 6 [336] [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="#008000"][b]Viridian Entente[/b][/color] : 32.25 --> 32.32 [color="green"](+0.07)[/color] [img]http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n454/kch674/Tdoflagv401-1.jpg[/img] 7 [364] [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]The Democratic Order[/b][/color] : 30.82 --> 30.81 [color="red"](-0.01)[/color] [img]http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/509/sanctionfarkzg7.jpg[/img] 8 [274] [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Fark[/b][/color] : 30.23 --> 30.07 [color="red"](-0.16)[/color] [img]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7316/sanctionmk.png[/img] 9 [225] [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Mushroom Kingdom[/b][/color] : 28.65 --> 28.83 [color="green"](+0.18)[/color] [img]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5269/sanctionodn.png[/img] 10 [337] [color="green"](+2)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] : 26.79 --> 26.88 [color=green"](+0.09)[/color] 11 [237] [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][b]The Order Of The Paradox[/b][/color] : 26.55 --> 26.58 [color="green"](+0.03)[/color] [img]http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2378/sanctionupn.png[/img] 12 [371] [color="green"](+5)[/color] [color="#800080"][b]United Purple Nations[/b][/color] : 24.41 --> 24.53 [color="green"](+0.12)[/color] --------------- 13 [350] [color="green"](+4)[/color] [color="#663300"]Global Alliance And Treaty Organization[/color] : 23.49 --> 23.60 [color="green"](+0.11)[/color] 14 [375] [color="red"](-3)[/color] [color="#800080"]The Legion[/color] : 23.33 --> 23.33 [color="black"](+0.00)[/color] [img]http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4940/sanctionfokqu8.png[/img] {196} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][i]FOK[/i][/color] : 23.21 --> 23.25 [color="green"](+0.04)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 1 : 19.41 --> 19.53 [color="green"](+0.12)[/color] 15 [201] [color="red"](-3)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"]Ragnarok[/color] : 19.56 --> 19.33 [color="red"](-0.23)[/color] [328] [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"]Independent Republic Of Orange Nations[/color] : 18.50 --> 18.56 [color="green"](+0.06)[/color] [284] [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"]RnR[/color] : 18.32 --> 18.41 [color="green"](+0.09)[/color] {168} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] : 17.70 --> 17.72 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] {187} [color="red"](-2)[/color] [color="#8b0000"][i]Random Insanity Alliance[/i][/color] : 17.85 --> 17.67 [color="red"](-0.18)[/color] {71} [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="black"][i]Umbrella[/i][/color] : 17.36 --> 17.42 [color="green"](+0.06)[/color] {128} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#0000ff"][i]Nueva Vida[/i][/color] : 17.08 --> 17.14 [color="green"](+0.06)[/color] {116} [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="black"][i]Poison Clan[/i][/color] : 16.09 --> 16.16 [color="green"](+0.07)[/color] {142} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="maroon"][i]Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] : 15.74 --> 15.72 [color="red"](-0.02)[/color] {189} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="gold"][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] : 15.71 --> 15.72 [color="green"](+0.01)[/color] [232] [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="blue"]Multicolored Cross-X Alliance[/color] : 15.66 --> 15.66 [color="black"](+0.00)[/color] {132} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][i]The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons[/i][/color] : 14.93 --> 14.97 [color="green"](+0.04)[/color] {148} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][i]Athens[/i][/color] : 14.59 --> 14.60 [color="green"](+0.01)[/color] {138} [color="green"](+3)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"][i]Siberian Tiger Alliance[/i][/color] : 14.32 --> 14.39 [color="green"](+0.07)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 2 : 14.41 --> 14.53 [color="green"](+0.12)[/color] {135} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="black"][i]Nordreich[/i][/color] : 13.94 --> 13.99 [color="green"](+0.05)[/color] {140} [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="blue"][i]The Foreign Division[/i][/color] : 12.65 --> 12.69 [color="green"](+0.04)[/color] ---------- Add Line : 12.21 --> 12.27 [color="green"](+0.06)[/color] [278] [color="green"](+4)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"]Guru Order[/color] : 12.00 --> 12.07 [color="green"](+0.07)[/color] {153} [color="red"](-2)[/color] [color="black"][i]LoSS[/i][/color] : 12.03 --> 11.98 [color="red"](-0.05)[/color] ---------- Drop Line : 11.91 --> 11.97 [color="green"](+0.06)[/color] [b]Biggest Gainer[/b] [img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3935/sanctionmhadc4.gif[/img] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/b][/color] [color="green"](+0.30)[/color] [b]Biggest Loser[/b] [color="#48D1CC"]Ragnarok[/color] [color="red"](-0.23)[/color] [b]Passes of the Day[/b] Tier Barrier 1 passes [color="#48D1CC"]Ragnarok[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] passes [color="#8b0000"][i]Random Insanity Alliance[/i][/color] [color="gold"][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] ties [color="maroon"][i]Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] [color="#48D1CC"]Guru Order[/color] passes [color="black"][i]LoSS[/i][/color] ---------- Related Links: [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=299]Stats By Unspeakable Evil[/url] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=67218]Tournament Edition Sanction Race[/url] [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/The_Amazing_Sanction_Race]How To Update the Amazing Sanction Race[/url] Sanction Race Update Creator spreadsheet: [url=http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pFdOj4i5u67gpw3xeTrmXWQ&hl=en]http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pFd...rmXWQ&hl=en[/url] [/update] [quote][color="#48D1CC"][b]The Grämlins Update[/b][/color] {34} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]The Grämlins[/i][/color] : 7.13 --> 7.08 [color=red](-0.05)[/color][/quote] Edited May 18, 2010 by Davian Thule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz90 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Nordreich is still going at it with Tier Barrier 2. Talk about an epic battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandnerd Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 we shall best it one of these days..