Drai Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Vox have the freedom to do so. Any 30 member alliance could have, but none other than Vox would have. Credit where credit is due my friend, you can do better than this. This is actually a good point, the fact that Vox actually did something like that gives them the edge over an other alliance in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Lord Moth Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Vox have the freedom to do so. Any 30 member alliance could have, but none other than Vox would have. Credit where credit is due my friend, you can do better than this. The value of a given trait is highly subjective. I imagine Stukov doesn't value the ability or willingness to coordunate a mass-ghosting of an alliance affiliation very highly. ...do you? Edited November 28, 2008 by Great Lord Moth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Stukov II Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Vox have the freedom to do so. Any 30 member alliance could have, but none other than Vox would have. Credit where credit is due my friend, you can do better than this. Any alliance that is completely composed of ZId members would do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinch Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Any alliance that is completely composed of ZId members would do the same. I rest my case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Where is the update? I need sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomede Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Where is the update? I need sleep ugh... Are you really asking I do it at 5:54 am? ... ... Fine. Update in whenever. If I get locked out by in-game update then I give up. PS /me wubs on Drai for it only being friendly teasing. "During times of peak traffic the page that you requested is disabled in order to..." Night folks! Edited November 28, 2008 by Diomede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 They can only give and take away TOP's sanction and that is only because we are 6th in NS but under 200 members. We have for a long time been sanction worthy, but have not had 200 members required. Just because Vox can ghost an AA doesn't mean they have power, it just means the current sanction system is flawed.EDIT: Also by your logic any 30 member alliance has just as much power as Vox. If any alliance would have ghosted our AA we would have gained a sanction. The ability to ghost is not some unique power possessed by Vox. I don't deny TOP is sanction worthy. However, under the current system, flawed though it may be, Vox is "granting" TOP a sanction. Thus, giving it the power to sanction and unsanction an alliance. That has never been done before. There is more to power than the ability to raise the GRL to 15.00 in a single day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Stukov II Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 So we are sanctioned now, but has anything really changed? TOP hasn't got any stronger or any weaker because of it. Only important thing that may come out of it is we will get our flag in-game. That is up to admin though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 So we are sanctioned now, but has anything really changed? TOP hasn't got any stronger or any weaker because of it. Only important thing that may come out of it is we will get our flag in-game. That is up to admin though. In reality, no, nothing has changed. What I am trying to say that for as long as this game has existed, a sanction has been the peak of what an alliance achieves. Every alliance strives to be sanctioned. Without Vox, TOP wouldn't be sanctioned. While that may be pointless, as TOP has always been sanction worthy and TOP's power/strength hasn't changed at all, it is still notable. And laughable, as it proves how flawed the sanction system is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virillus Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I don't deny TOP is sanction worthy. However, under the current system, flawed though it may be, Vox is "granting" TOP a sanction. Thus, giving it the power to sanction and unsanction an alliance. That has never been done before. There is more to power than the ability to raise the GRL to 15.00 in a single day Not true. The Pacific Order had that power at one point. When it struck down the NAAC's sanction and replaced it with the Polar Order in a matter of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyFallout Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Just as a note, Stukov you must realize that by "giving" you a sanction, Vox stripped GGA of one. I'm sorry, but not many alliances are willing to do such a feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroknia Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I