Londo Mollari Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Fyfe XIV' date='13 May 2010 - 02:15 AM' timestamp='1273734893' post='2296821'] We should put up a merger application on our forums. Even if we eat only one alliance a day (presumably around breakfast as it is the most important meal of the day) we should be in the sanction race in no time at all. [/quote] That's hilarious. You rock Fyfe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Finally GO gets into this, been a long time coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratonbox Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Londo Mollari' date='13 May 2010 - 09:29 AM' timestamp='1273732133' post='2296799'] I did a little statistical analysis today, and Athens actually has the 11th highest average growth rate (for the line of best fit) over the past 30 days, at an average of +13,000 NS per day. If current growth trends (of the past month) continue we will return to our former place of 19-20th in the sanction race sometime between 5 and 6 months from now. We won't make sanction though unless we get a solid, working recruitment program in place, or eat some other alliance. [/quote] You did that by using the NS from the alliance chart, right? I did the same thing for NoR now and we're at +20.609 per day. Although, i'm pretty sure there are alliances higher than that (like TOP and MK). Also.. UPN, stop gaining so we can pass that Tier Barrier already.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Don Fernando' date='12 May 2010 - 10:47 PM' timestamp='1273700851' post='2296246'] I'm working on it, simmer down naw! [/quote] by working on it, you meant getting rid of a quarter point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Londo Mollari' date='13 May 2010 - 02:29 AM' timestamp='1273732133' post='2296799'] I did a little statistical analysis today, and Athens actually has the 11th highest average growth rate (for the line of best fit) over the past 30 days, at an average of +13,000 NS per day. If current growth trends (of the past month) continue we will return to our former place of 19-20th in the sanction race sometime between 5 and 6 months from now. We won't make sanction though unless we get a solid, working recruitment program in place, or eat some other alliance. [/quote] I've tried doing the same thing in the past, and I've found that most alliances don't generally follow the same growth pattern from one month to the next. People go inactive, banking programs stop, a giant nation gets deleted, mergers, splinters, giant wars, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpdogg Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Gopherbashi' date='13 May 2010 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1273756862' post='2296929'] I've tried doing the same thing in the past, and I've found that most alliances don't generally follow the same growth pattern from one month to the next. People go inactive, banking programs stop, a giant nation gets deleted, mergers, splinters, giant wars, etc. [/quote] Post-war growth rates the last 2 months are probably not indicative of long term rates for the next say 10 months either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Waldie Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 way too go guru's /waldie pull out the beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='ratonbox' date='13 May 2010 - 04:02 AM' timestamp='1273741346' post='2296862'] You did that by using the NS from the alliance chart, right? I did the same thing for NoR now and we're at +20.609 per day. Although, i'm pretty sure there are alliances higher than that (like TOP and MK). Also.. UPN, stop gaining so we can pass that Tier Barrier already.. [/quote] My figure for NoR wasn't quite that high, as a lot of your gain was at the end of the month from a few high NS nations joining, and not from nation growth. But NoR is certainly doing well, and will pass Athens if our growth rates remain the same. :v That, however, remains to be seen. [quote name='Gopherbashi' date='13 May 2010 - 08:21 AM' timestamp='1273756862' post='2296929'] I've tried doing the same thing in the past, and I've found that most alliances don't generally follow the same growth pattern from one month to the next. People go inactive, banking programs stop, a giant nation gets deleted, mergers, splinters, giant wars, etc. [/quote] Single huge nations joining/leaving/getting deleted, and giant spikes from mergers, and that kind of thing, are things that got ignored in my calculation. I was looking at the line of best fit, the average slope of growth over the past month. However, in some cases, an alliance's chart was just jagged across the screen because the alliance was losing a nation every few days regularly, and then regrowing a bit In those cases, I included those drops in the slope, assuming that this sort of decline is probably going to continue indefinitely. [quote name='Grumpdogg' date='13 May 2010 - 09:27 AM' timestamp='1273760805' post='2296953'] Post-war growth rates the last 2 months are probably not indicative of long term rates for the next say 10 months either. [/quote] Probably not for everyone. But for us, it will