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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330000481' post='2926532']
Oh please, someone, trigger it.

Do you realize the implicit irony in a policy where big nations threaten small nations with war is you won't be in range, basically, right? That's kind of why I was never for this kind of thing since it can't work.
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It's like you forgot GOONS is in DH

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[quote name='lebubu' timestamp='1330000108' post='2926528']
War, if necessary.
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For clarification, is it the view of DH & co-signatories that only the offending nation shall be bought to account or shall you be inflicting punishment on the whole alliance that nation is part of?

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329998724' post='2926513']
Okay, keep that in mind, though. [b]I don't necessarily applaud the UE thing[/b], but given the practices endorsed by those who wrote this document, I support it as a matter of being against them. Call it a policy of joining any battle against certain alliances I can.
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Oh yeah?

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329894036' post='2925474']
The Nausean Aid Commission applauds this announcement!
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I understand that there is some agenda here regarding UE but I am ignoring that because there is something logical here.

Thank having been said, I ask this: If an AA were to sign along on this idea is there any obligation from the other alliances? For example: Let us pretend that Umbrella signed along, and they hate GOONS and vice versa (this is fictional, remember). Later IRON gets stiffed on a tech deal. They ask GOONS for help because Umbrella lacks nations in range to hit the thief. Is GOONS required to help Umbrella despite the animosity between the two alliances?

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See, all they need to do is use the strategy used by Polar and co. on IRON or the one they used in DH-NPO. It was less than smart in DH-NPO since going all out would have done more damage, but it'd make the most sense here.

Just GOONS won't be enough, NationRuler. Your arrogance is unsurpassed.


JA: You mistake my position. I said necessarily applauding it in itself. Consider it like OOC: the USSR supporting Chang Kai-Shek against the Warlords

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330005408' post='2926586']Just GOONS won't be enough, NationRuler. Your arrogance is unsurpassed.[/quote]

unsurpassed, with the exception of yourself, looks like.

[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330006889' post='2926612']
Seems everyone is forgetting Roguefest.
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I remember! :awesome:

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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330000481' post='2926532']
Do you realize the implicit irony in a policy where big nations threaten small nations with war is you won't be in range, basically, right? That's kind of why I was never for this kind of thing since it can't work.[/quote]
Are you sure you were paying attention when you were in Umbrella? How hard do you think it would be for Umbrella to convince GOONs to go fight a war? It could be initiated with a single PM to Sardonic that starts with "Please roll..."
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[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1330005408' post='2926586']
Just GOONS won't be enough, NationRuler. Your arrogance is unsurpassed.[/quote]
Are you sure? There was that one time we fought 14 alliances at the same time and then they all paid us reps.
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[right]Besides, the only way this makes sense either way is A) you only punish the offending nation in which case GOONs can handle that just fine and will absolutely "be enough," or B) you punish the entire alliance in which case all tiers will be necessary and MK and Umbrella get involved anyway. So what you're saying is nonsensical.
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[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330006889' post='2926612']
Seems everyone is forgetting Roguefest.
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What exactly happened at Roguefest that matters here? Unless you mean to agree with our fearsome might that time we defeated a zillion rogues at once.
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[quote name='Mr Gross' timestamp='1330003232' post='2926553']
I understand that there is some agenda here regarding UE but I am ignoring that because there is something logical here.

Thank having been said, I ask this: If an AA were to sign along on this idea is there any obligation from the other alliances? For example: Let us pretend that Umbrella signed along, and they hate GOONS and vice versa (this is fictional, remember). Later IRON gets stiffed on a tech deal. They ask GOONS for help because Umbrella lacks nations in range to hit the thief. Is GOONS required to help Umbrella despite the animosity between the two alliances?
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It is a policy IRON already practices and holds in belief. There is nothing GOONS needs to do. Adding our signature to something we already do by practice is no big deal to us.

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[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1330007507' post='2926627']

What exactly happened at Roguefest that matters here? Unless you mean to agree with our fearsome might that time we defeated a zillion rogues at once.
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After bringing in how many of your allies? The point I'm making is I don't believe GOONS has ever faced anyone alone, even when it could of been considered.

Also you "defeated" those alliances after receiving billions in aid to keep fighting. If anyone is gloating about it, it should be Umbrella.

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[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330010548' post='2926670']
After bringing in how many of your allies? The point I'm making is I don't believe GOONS has ever faced anyone alone, even when it could of been considered.

Also you "defeated" those alliances after receiving billions in aid to keep fighting. If anyone is gloating about it, it should be Umbrella.
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Hey we're writing the history here, loser.

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[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330010548' post='2926670']
After bringing in how many of your allies? The point I'm making is I don't believe GOONS has ever faced anyone alone, even when it could of been considered.

Also you "defeated" those alliances after receiving billions in aid to keep fighting. If anyone is gloating about it, it should be Umbrella.
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This whole "you guys would suck if you didn't have allies" thing is getting really old. What's your point? Everyone would suck without allies. Can you name anyone that would be able to withstand a war by themselves and win? The entire reason Doomhouse exists is so we don't have to run things alone. You don't fight GOONs, you fight Doomhouse. It's how it works in this world, dude. If anything, we overplay it just to piss people off. Because we can.
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[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1330011136' post='2926679']
This whole "you guys would suck if you didn't have allies" thing is getting really old. What's your point? Everyone would suck without allies. Can you name anyone that would be able to withstand a war by themselves and win? The entire reason Doomhouse exists is so we don't have to run things alone. You don't fight GOONs, you fight Doomhouse. It's how it works in this world, dude. If anything, we overplay it just to piss people off. Because we can.
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Guess what Legion can do, GOONS cannot.

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[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1330012335' post='2926689']
ahaha, I actually enjoyed this answer. Kudos to you!
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I'm here all day.

But to be fair, assembling a group of "alliances" to attack GOONS and then complaining that GOONS called in some of their friends could be construed as hypocritical in some courts.

Legion? There wouldn't be a single digit of NS in that place if they didn't have peace mode during that war.

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