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Look At Me. I Am The World's Worst Recipient of Leaked Information.

Posted by Ashoka the Great , 11 September 2011 · 261 views

I have two computers. The first is my brand new PC that I built this year and am continuing to fine tune. The other is a netbook I picked up a couple of years ago. I have it for those occasions when the missus hijacks my desktop because she wants to do something 'graphics intensive' like harvest in Farmville. *sigh*

Anyway....

The netbook came with WinXP, which I immediately removed and replaced with Ubuntu. I don't really store anything on it. It is solely for the purpose of connecting to the 'Net and doing a bit of surfing.

So imagine my surprise when I opened my 'Documents' folder for the first time in months and saw a folder labeled 'Cyber Nations'.

"Oooh," I thought. "What goodies lurk therein?"

It was mostly disappointing. Some war-related graphs from the last conflict, one of those war charts that shows who is being attacked by whom and, well, this:

http://img.photobuck...ions/erwhat.png

There are 'no no words' on this image. Don't say you weren't warned.

In this, we travel back eleven months to see a remarkably paranoid Xiphosis planning the end of his alliance. The only thing missing is the part where he blames everyone else for his problems and then gets married the day before he shoots himself in his underground bunker.

Some high points:

- "CnG is basically worthless"
- "....go in hard on NPO and disband them. Outright."

And once again we see this idea of alliances 'defecting'. In Xiph-speak, it means they're no longer a chain away from backing up his sad excuse for an alliance. Boo freaking hoo.

What's surprising to me is that no one jumps in and says, "This is a really stupid idea."

There's Liz from CSN, basically agreeing with whatever Xiphosis proposes because CSN is totally not a GOD puppet.

Goose likes the idea, says WickedJ likes to run his mouth, and then backtracks when he realizes it's a really stupid idea. It's like a written train-of-thought. Clearly he needs an editor, if only to avoid saying what amounts to "I like it" and "I don't like it" in the same damn post.

R&R and RIA seem to be trying to speak to Xiphosis as one would take to a guy cradling a loaded firearm.

But you know what really shocks me? It's not that they have such little respect for supposed friends and allies. No, what makes me pause is the fact that they speak so poorly of their own bloc. As someone who is now a lowly ordinary member of Nordreich, I'd be a bit dismayed if I learned that the leaders of Mj pretty much agreed that everyone in it kinda sucked.

Is it exciting? I've no idea. Parts of it are very, very funny. To me, at least.

No clue who gave this to me or when I received it. It may have come from CNtel. Or not. (I'm not registered there, and the quality of what I've seen coming out of there is pretty crappy, so probably not.)

I could turn on my netbook and check the date when it was created, but the netbook must be at least ten feet away. That sin't gonna happen.

This would have been much more exciting if I were posting it sometime in the third week of October in 2010. Half-way through September of the following year, it's not terribly relevant but good for a chuckle or two. By now much of this -- Xiphosis' feelings toward GOONS, the NPO, CnG and anyone who thinks he's a clown -- are rather well known.

So, if the parties involved would like to declare me a spy for receiving information and releasing it publicly well after it's of any real interest to anyone but some kind of CN historian, I believe my official response is: "Suck it."




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Omniscient1
Sep 11 2011 08:23 PM
hmm, I saw Xiph predicting his own demise and then coming up with the idea that Umbrella and MK delivered on (without of course the disbandment part. That seems to just be a Xiph thing though :P ). Interesting stuff though.

I wonder if/when people come knocking on GOD's door if Xiph is truly willing to "go down with the ship so to speak." I've seen it mentioned several times, and now recently in this leak he mentions himself. Although it'd be pretty cool and heroic and all, from his perspective, it just strikes me as not a move Xiph would make.
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Gibsonator21
Sep 11 2011 08:37 PM
This is old lol. It leaked months ago.
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Ashoka the Great
Sep 11 2011 08:40 PM
I figured as much. Just wondering why I didn't notice that I had it until today.

(btw....my curiosity got the better of me, so I made the arduous walk to my netbook. I've had this file since January of this year. Still no clue where I got it, though.)
Forcing an alliance to disband because they are political rivals is legitimate, in my book. Course, few alliance leaders would take such a PR hit for saying so.

