pd73bassman Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Doomhouse is a champion for tech buyers rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationRuler Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330000481' post='2926532'] Oh please, someone, trigger it. Do you realize the implicit irony in a policy where big nations threaten small nations with war is you won't be in range, basically, right? That's kind of why I was never for this kind of thing since it can't work. [/quote] It's like you forgot GOONS is in DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 So you expect people you make agreements with to live up to the agreement? How [i]controversial[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDog Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='lebubu' timestamp='1330000108' post='2926528'] War, if necessary. [/quote] For clarification, is it the view of DH & co-signatories that only the offending nation shall be bought to account or shall you be inflicting punishment on the whole alliance that nation is part of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329998724' post='2926513'] Okay, keep that in mind, though. [b]I don't necessarily applaud the UE thing[/b], but given the practices endorsed by those who wrote this document, I support it as a matter of being against them. Call it a policy of joining any battle against certain alliances I can. [/quote] Oh yeah? [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329894036' post='2925474'] The Nausean Aid Commission applauds this announcement! [/quote] [img]http://www.umbrella-alliance.com/style_emoticons/genmaycnsmilies/emot-colbert.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1330001470' post='2926535'] It's like you forgot GOONS is in DH [/quote] GOONS will show you why Umbrella doesn't need a lower tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 GOONS West will show you why we don't need GOONS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Gross Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I understand that there is some agenda here regarding UE but I am ignoring that because there is something logical here. Thank having been said, I ask this: If an AA were to sign along on this idea is there any obligation from the other alliances? For example: Let us pretend that Umbrella signed along, and they hate GOONS and vice versa (this is fictional, remember). Later IRON gets stiffed on a tech deal. They ask GOONS for help because Umbrella lacks nations in range to hit the thief. Is GOONS required to help Umbrella despite the animosity between the two alliances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) See, all they need to do is use the strategy used by Polar and co. on IRON or the one they used in DH-NPO. It was less than smart in DH-NPO since going all out would have done more damage, but it'd make the most sense here. Just GOONS won't be enough, NationRuler. Your arrogance is unsurpassed. JA: You mistake my position. I said necessarily applauding it in itself. Consider it like OOC: the USSR supporting Chang Kai-Shek against the Warlords Edited February 23, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leet Guy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='SirDog' timestamp='1329998827' post='2926514'] Care to elaborate? [/quote] Character assassination, I hear we're pretty good at that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutkase Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Seems everyone is forgetting Roguefest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330005408' post='2926586']Just GOONS won't be enough, NationRuler. Your arrogance is unsurpassed.[/quote] unsurpassed, with the exception of yourself, looks like. [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330006889' post='2926612'] Seems everyone is forgetting Roguefest. [/quote] I remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaarlaamp Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Next step is doing a lot of tech deals with UE, and then hope they default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Like I said, you should definitely do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefspari Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330000481' post='2926532'] Do you realize the implicit irony in a policy where big nations threaten small nations with war is you won't be in range, basically, right? That's kind of why I was never for this kind of thing since it can't work.[/quote] Are you sure you were paying attention when you were in Umbrella? How hard do you think it would be for Umbrella to convince GOONs to go fight a war? It could be initiated with a single PM to Sardonic that starts with "Please roll..." [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL3.jpg[/img] [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330005408' post='2926586'] Just GOONS won't be enough, NationRuler. Your arrogance is unsurpassed.[/quote] Are you sure? There was that one time we fought 14 alliances at the same time and then they all paid us reps. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL7.jpg[/img] [right]Besides, the only way this makes sense either way is A) you only punish the offending nation in which case GOONs can handle that just fine and will absolutely "be enough," or B) you punish the entire alliance in which case all tiers will be necessary and MK and Umbrella get involved anyway. So what you're saying is nonsensical. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeriswutR4.jpg[/img][/right] [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330006889' post='2926612'] Seems everyone is forgetting Roguefest. [/quote] What exactly happened at Roguefest that matters here? Unless you mean to agree with our fearsome might that time we defeated a zillion rogues at once. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL6.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Like I said, not worried even if you do it. I'll enjoy watching Umbrella arrange the aid. Hope they're up to the task. Edited February 23, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leet Guy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330006889' post='2926612'] Seems everyone is forgetting Roguefest. [/quote] Remember, remember the betrayal of TheNeverender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmia Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Mr Gross' timestamp='1330003232' post='2926553'] I understand that there is some agenda here regarding UE but I am ignoring that because there is something logical here. Thank having been said, I ask this: If an AA were to sign along on this idea is there any obligation from the other alliances? For example: Let us pretend that Umbrella signed along, and they hate GOONS and vice versa (this is fictional, remember). Later IRON gets stiffed on a tech deal. They ask GOONS for help because Umbrella lacks nations in range to hit the thief. Is GOONS required to help Umbrella despite the animosity between the two alliances? [/quote] It is a policy IRON already practices and holds in belief. There is nothing GOONS needs to do. Adding our signature to something we already do by practice is no big deal to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutkase Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1330007507' post='2926627'] What exactly happened at Roguefest that matters here? Unless you mean to agree with our fearsome might that time we defeated a zillion rogues at once. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerishehL6.jpg[/img] [/quote] After bringing in how many of your allies? The point I'm making is I don't believe GOONS has ever faced anyone alone, even when it could of been considered. Also you "defeated" those alliances after receiving billions in aid to keep fighting. If anyone is gloating about it, it should be Umbrella. Edited February 23, 2012 by nutkase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330010548' post='2926670'] After bringing in how many of your allies? The point I'm making is I don't believe GOONS has ever faced anyone alone, even when it could of been considered. Also you "defeated" those alliances after receiving billions in aid to keep fighting. If anyone is gloating about it, it should be Umbrella. [/quote] Hey we're writing the history here, loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefspari Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330010548' post='2926670'] After bringing in how many of your allies? The point I'm making is I don't believe GOONS has ever faced anyone alone, even when it could of been considered. Also you "defeated" those alliances after receiving billions in aid to keep fighting. If anyone is gloating about it, it should be Umbrella. [/quote] This whole "you guys would suck if you didn't have allies" thing is getting really old. What's your point? Everyone would suck without allies. Can you name anyone that would be able to withstand a war by themselves and win? The entire reason Doomhouse exists is so we don't have to run things alone. You don't fight GOONs, you fight Doomhouse. It's how it works in this world, dude. If anything, we overplay it just to piss people off. Because we can. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL6.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Everyone's power is projected power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutkase Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1330011070' post='2926678'] Hey we're writing the history here, loser. [/quote] ahaha, I actually enjoyed this answer. Kudos to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutkase Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1330011136' post='2926679'] This whole "you guys would suck if you didn't have allies" thing is getting really old. What's your point? Everyone would suck without allies. Can you name anyone that would be able to withstand a war by themselves and win? The entire reason Doomhouse exists is so we don't have to run things alone. You don't fight GOONs, you fight Doomhouse. It's how it works in this world, dude. If anything, we overplay it just to piss people off. Because we can. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aerisdisL6.jpg[/img] [/quote] Guess what Legion can do, GOONS cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330012335' post='2926689'] ahaha, I actually enjoyed this answer. Kudos to you! [/quote] I'm here all day. But to be fair, assembling a group of "alliances" to attack GOONS and then complaining that GOONS called in some of their friends could be construed as hypocritical in some courts. Legion? There wouldn't be a single digit of NS in that place if they didn't have peace mode during that war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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