because of 2 reasons. A) how hard we got hammered beating TOP (we have a lottt of regrowing to do still) and B) the large amount of tech reps we're getting from TOP over the next several months. We've also had the good fortune to have an aid slot efficiency of, at my last count, 58% of alliance aid slots in use (would have been 48% if all the slots containing reps were empty instead). Assuming that this level is roughly maintained, we should definitely enjoy a superior growth rate to most other alliances. If only we actually had someone who knew how to recruit, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 i predict a large loss for RIA sometime withing the next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Not being Athens might make you a more attractive alliance to join. [img]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9967/trollfacebydesdinova84.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratonbox Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Londo Mollari' date='13 May 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1273769298' post='2297015'] My figure for NoR wasn't quite that high, as a lot of your gain was at the end of the month from a few high NS nations joining, and not from nation growth. But NoR is certainly doing well, and will pass Athens if our growth rates remain the same. :v That, however, remains to be seen. [/quote] Well, he hope to pass the Tier Barrier first. And until all those large nations came(and the big spike in NS), we've had and average of 12875 NS/day. It's still pretty good. Perhaps you could post those stats in a new thread, if you still have them, cause they would be interesting to look at. Also, i'm currently calculating the slot usage for NoR too. LE: just finished it and we have 49.2%. It was a bit higher until i remembered to include Disaster Relief Agencies, after that it was a bit lower because i forgot to remove the missing Foreign Ministries. Edited May 13, 2010 by ratonbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Perry Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Congrats Guru Order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Another good gain for NV tonight, albeit we lost one member but regained another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceArutha Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='ratonbox' date='13 May 2010 - 09:14 PM' timestamp='1273781649' post='2297161'] Well, he hope to pass the Tier Barrier first. And until all those large nations came(and the big spike in NS), we've had and average of 12875 NS/day. It's still pretty good. Perhaps you could post those stats in a new thread, if you still have them, cause they would be interesting to look at. Also, i'm currently calculating the slot usage for NoR too. LE: just finished it and we have 49.2%. It was a bit higher until i remembered to include Disaster Relief Agencies, after that it was a bit lower because i forgot to remove the missing Foreign Ministries. [/quote] NV's is like 9000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 [quote name='Razgriz90' date='13 May 2010' timestamp='1273721189' post='2296618'][b]Commentary[/b] Please welcome the [color="#48D1CC"][i]Guru Order[/i][/color] to the Sanction Race. Nice gain from [color="#48D1CC"][i]Athens[/i][/color] today and a loss of a quarter of a point from the [color="black"][i]Poison Clan[/i][/color]. If someone from the [color="#48D1CC"][i]Guru Order[/i][/color] wishes to do some more commentary on their first official day in the Sanction Race, feel free to do so.[/quote] I'm not in GO but let me say that this had to happen sooner or later. I wouldn't be surprised at all if GO climbed up to great heights in the next months (barring some unexpected incident, of course). GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengingAngel256 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Congrats Guru Order! Good to see you guys in the sanction race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marneus Calgar Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Seeings as Raz cried when I said I wouldn't do it, I shall do it anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marneus Calgar Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) [center][img]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/104/sanctionrace.jpg[/img][/center] [b]May 13, 2010[/b] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3935/sanctionmhadc4.gif[/img] 1 [598] [color="green"](+4)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/b][/color] : 48.68 --> 48.79 [color="green"](+0.11)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://www.rnr-alliance.com/kctoker/sanction/gpa.png[/img] 2 [276] [color="green"](+2)[/color] [color="#008000"][b]Green Protection Agency[/b][/color] : 39.44 --> 39.49 [color="green"](+0.05)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2453/sanctionpolarwv6.jpg[/img] 3 [472] [color="red"](-2)[/color] [color="#0000ff"][b]New Polar Order[/b][/color] : 39.00 --> 39.05 [color="green"](+0.05)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7968/sanctionnpo.png[/img] 4 [625] [color="red"](-2)[/color] [color="#ff0000"][b]New Pacific Order[/b][/color] : 