But, for the most part, I agree with the rest of the critique you leveled.
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Arcturus Jefferson
Sep 11 2011 09:21 PM
I'm a big fan of paranoia but you have to be smart about it.
You're so rolled.
Do not speak ill of glorious SF.
I remember seeing this a while ago. It's always hilarious to see Xiph talking about his sides and people "defecting".
This love affair is so stale.
So, with the exception of Sparta, it looks like Xiph was entirely right about the people who were previously tied in with us SF/CnG/PB who would fight on the other side in the next war. I don't really see the point other than applauding Xiph for his perception.
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Emperor Marx
Sep 12 2011 04:53 AM
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Ashoka the Great
Sep 12 2011 05:38 AM

You're so rolled.


I know. :(

I remember seeing this a while ago. It&'s always hilarious to see Xiph talking about his sides and people "defecting".


Alright, so how come everyone remembers this but me?

/me looks at pill bottle of 'morning' meds

"Side effects include a hopeless blurring of the years."

Ah.


So, with the exception of Sparta, it looks like Xiph was entirely right about the people who were previously tied in with us SF/CnG/PB who would fight on the other side in the next war. I don't really see the point other than applauding Xiph for his perception.


1. Predict who will 'abandon' you.
2. Do your best to alienate them.
3. When you are 'abandoned', say I told you so.

Hmmm....there's something wrong with this model, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

I do note, however that 4/9 of the alliances are Nordreich and close allies of Nordreich. I can't think of a single thing* Xiphosis has done to intentionally antagonize us since our reformation.

You should probably retire as an apologist. This gem, along with the quote in my signature, would tend to indicate you're not really up to the job.





* - That's because I can think of at least two things.
Interesting to note that Ragnarok government is completely absent from the conversation... I can't say as to why because I wasn't in RoK or gov at the time, but it certainly says something about the level of communication between us and our former allies.
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deth2munkies
Sep 12 2011 06:34 AM
lol, I found my old signature, some random funny IRC comments, and a bunch of old logs from LoSS on my desktop a few days ago.

I love finding old gems :)
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Ashoka the Great
Sep 12 2011 09:07 AM
And then today someone send me these links, if only to prove how bad I am at this:


http://i.imgur.com/B...r.com/B7Vq8.png - "If any of this finds it's [sic] way around CN I will personally never put anything up on SF ever again...."

Something tells me that this was an empty threat.

http://i.imgur.com/q...r.com/qEVzg.png

http://i.imgur.com/C...r.com/CPHVc.png

http://i.imgur.com/r...r.com/rndLd.png

http://i.imgur.com/ThxC5.png - "It's my personal opinion [which I think will come to be validated in the coming year or so] that NoR is recruiting alliances, particularly within NOIR, to their own web which they can pull with them to the other side in the event of a war they think is winnable against us."

First, I need to get something off my chest. Despite being a self-declared 'writer', Xiphosis' work is littered with basic grammatical errors.

Second, lol. Seriously, lol. Let's ignore the paranoia for a moment and speak about a little place I like to call 'Reality'. Since Nordreich's Reformation, our priority has been to look after our own interests. Period. There's been no plotting to isolate GOD or, indeed, any other alliance. As I've said many times before, if Xiphosis wants to find the cause of GOD's problems, the best place to start is a mirror. The gems found in many of these images is proof of that.

http://i.imgur.com/5...r.com/5r6Tu.png
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flak attack
Sep 12 2011 11:14 AM

The only thing missing is the part where he blames everyone else for his problems


He does this. It's at the top of his first post where he blames GOONS
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Schattenmann
Sep 12 2011 11:24 AM
I'm kind of disappointed, as I read the intro, I thought this was going to be the EphriamGrey mental breakdown post that was mysteriously deleted from your photobucket.

No clue who gave this to me or when I received it. It may have come from CNtel. Or not. (I'm not registered there, and the quality of what I've seen coming out of there is pretty crappy, so probably not.)