guess I'll do update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrThor Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I'd like to thank Vox for attempting to score TOP an in game flag. Epic fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I give up, no update yet. I'll sleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 How about instead of everyone posting about the TOP - Vox thing we just get back to the real matter at hand: The Sanction Race. Also, since it's past update, might as well just wait until later today to do the next one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Edit: Thanks for the PM Hefe Edited November 28, 2008 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroknia Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) November 27, 2008 1 New Pacific Order: 76.00 --> 75.61 (-0.39) 2 Independent Republic of Orange Nations: 66.80 --> 66.94 (+0.14) 3 Multicolored Cross-X Alliance: 48.86 --> 48.92 (+0.06) 4 Mostly Harmless Alliance: 38.97 --> 39.15 (+0.18) 5 Sparta: 38.49 --> 38.34 (-0.15) 6 Ragnarok: 35.73 --> 35.85 (+0.12) 7 The Order of the Paradox: 33.45 --> 33.51 (+0.06) [2] 8 Fark: 31.51 --> 31.58 (+0.07) 9 Orange Defense Network: 30.46 --> 30.58 (+0.12) 10 Viridian Entente: 28.61 --> 28.68 (+0.07) 11 FOK: 26.20 --> 26.22 (+0.02) 12 The Phoenix Federation: 26.03 --> 26.08 (+0.05) -------------------- {118} The Grämlins: 25.47 --> 25.83 (+0.36) 13 Grand Global Alliance: 24.02 --> 23.89 (-0.13) 14 New Polar Order: 21.51 --> 21.64 (+0.13) 15 Green Protection Agency: 21.30 --> 21.35 (+0.05) 16 The Order of Light: 21.06 --> 21.09 (+0.03) {152} Echelon: 18.74 --> 18.43 (-0.31) 17 The Democratic Order: 18.19 --> 18.16 (-0.03) {162} Valhalla: 17.17 --> 17.37 (+0.20) 18 United Purple Nations: 17.00 --> 17.01 (+0.01) 19 Global Democratic Alliance: 14.46 --> 14.50 (+0.04) 20 Monos Archein: 14.39 --> 14.43 (+0.04) {172} RnR: 13.92 --> 13.96 (+0.04) {153} LoSS: 14.06 --> 13.92 (-0.14) {160} Mushroom Kingdom: 13.68 --> 13.79 (+0.11) {159} M*A*S*H: 13.63 --> 13.47 (-0.16) 21 Invicta: 13.23 --> 13.27 (+0.04) 22 The Legion: 13.14 --> 13.17 (+0.03) {187} NATO: 13.06 --> 13.12 (+0.06) 23 The Dark Evolution: 12.99 --> 13.00 (+0.01) {113} World Task Force: 12.84 --> 12.88 (+0.04) 24 North Atlantic Defense Coalition: 12.75 --> 12.84 (+0.09) {159} Random Insanity Alliance: 12.75 --> 12.81 (+0.06) ---------- Add Line: 12.05 ---------- Drop Line: 11.75 Biggest Gainer {118} The Grämlins: +0.36 Biggest Loser New Pacific Order: -0.39 Passes of the Day {172} RnR passes {153} LoSS Commentary I am sleepy. Not gonna do much here. Alright day for the sanctioned Aqua. Not much happening today. People too full on turkey to quit and join alliances I guess. Today's shoutout goes to {118} The Grämlins for growin' like villains and {172} RnR because I can Net Gains By Colour TOO LAZY TO DO THIS. IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO I'LL EDIT IT IN. Also my first time. Not sure about how to do add and drop lines, someone want to fill me in? -------------------- Related Links: Stats by Unspeakable Evil Lord Sharpe's MDP Web Vote for Cybernations Daily! [/update] Edited November 28, 2008 by Kroknia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterxo Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 7 The Order of the Paradox: 33.45 --> 33.51 (+0.06) [2?] Yes, TOP has another day under its belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinch Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Add and drop lines are fixed until TOP get sanctioned. Also just remove the net gains by colour if you're not going to update it, so it's not confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamrecognized Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Just a few math errors... 4 Mostly Harmless Alliance: 38.97 --> 39.15 (+0.18) 6 Ragnarok: 35.73 --> 35.85 (+0.12) 19 Global Democratic Alliance: 14.46 --> 14.50 (+0.04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMMELHSQ Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 TPF, here we come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroknia Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 poop, sleeplessness and booze destroy my ability to make quality work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I miss having nukes O well gains anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureShadow Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Way to go TOP, I guess. Though Vox kinda screwed it up for you. And congrats to everyone else who's gaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Mostly Harmless Alliance: 38.97 --> 39.15 (+0.18)Sparta: 38.49 --> 38.34 (-0.15) Sparta as always speaking too soon , and we lost quite a big member too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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