starschwar Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Moon Locations Tested: Lat Lon Effectiveness 56 -22 71% Possible Locations for the Moon Hotspot: Moon Lat Moon Lon Probability Observed In 33 -72 47.07521% 33 -71 37.77841% 33 -73 15.14638% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Got it. &lat=33&lon=-72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin One Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Moon Locations Tested: Lat Lon Effectiveness 33 -72 50% Lots of <2% possibilities based on last month's coordinates. I'll share this info with the Mars thread, should help narrow things down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilcroft Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Based on the Mars coordinates, it should be: Moon Lat Moon Lon -17.99999998 178 URL Segment: &lat=-17.99999998&lon=178 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Confirmed, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandystalin Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Confirmed 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilcroft Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Based on Mars, best guesses for the moon for April... Moon Lat Moon Lon Probability 32 -73 50.58728% 33 -73 32.24045% 33 -72 17.17227% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Wilcroft said: Based on Mars, best guesses for the moon for April... Moon Lat Moon Lon Probability 32 -73 50.58728% 33 -73 32.24045% 33 -72 17.17227% It's Lat=33, Lon=-72. (The other two give 99%.) URL Segment: &lat=33&lon=-72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Confirmed - no foolin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Myrhh Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 LOL. Good pun starschwar. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilcroft Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Possible moon locations for May: Moon Lat Moon Lon Probability -69.99999999 68 89.90823% -70.99999999 67 8.61481% -69.99999999 67 1.47696% The first one corresponds with the Mars location, so it should be correct. Others listed just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 &lat=-69.99999999&lon=68 results in 100% effectiveness confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 &lat=-69.99999999&lon=68 confirmed here as well. On the other hand, anathema, curse and eternal execration for my browser that "autonomously" decided to screw up my Base movement. I wish it to forever suffer and burn in the worst corner of software Inferno. (Or maybe not, as I still need it! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) A 50% point strategy: TL;DR: If you only have 50% points, try these: -46, -131 46, -153 This is ONLY for the case where no points have been found with >50% effectiveness. Otherwise just use the moon & mars hotspot finder google sheet. As always, check the mars thread cause they may have found a >50% point on their end which also eliminates the need to use this strategy. Here are 2 good points to try if only 50% effectiveness points have been found: -46, -131 (moon southern hemisphere test point) 46, -153 (moon northern hemisphere test point) Do NOT use these points on Mars. If you try both of these points, it's guaranteed that at least one of them will be >50%, no matter where the hotspot is or what month it is. Even if you're starting with literally zero information, 2 guesses is all it takes to get a point that's >50% and then things go fast from there. If you already have a 50% point, try the test point in the opposite hemisphere first. If you already have 50% points in both hemispheres, try entering them into the google sheet, eyeball which hemisphere has more possible hotspots, and try the test point in that hemisphere. Or just pick the southern hemisphere point if that's too much work. It's not the most optimal strategy, but it only takes 2 guesses max and doesn't require any extra math cause it's always the exact same 2 points every single month. Note: Neither of these points are possible hotspots. They won't come up 100%. But if you only have 50% points, the chance of getting lucky and getting 100% is very small anyway, so it's better to maximize your chance of finding a >50% point instead which allows you to find the hotspot with fewer guesses. More details if you're curious: These are the points in each hemisphere that have the lowest chance of coming up 50% if you're starting with no information. The southern hemisphere point has a 34.94% chance of coming 50% and the northern hemisphere point has a 39.76% chance of coming up 50%. The northern hemisphere point is actually tied with 5 other northern hemisphere points with the same chance of 50%, which are (47, -156), (46, -154), (45 -151), (44 -149), (43, -147). Just pick one of the 6 northern hemisphere points. There's no need to try them all. If the southern hemisphere point does come up 50%, it actually eliminates ALL the possible hotspots in the southern hemisphere plus some of the northern hemisphere points near the equator, leaving only 479 possible hotspots, all of which are in the northern hemisphere. Likewise, if the northern hemisphere point does come up 50%, it actually eliminates ALL the possible hotspots in the northern hemisphere plus some of the ones in the southern hemisphere near the equator, leaving only 482 possible hotspots, all of which are in the southern hemisphere. Both of the points won't come up 50%, cause that would eliminate all the possible hotspots. Edited May 4, 2020 by Luna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Update for May 2020: Moon & Mars Hotspot Finder I'm trying something new with this update. Through the power of protected ranges, the cells for entering test points (i.e. the ones in the two boxes surrounded by borders) are now editable by everyone. Hopefully that helps with collaboration, since everyone can be using the same google sheet. There's always the option of making a private copy (File -> Make a copy) just like before if you prefer that instead. After you've entered your tests points (or someone else entered test points) give it a few seconds to calculate. It may give strange results while it's calculating, but everything should be fine once it's done. Let me know if you find any problems with the spreadsheet, or have any questions or comments. The moon hotspot affects the mars hotspot a LOT, and vice versa. In fact if one hotspot is found, the number of possibilities for the other one is reduced to 4 maximum (often fewer), and because of the skewed probability distribution, you can usually find the hotspot in 1 try. So definitely check out the other thread. Most people don't realize that the other celestial body affects them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Glaucon Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 When moving the Moon buildings, how do you place them exactly on the hotspot? Are you hand-entering a URL somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) On 5/21/2020 at 7:15 PM, Zombie Glaucon said: When moving the Moon buildings, how do you place them exactly on the hotspot? Are you hand-entering a URL somewhere? Simply move your moon base/mine/colony icon, right click the "relocate" link, copy and paste it into your browser's address bar, and replace the &lat and &lon values with the ones we come up with. Make sure you use the correct links if you do/don't want to recalculate population or change resources. Edited June 1, 2020 by starschwar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Moon Locations Tested: Mars Locations Tested: Lat Lon Effectiveness Lat Lon Effectiveness -69.99999999 68 91% -81 44 99% Made by Luna Last updated May 2020 Possible Locations for the Moon Hotspot: Possible Locations for the Mars Hotspot: Moon Lat Moon Lon Probability Observed In Mars Lat Mars Lon Probability Observed In -81 45 60.82722% 59 154 31.69663% -81 46 39.17278% 58 154 29.13059% 59 155 27.50193% 58 153 11.67085% Edited June 1, 2020 by starschwar Updated data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Update: &lat=-81&lon=45 produces 100% effectiveness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerschbs Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 7:15 PM, Zombie Glaucon said: When moving the Moon buildings, how do you place them exactly on the hotspot? Are you hand-entering a URL somewhere? Anyone have a good way to enter the moon base coordinates on a mobile phone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 5:09 PM, kerschbs said: Anyone have a good way to enter the moon base coordinates on a mobile phone? I gave up on that, but if you find out please let me know, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerschbs Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, jerdge said: I gave up on that, but if you find out please let me know, thanks! I gave up as well and got my laptop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starschwar Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Lots of ~1% possibilities from the old coordinates - let's see if the Mars thread is having better luck. Lat Lon Effectiveness -81 45 50% -81 44 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hob Dobson Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Tested: Lat Lon Effectiveness -81 44 50% 45 -45 76% 28 -83 56% ( first one was pre-coffee ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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