I could turn on my netbook and check the date when it was created, but the netbook must be at least ten feet away. That sin't gonna happen.

The answer to this question probably lies in the inexplicably-highlighted 'm' in EgoFreaky's post. Looks like a canary trap.
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supercoolyellow
Sep 12 2011 12:13 PM
I could teach you lessons on how to do this Zog ;)
I'm glad to have never been in a bloc which had discussions along those lines. Man.
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Omniscient1
Sep 12 2011 01:06 PM

Since Nordreich's Reformation, our priority has been to look after our own interests. Period. There's been no plotting to isolate GOD or, indeed, any other alliance. As I've said many times before, if Xiphosis wants to find the cause of GOD's problems, the best place to start is a mirror. The gems found in many of these images is proof of that.


Ok I know I'll just be called a "Xiph apologist" or w/e, but just being fair you guys did form a block with 3 NOIR alliances, a former SF member who Xiph probably feels like you stole from him, (especially considering according to some people the last straw was asking RoK to drop you guys and Polar) and Valhalla an alliance that has said several times they dislike Xiph and were known to be fairly angry over Xiph's troll incident (yea I would have been too). So if I was Xiph, I would have probably came to the same conclusion as well.
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Emperor Whimsical
Sep 12 2011 01:11 PM
These are from december..
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Ashoka the Great
Sep 12 2011 01:58 PM

I'm kind of disappointed, as I read the intro, I thought this was going to be the EphriamGrey mental breakdown post that was mysteriously deleted from your photobucket.


Oh wow. Haven't thought about that one in a very long time. Still don't know why that was deleted. I guess he sent an e-mail to Photobucket saying, "I'm crazy and say so in this forum post. but I don't want this guy to have it."

I could teach you lessons on how to do this Zog ;)


Perhaps, but I'm not sure the lesson would 'take'. I have no problem keeping secrets, but the whole skullduggery thing is lost on me.

These are from december..


Yes, yes they are.

I'm glad to have never been in a bloc which had discussions along those lines. Man.


That's what I took from it as well. To think SF & CDT were related at one point.
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Ashoka the Great
Sep 12 2011 02:12 PM
Oh, and....

Since Nordreich's Reformation, our priority has been to look after our own interests. Period. There's been no plotting to isolate GOD or, indeed, any other alliance. As I've said many times before, if Xiphosis wants to find the cause of GOD's problems, the best place to start is a mirror. The gems found in many of these images is proof of that.

Ok I know I'll just be called a "Xiph apologist" or w/e, but just being fair you guys did form a block with 3 NOIR alliances, a former SF member who Xiph probably feels like you stole from him, (especially considering according to some people the last straw was asking RoK to drop you guys and Polar) and Valhalla an alliance that has said several times they dislike Xiph and were known to be fairly angry over Xiph's troll incident (yea I would have been too). So if I was Xiph, I would have probably came to the same conclusion as well.


Correlation is not causation. RoK and GOD/SF might still be pals if Xiphosis hadn't gone the high-risk gambit route. Had he not done that, his position would be considerably more secure than it (apparently) is now.

I don't know what the final straw was in the RoK-GOD/SF relationship. Neither am I aware of everything that happened before RoK's withdrawal. I can't imagine that it eroded owing solely to a treaty between Nordreich and Ragnarok.

Many of our relationships with NOIR members -- and leaders of NOIR alliances -- pre-dated the formation of Nordreich and its admission to that economic bloc. (This is particularly true with respect to DT.)

The Valhalla treaty was first broached by Bud (in Val) not long after our reformation. Not much came of our conversations, which didn't so much end as fizzle. Then we found ourselves fighting them in a war, and there we were speaking again. It's not the first time friendships were formed during a war. It likely won't be the last.

Except for the ongoing conspiracy that exists solely in the mind of one person, GOD has been surprisingly absent from Nordreich's foreign affairs discussions. Perhaps this is some kind of 'meta' game that Xiphosis is playing: RL < CN < XiphWorld. His world seems like a very scary place, though, so I'm rather glad not to be a part of it.