38.65 --> 38.50 [color="red"](-0.15)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {194} [color="green"](+1)[/color] [color="blue"][i]World Task Force[/i][/color] : 34.44 --> 34.46 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4131/sanctionspartatc0.jpg[/img] 5 [355] [color="red"](-4)[/color] [color="black"][b]Sparta[/b][/color] : 32.68 --> 32.49 [color="red"](-0.19)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8602/sanctionvedj7.png[/img] 6 [329] [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="#008000"][b]Viridian Entente[/b][/color] : 32.02 --> 32.04 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n454/kch674/Tdoflagv401-1.jpg[/img] 7 [363] [color="green"](+2)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]The Democratic Order[/b][/color] : 30.69 --> 30.71 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/509/sanctionfarkzg7.jpg[/img] 8 [274] [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Fark[/b][/color] : 30.14 --> 30.15 [color="green"](+0.01)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7316/sanctionmk.png[/img] 9 [226] [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][b]Mushroom Kingdom[/b][/color] : 29.00 --> 28.81 [color="red"](-0.19)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5269/sanctionodn.png[/img] 10 [328] [color="green"](+3)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][b]Orange Defense Network[/b][/color] : 26.42 --> 26.54 [color=green"](+0.12)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] 11 [233] [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][b]The Order Of The Paradox[/b][/color] : 26.13 --> 26.34 [color="green"](+0.21)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2378/sanctionupn.png[/img] 12 [355] [color="green"](+2) [/color] [color="#800080"][b]United Purple Nations[/b][/color] : 24.12 --> 24.22 [color="green"](+0.10)[/color] --------------- [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] 13 [346] [color="green"](+5)[/color] [color="#663300"]Global Alliance And Treaty Organization[/color] : 23.40 --> 23.48 [color="green"](+0.08)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [img]http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4940/sanctionfokqu8.png[/img] {198} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][i]FOK[/i][/color] : 23.16 --> 23.18 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] 14 [381] [color="green"](+3)[/color] [color="#800080"]The Legion[/color] : 22.74 --> 22.81 [color="green"](+0.07)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] 15 [203] [color="green"](+2)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"]Ragnarok[/color] : 19.42 --> 19.50 [color="green"](+0.08)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 1 : 19.12 --> 19.22 [color="green"](+0.10)[/color] [color="orange"]•[/color] [330] [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"]Independent Republic Of Orange Nations[/color] : 18.53 --> 18.53 [color="black"](+0.00)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {190} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#8b0000"][i]Random Insanity Alliance[/i][/color] : 17.81 --> 17.81 [color="black"](+0.00)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [278] [color="green"](+7)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"]RnR[/color] : 17.50 --> 17.81 [color="green"](+0.31)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {168} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] : 17.76 --> 17.67 [color="red"](-0.09)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {70} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="black"][i]Umbrella[/i][/color] : 17.28 --> 17.29 [color="green"](+0.01)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {127} [color="green"](+2)[/color] [color="#0000ff"][i]Nueva Vida[/i][/color] : 16.77 --> 17.04 [color="green"](+0.27)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {115} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="black"][i]Poison Clan[/i][/color] : 16.19 --> 16.14 [color="red"](-0.05)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {143} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="maroon"][i]Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] : 16.02 --> 15.82 [color="red"](-0.20)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {192} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="gold"][i]Federation of Armed Nations[/i][/color] : 15.77 --> 15.79 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [236] [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="blue"]Multicolored Cross-X Alliance[/color] : 15.72 --> 15.73 [color="green"](+0.01)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {131} [color="red"](+-2)[/color] [color="#ff8c00"][i]The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons[/i][/color] : 14.93 --> 14.89 [color="red"](-0.04)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {150} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][i]Athens[/i][/color] : 14.54 --> 14.56 [color="green"](+0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {136} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"][i]Siberian Tiger Alliance[/i][/color] : 14.40 --> 14.43 [color="green"](+0.03)[/color] ---------- Tier Barrier 2 : 14.12 --> 14.22 [color="green"](+0.10)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {133} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="black"][i]Nordreich[/i][/color] : 13.84 --> 13.82 [color="red"](-0.02)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {137} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color="blue"][i]The Foreign Division[/i][/color] : 12.57 --> 12.56 [color="red"](-0.01)[/color] ---------- Add Line : 12.06 --> 12.11 [color="green"](+0.05)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {157} [color="green"](+3)[/color] [color="black"][i]LoSS[/i][/color] : 12.01 --> 12.08 [color="green"](+0.07)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] [279] [color="red"](-3)[/color] [color="#48D1CC"][i]Guru Order[/i][/color] : 12.07 --> 12.04 [color="red"](-0.03)[/color] [color="#c0c0c0"]•[/color] {122} [color="red"](-1)[/color] [color="orange"][i]The International[/i][/color] : 11.95 --> 11.88 [color="red"](-0.07)[/color] ---------- Drop Line : 11.76 --> 11.81 [color="green"](+0.05)[/color] [b]Biggest Gainer[/b] [color="#ff8c00"]RnR[/color] [color="green"](+0.31)[/color] [b]Biggest Loser[/b] [color="maroon"][i]Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations[/i][/color] [color="red"](-0.20)[/color] [b]Passes of the Day[/b] [color="#ff8c00"]RnR[/color] passes [color="#c0c0c0"][i]The Order Of Light[/i][/color] [color="#ff8c00"]RnR[/color] ties [color="#8b0000"][i]Random Insanity Alliance[/i][/color] Add Line passes [color="#48D1CC"][i]Guru Order[/i][/color] [color="black"][i]LoSS[/i][/color] passes [color="#48D1CC"][i]Guru Order[/i][/color] [b]Commentary[/b] Not really in the mood for commentary. ---------- Related Links: [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=299]Stats By Unspeakable Evil[/url] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=67218]Tournament Edition Sanction Race[/url] [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/The_Amazing_Sanction_Race]How To Update the Amazing Sanction Race[/url] Sanction Race Update Creator spreadsheet: [url=http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pFdOj4i5u67gpw3xeTrmXWQ&hl=en]http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pFd...rmXWQ&hl=en[/url] [/update] [quote][color="#48D1CC"][b]The Grämlins Update[/b][/color] [color=#48D1CC]•[/color] {38} [color="black"](+0)[/color] [color=#48D1CC][i]The Grämlins[/i][/color] : 7.49 --> 7.49 [color=black](+0.00)[/color][/quote] Edited May 14, 2010 by Davian Thule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) back R&R back, you will pass us soon enough when the drop i mentioned in my last post occurs. Edit: oh damn i didn't know what happened with LOUD. wasn't trying to offend anyone, was gone when it happened. oh and go Celtics. Edited May 14, 2010 by im317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juslen Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 [quote name='im317' date='13 May 2010 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1273809751' post='2297577'] back R&R back, you will pass us soon enough when the drop i mentioned in my last post occurs. Edit: oh damn i didn't know what happened with LOUD. wasn't trying to offend anyone, was gone when it happened. oh and go Celtics. [/quote] If we pass you guys, maybe we can change our alliance name to Random & Ridiculous in your honor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceArutha Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 ohai Umbrella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theArrowheadian Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 [quote name='juslen' date='13 May 2010 - 11:32 PM' timestamp='1273811556' post='2297599'] If we pass you guys, maybe we can change our alliance name to Random & Ridiculous in your honor [/quote] Well that's one way to get rid of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormalek Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 [quote name='Davian Thule' date='14 May 2010 - 05:58 AM' timestamp='1273809504' post='2297572'] Add Line passes [color="#48D1CC"][i]Guru Order[/i][/color][/quote] Damn you, Add Line! Go, go, Guru Order! [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/war2.gif[/img] Then again - that means another Sanction milestone to get → another party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratonbox Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 oh.. it feels a bit lonely in the tier.. only us and TFD. Also, stop gaining UPN.. we want to pass that barrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukcia Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 [quote name='ratonbox' date='14 May 2010 - 12:58 PM' timestamp='1273838274' post='2297721'] oh.. it feels a bit lonely in the tier.. only us and TFD. Also, stop gaining UPN.. we want to pass that barrier. [/quote] Don't you feel special? It's like your own private area. You and TFD should become super allies from this. And why don't you gain twice as much as us? It means we can continue to grow and you guys shoot up in strength! Win win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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