JohnKirk Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Walford Chris Kaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 CN is full of under-rated leaders. Here's a few that I've worked with. empirica: One of the best leaders in this game, period. ZBaldwin: He has a decent amount of recognition as Regent of Polaris, but his work in the Internal Affairs department was nothing short of amazing. IA guys really don't get much foreign recognition of course. Jphillips: He has decent recognition in Polar as a Financial leader, but his work as a diplomat is often unknown. The guy is just plain good. Grenvel: Best Propagandist ever. Anyway, those are the ones that stick out in my mind. There's tons more I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhysicsJunky Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 We're talking about underrated players Steelrat gets all the fame he deserves (and rightfully so) I would have put him down as underrated myself, his name was often brought up tangentially in Gramlins discussions for a long time since you had so many other names the eclipsed him. (perhaps I'm a little biased, he always answered my PMs with a fidelity that made me feel special) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corrupt Teacher Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'd definitely throw Dan123123 in the mix for most underrated. I agree with this statement 200% yes 200% also Nite is pretty underrated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmerwald1915 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Ome Harry (Uncly Harry) is heavily underrated. Ask RoK, they adore him! They're not the only ones I'm gonna give a shout-out to The Mongol Swedes for FA. The man puts some serious effort into what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Chill I Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Janax ENI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Ying Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 GoFastLeft, gotta love the man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 moshea is a great alliance leader but not well known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiper Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Jphillips: He has decent recognition in Polar as a Financial leader, but his work as a diplomat is often unknown. The guy is just plain good. As a financial leader, I have nothing but respect for his diplomatic work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaone Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I would have put him down as underrated myself, his name was often brought up tangentially in Gramlins discussions for a long time since you had so many other names the eclipsed him.(perhaps I'm a little biased, he always answered my PMs with a fidelity that made me feel special) I already put him on my list in the other thread, so back off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 We're talking about underrated players Steelrat gets all the fame he deserves (and rightfully so) I would put Hell, but he is already know, thus I agree with his posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzyzewskiville Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Definitely Atlashill. He has always had a good supporting cast, too, but he's done damn well for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Tulak Hord, even if he is a kiwi. You too deserve a spot on this list good sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Off the top of my head, I'd say Mixoux would definitely be one of the ones that fall under the category of underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 A lot of the alliance leadership positions really shouldn't need to be "big name" people. If you're in charge of any variety of internal processes it really doesn't matter how popular or famous you are outside of your alliance. Most of our best organizers, financiers, generals and other positions that deal with internal affairs never achieve recognition outside of our boards because they are too busy working hard to socialize with the rest of you. When I see a list filled to the brim with famous people and type A personalities that the starstruck suggester probably has never interacted with on any level to make a fair judgment, I chuckle to myself at how much of a disaster that alliance would be. Not only would most of those leaders be unable to tolerate the others for more than a few days, but they'd be such a mixed bag of political preferences, contacts, loyalties and approaches to foreign policy that the alliance would collapse in on itself internally even as the rest of the world fell madly in love with them. Couldn't have said it better myself. Many of the best players in the game receive little to no recognition outside of their own alliance. To use an example from my own alliance - Thaliak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomede Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 empirica: One of the best leaders in this game, period.True that. Come to think of it I've not talked to her in months. :/ Mixoux and GoFastLeft are also good choices. I remember Jaguar1 in NpO being a great interior guy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Kryievla is pretty underrated outside of the Purple sphere. MK has an absurd amount of underrated players who dont get the praise they observe. Basically, if you are MK gov, you are the best at what you do regardless of whether your name is "Archon." (Not that Archon isnt anazing) I was fearing someone would invoque the "Except potato" clause. It took 10 minutes Except Potato. I refuse to believe he's the best at anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasmic Descent Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 IA: Heracles the Great Isnt Heracles FA not IA? and, agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I was fearing someone would invoque the "Except potato" clause. It took 10 minutes It's more of a Potato Doctrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Isnt Heracles FA not IA?and, agreed Well now I suppose he would be but he was the best IA person Atlantis had, and he started off as IA leader in Kronos. I would choose him for IA out of anybody in CN Edited October 3, 2009 by Drai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Dewsos hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarikmo Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Vilien of TMF is my pick. Edited October 3, 2009 by Tarikmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 A.S.F.W. Long gone now (or retired under another name, not sure), but his IA skills helped forge a band of new players into a legit alliance, and with no prior information or advice on nation building, created a very efficient aidfall system for its time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Couldn't have said it better myself. Many of the best players in the game receive little to no recognition outside of their own alliance. To use an example from my own alliance - Thaliak. Indeed. The vast majority of people with skill in IA/Econ don't get widespread recognition regardless of how skilled they are. Military is a bit better because of the number of people that like to tout the military genius of themselves or others, but even there it pales in comparison to the people who work in FA or lead the alliance. Fame has more to do with being the public face of an alliance, and an alliance of spokesmen is going to have some difficulty functioning optimally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 That Cheyenne guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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