I don't know what the final straw was in the RoK-GOD/SF relationship. Neither am I aware of everything that happened before RoK's withdrawal. I can't imagine that it eroded owing solely to a treaty between Nordreich and Ragnarok.

I can confirm (and so can many posts on the OWF) that the NoR treaty, while being a contributing point to the worsening of relations, was not the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Omniscient1
Sep 12 2011 03:40 PM

Oh, and....

Since Nordreich's Reformation, our priority has been to look after our own interests. Period. There's been no plotting to isolate GOD or, indeed, any other alliance. As I've said many times before, if Xiphosis wants to find the cause of GOD's problems, the best place to start is a mirror. The gems found in many of these images is proof of that.

Ok I know I'll just be called a &amp;quot;Xiph apologist&amp;quot; or w/e, but just being fair you guys did form a block with 3 NOIR alliances, a former SF member who Xiph probably feels like you stole from him, (especially considering according to some people the last straw was asking RoK to drop you guys and Polar) and Valhalla an alliance that has said several times they dislike Xiph and were known to be fairly angry over Xiph's troll incident (yea I would have been too). So if I was Xiph, I would have probably came to the same conclusion as well.

Correlation is not causation. RoK and GOD/SF might still be pals if Xiphosis hadn't gone the high-risk gambit route. Had he not done that, his position would be considerably more secure than it (apparently) is now.I don't know what the final straw was in the RoK-GOD/SF relationship. Neither am I aware of everything that happened before RoK's withdrawal. I can't imagine that it eroded owing solely to a treaty between Nordreich and Ragnarok.Many of our relationships with NOIR members -- and leaders of NOIR alliances -- pre-dated the formation of Nordreich and its admission to that economic bloc. (This is particularly true with respect to DT.)The Valhalla treaty was first broached by Bud (in Val) not long after our reformation. Not much came of our conversations, which didn't so much end as fizzle. Then we found ourselves fighting them in a war, and there we were speaking again. It's not the first time friendships were formed during a war. It likely won't be the last.Except for the ongoing conspiracy that exists solely in the mind of one person, GOD has been surprisingly absent from Nordreich's foreign affairs discussions. Perhaps this is some kind of 'meta' game that Xiphosis is playing: RL &lt; CN &lt; XiphWorld. His world seems like a very scary place, though, so I'm rather glad not to be a part of it.


Oh yea I can agree with most of the things. I was just pointing out from his point of view it wouldn't look extremely off base. Then again I guess I'm over paranoid myself and crazy.
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Gibsonator21
Sep 12 2011 04:10 PM

Interesting to note that Ragnarok government is completely absent from the conversation... I can't say as to why because I wasn't in RoK or gov at the time, but it certainly says something about the level of communication between us and our former allies.


Dunno. Ask the delegates at the time. The thread was visible to them.
Intel from 9 months ago is boring, post new things please.

1. Predict who will 'abandon' you.2. Do your best to alienate them.3. When you are 'abandoned', say I told you so.Hmmm....there's something wrong with this model, but I can't quite put my finger on it.I do note, however that 4/9 of the alliances are Nordreich and close allies of Nordreich. I can't think of a single thing* Xiphosis has done to intentionally antagonize us since our reformation.You should probably retire as an apologist. This gem, along with the quote in my signature, would tend to indicate you're not really up to the job.* - That's because I can think of at least two things.

All the quote in your signature does is inform the rest of the world that you have no idea what the word "literally" means.

Interesting to note that Ragnarok government is completely absent from the conversation... I can't say as to why because I wasn't in RoK or gov at the time, but it certainly says something about the level of communication between us and our former allies.

Dunno. Ask the delegates at the time. The thread was visible to them.

And judging from the fact that their new bloc-mates have gotten a hold of it, I'd say it's pretty obvious they were aware of it, too.
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Ashoka the Great
Sep 12 2011 07:27 PM

All the quote in your signature does is inform the rest of the world that you have no idea what the word &quot;literally&quot; means.


Mmmm, a fancily dressed up 'No U'. Purty.

And judging from the fact that their new bloc-mates have gotten a hold of it, I'd say it's pretty obvious they were aware of it, too.


You really are quite obtuse.

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