Seerow Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Literally becoming the monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinoa Rex Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1289283509' post='2507422'] "Even we know that the sum is too high, but if you don't pay it, we'll attack." [/quote] The salient point is that NSO agreed to the sum, then cried and moaned about it in public instead of saying "no, but how about this instead?", like any negotiator with more than a thimble of prudence would. Edited November 9, 2010 by Quinoa Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heggo Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) I guess the cost of speaking out against admitted errors is 12 million and 200 tech now. My sincerest apologies for my government having forced you to apologize by having revealed that you have something to apologize over. I'm not wholly sure by what logic you can admit you were wrong in your exorbitant demand for reparations but then demand they be paid anyway, but perhaps it makes more sense when you're holding your logic's recipient at the point of a sword. Still, extortion is extortion and I'll accept the option from, if you'll excuse my use of MK's rhetoric, “pay up or blow up” which least resembles suicide. If anyone doubts me, take a look at my aid screen. By the by, if posting raw logs and a tad bit of the truth are all it takes to constitute a "PR assault" against MK these days, I recommend MK's government shape up rather than just rely on having to pull Archon back into active duty whenever they get themselves into a bind. Edited November 9, 2010 by heggo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 May we triumph swiftly and decidedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Oh boy oh boy I am so excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord GVChamp Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='Quinoa Rex' timestamp='1289283682' post='2507438'] The salient point is that NSO agreed to the sum, then cried and moaned about it in public instead of saying "no, but how about this instead?", like any negotiator with a more than a thimble of prudence would. [/quote] So your problem is that someone ratted out your bullying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) I, for one, am a bit disappointed, Archon. Not just in the disingenuous tone you've taken in those post. But the fact that you've made your presence known only for the sake of exploiting your hard-earned friendships in order to bail your subordinates out of a sizable PR debacle. How underwhelming, I didn't know you considered your friends to be so cheap. Edited November 9, 2010 by Chron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o ya baby Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='heggo' timestamp='1289283691' post='2507439'] I guess the cost of speaking out against admitted errors is 12 million and 200 tech now. My sincerest apologies for my government having forced you to apologize by having revealed that you have something to apologize over. I'm not wholly sure by what logic you can admit you were wrong in your exorbitant demand for reparations but then demand they be paid anyway, but perhaps it makes more sense when you're holding your logic's recipient at the point of a sword. Still, extortion is extortion and I'll accept the option from, if you'll excuse my use of MK's rhetoric, “pay up or blow up” which least resembles suicide. If anyone doubts me, take a look at my aid screen. By the by, if posting raw logs and a tad bit of the truth are all it takes to constitute a "PR assault" against MK these days, I recommend MK's government shape up rather than just rely on having to pull Archon back into active duty whenever they get themselves into a bind. [/quote] you aren't really this dense, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i surge i Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well that was fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) So your solution to the PR nightmare that your wayward princes have hamhandedly precipitated while daddy's at work with their extortion is [i][b]not[/b][/i] to correct the situation by doing the best thing in your power--settling for the 3/50 you already got which is more than you lost--but to change the reason of the extortion from a bad trade to speaking their minds on the OWF? Howwwwwwdy-doody, Hegemony 2.0 and just-as-bad-as-NPO jokes! It's like we got into a time capsule and traveled back to 2007/2008. Hold on for a second! I want to get my picture taken with HordeofDoom and Josef Thorne while we're here! This crap writes itself, my hands can't keep up! This is a pathetic joke. Edited November 9, 2010 by Schattenmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I... meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Haha, how quickly they rush to pay when they see we're serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='heggo' timestamp='1289283691' post='2507439'] By the by, if posting raw logs and a tad bit of the truth are all it takes to constitute a "PR assault" against MK these days, I recommend MK's government shape up rather than just rely on having to pull Archon back into active duty whenever they get themselves into a bind. [/quote] Don't be dense, Heggo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRena Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 You where quick to get the first few comments from MK members I see. Atleast you are finally admitting to taking needless ammounts of money by force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 If Rebel Virginia were the Emperor of the New Sith Order and held final say in all such issues then you would have a point. But he has a boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalasin Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) http://www.cybernations.net/search_aid.asp?search=29691&Extended=1 xfd As was just pointed out in #mushroom - look how quickly NSO paid up when they realised MK was serious Edit: God dammit, ninja'd. Edited November 9, 2010 by Kalasin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1289283868' post='2507451'] Don't be dense, Heggo. [/quote] Im just amazed that you consider running to Archon to clean up your mess before !@#$ hits the fan to be some kind of exercise in political skill. Don't be dense? How about you stop riding other people's coattails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='Chron' timestamp='1289283798' post='2507445'] I, for one, am a bit disappointed, Archon. Not just in the disingenuous tone you've taken in those post. But the fact that you've made your presence known only for the sake of exploiting your hard-earned friendships in order to bail your subordinates out of a sizable PR debacle. How underwhelming, I didn't know you considered your friends to be so cheap. [/quote] Coming from NSO, this is surely a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o ya baby Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 talk big and you get slapped back into your place. that's the way of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1289283963' post='2507457'] Coming from NSO, this is surely a joke. [/quote] I don't seem to recall any instances of us trotting out Ivan from the retirement pasture just to try and appeal to the better nature of folks who we've alienated with our shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavaricar Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Speak negatively in public about the Mushroom Kingdom? "That'll be $12,000,000 and 250 tech, pls." How cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacapo Saladin Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 MK should probably Lrn2Government so that Archon doesn't have to keep mopping up these messes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='Chron' timestamp='1289283946' post='2507455'] Im just amazed that you consider running to Archon to clean up your mess before !@#$ hits the fan to be some kind of exercise in political skill. Don't be dense? How about you stop riding other people's coattails? [/quote] Sorry, I would have resorted to dumping logs but that just seems to be the thing to do these days and I like to stay fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1289283874' post='2507452'] You where quick to get the first few comments from MK members I see. [/quote] Sorry. I'm not a huge fan of amsg (due to the crying and queries it elicits) and, in my sequence of posting the announcement in various channels, I started in MK channels as they were at the top of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1289283587' post='2507428'] So the deal was a !@#$ deal. you admit its a !@#$ deal but because NSO is in no position to argue RV accepted the deal and then informed the OWF of how wonderful of an alliance you are. so now he hurt your precious PR you're going to continue to demand the money? Ah well, quite sad it didnt even take this long to !@#$ all over that Karma thing [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]Pretty much this. MK thinks its the victim because I exposed their naked flaws before the world. I showed people the ugly face behind MK's mask of faux honor and respectability - a face they've tried so hard to stay blind to for as long as they have. And the truth is neither I nor the NSO did any wrong here. I did what anyone in my position should have done. I exposed heavy handed dealings in backrooms before the public. I prevented them from hiding their ugliness behind their veil of private channels, and it stands before everyone. MK believes that speaking against them is now a crime. I've seen this before, and I fought against it then. Call me a fool and an idealist, but I am not going to bow out of fear, and I am not going to be held silent out of fear of reprisal. The world not only deserved to know what I shared with it, it needed to know. Now there is no excuse. No one is ignorant now.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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