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceArutha Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='bandnerd' date='17 May 2010 - 05:48 AM' timestamp='1274071686' post='2300965'] we shall best it one of these days..... [/quote] I have faith in you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 And phase two of the giant enema starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOoMidooOo Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 RoK big loss IRON is coming for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Bring Beer, and Pizza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' date='17 May 2010 - 12:25 PM' timestamp='1274081092' post='2301066'] Bring Beer, and Pizza. [/quote] Plenty of Beer incomming! Make those lists public! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='silentkiller' date='16 May 2010 - 07:15 PM' timestamp='1274051690' post='2300556'] We seems to be forgetting the "No agressive wars" terms. [/quote] Then provide a list of ghosts and declare Pacifica's unwillingness to defend them from tech-raids. The problem will resolve itself. Quit playing victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='shahenshah' date='17 May 2010 - 01:03 PM' timestamp='1274081586' post='2301068'] Plenty of Beer incomming! Make those lists public! [/quote] Public they are, at least MK seems to know who to hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuzaki Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' date='17 May 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1274075990' post='2301015'] And phase two of the giant enema starts. [/quote] A lovely way of putting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomiell Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Davian Thule' date='16 May 2010 - 10:59 PM' timestamp='1274068727' post='2300911'] [b]Passes of the Day[/b] Tier Barrier 1 passes [color="#48D1CC"]Ragnarok[/color] [/quote] UPN come back here with that tier barrier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratonbox Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Razgriz90' date='17 May 2010 - 07:09 AM' timestamp='1274069359' post='2300923'] Nordreich is still going at it with Tier Barrier 2. Talk about an epic battle. [/quote] [quote name='Pomiell' date='17 May 2010 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1274087948' post='2301095'] UPN come back here with that tier barrier! [/quote] This. But not that barrier, the other one. Arghh.. damn recruiting contest. Maybe we should start one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukcia Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Should STA not be below the Tier Barrier, not above it? Also, UPN do not want to stop growing. Catch up to the tier barriers in your own time. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Razgriz90' date='17 May 2010 - 12:09 AM' timestamp='1274069359' post='2300923'] Nordreich is still going at it with Tier Barrier 2. Talk about an epic battle. [/quote] It's making me sad. We gain a little; the barrier gains more. Barring deletions for inactivity, I'm optimistic that we'll cross it within a week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz90 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' date='17 May 2010 - 09:16 AM' timestamp='1274102155' post='2301173'] It's making me sad. We gain a little; the barrier gains more. Barring deletions for inactivity, I'm optimistic that we'll cross it within a week or so. [/quote] I will agree with you. Maybe you should consider warring the Tier Barrier 2 line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Ardus' date='17 May 2010 - 09:42 AM' timestamp='1274082132' post='2301073']Then provide a list of ghosts and declare Pacifica's unwillingness to defend them from tech-raids. [/quote] Pacifica currently holds no effective means of defending any nations from tech-raids or any other attacks, without violating terms. It is determined by the standard of the surrender instrument, that we are an demilitarized protectorate of the victors and they provide for our security. As such, our willingness or unwillingness is beside the point. [quote name='Ardus' date='17 May 2010 - 09:42 AM' timestamp='1274082132' post='2301073'] Quit playing victim.[/quote] As this is an OOC area and my post OOC, if I can make a plea to you and other posters on OOC level that the retarded and as such unusable uses of the term "playing victims" in all and any situations where there is debate between an NPO poster and other parties (and in this case, by simple clarification why we lost 9 members in a recent update) be stopped and some common sense be used as the travesty of it all is getting a little too much to handle for my personal sensibilities. If you have absolutely nothing substantial to say, then say nothing. That is all I have to say about that, if somebody wants to reply to me they can p.m. A question, what would WTF's real score be? Anybody know? Edited May 17, 2010 by Branimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Please keep the ghostbusting debate out of here What do you mean by their 'real score'? Are they 'hiding' nations in another AA? ... in which case you can just add the scores of all the AAs they are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) I do not know all of their AAs. Figured it was simpler to ask Edited May 17, 2010 by Branimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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