Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 POSSE/Clearwater Protectorate I. POSSE agrees to put Clearwater under their military and political protection.II. Clearwater agrees to discuss any potential treaties they sign with POSSE first while this Protectorate remains in effect III. Clearwater agrees to cooperate on the Senate by voting for the POSSE Senator. Signed for POSSE, Pjk11, Overseer Noctis Lucis Caelum, Triumvir of Foreign Affairs Alonso Quixano, Triumvir of War Signed for Clearwater, Loganherring, President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 "Protectorate of Sovereign Nations," I think you wrote the acronym wrong, fellow socialist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, Immortan Junka said: "Protectorate of Sovereign Nations," I think you wrote the acronym wrong, fellow socialist! I wasn't trying to replicate our acronym, it was descriptive of this treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) May producerists, libertarians and socialists march forward together in friendship! o/ Edited March 14, 2017 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarx Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Congrats to our friends at POSSE for their new protectorate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Congratulations yall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Wes Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Congrats Clearwater on your new protectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterchief777 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Awesome pick for new protectors. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadochi Von Seleucids Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: May producerists, libertarians and socialists march forward together in friendship! o/ Short quote from the Preface of "An Agorist Primer, "When someone urges you to be realistic, may you pick an agorist book to get the best descrip-tion you can find of how agorism actually works.If you want to find books and articles that will“fake reality” for wishes, whims, fears, and spite,look for labels such as “Liberal,” “Conservative,”“Socialist,” “Communist,” “Fascist,” or — worst of all — “middle of the road” and “moderate.”Reality knows no moderation; i tis— all the way. One way of thinking came close to agorism and is fairly well-known today; we will deal with Libertarianism later in some detail. An ideology of Liberty, it had to choose at one point between consistency with reality and being the “politics of liberty.” It chose the latter: the contradiction of seeking political power over others to eliminate political power over others. Those who continued to seek liberty consistently and without the practical contradiction of Libertarians became agorists. This is a second historical definition for you.Agorism is an ideology, then, but it is also a scientific and definitely materialist way of thinking.It is not a religious view — save that it believes absolute freedom to be moral — nor does it wish to displace anyone’s religious views — unless they lead to slavery. Agorism wants no “true believers”in the sense of blind followers. Like any scientifically based mode of thought, it will evolve as does our understanding of reality. One who has faith in something proven false that was once a tenet of agorism is not an agorist" Agorism promotes a counter economy rather than dependence on government printed money and doesn't violate the Non-Aggression Principle, despite being a left idealogy in the sense of inga rigged economy as part of the problem. Agorists choose to promote Counter Economic Behavior rather than dependence on Federal Reserve Printed Money, which values is based on a very shaky concept of people having faith in a currency with nothing to back it. Although many on the left propose increasing the scope of the source of the great inequality in money.."People have discovered and acted in a Counter-Economic way without understanding what they are doing, why they are doing it, and even denying that they are doingit at all.Understanding what you are doing usually helps, and applying Counter-Economics systematically and consistently maximizes both your profit and freedom. As it turns out, the basic formula is no more difficult than simple accounting arithmetic used in all business.The basic law of Counter-Economics is to trade risk for profit. Having done so, one naturally(acting to remove felt unease) attempts to reduce he risks. If you reduce your risks while others continue to face the higher risks, you naturally out-compete and survive longer. And you profit." You should give Agorism a read: http://www.kopubco.com/pdf/An_Agorist_Primer_by_SEK3.pdf I believe in the Non-Aggression Principle and maximizing freedom, when you speak of Libertarianism as the least important of your idealogies; I'm not so sure Freedom is an important concept to you or you're just trying to use Libertarianism like the Author of Agorism speaks of the labels Liberal, Conservative, Socialist, Communist, Fascist or moderate. I think idealogy boils down to whether you believe in maximizing freedom for everyone or not; how you believe it should be done comes secondary to that. Edit: Also thank you to everyone for the well wishes. Edited March 14, 2017 by Noctis Lucis Caelum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roal36 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Congrats Clearwater. I didn't know you guys were still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Seems like déjà vu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) On 3/14/2017 at 7:43 AM, Noctis Lucis Caelum said: Short quote from the Preface of "An Agorist Primer, "When someone urges you to be realistic, may you pick an agorist book to get the best descrip-tion you can find of how agorism actually works.If you want to find books and articles that will“fake reality” for wishes, whims, fears, and spite,look for labels such as “Liberal,” “Conservative,”“Socialist,” “Communist,” “Fascist,” or — worst of all — “middle of the road” and “moderate.”Reality knows no moderation; i tis— all the way. One way of thinking came close to agorism and is fairly well-known today; we will deal with Libertarianism later in some detail. An ideology of Liberty, it had to choose at one point between consistency with reality and being the “politics of liberty.” It chose the latter: the contradiction of seeking political power over others to eliminate political power over others. Those who continued to seek liberty consistently and without the practical contradiction of Libertarians became agorists. This is a second historical definition for you.Agorism is an ideology, then, but it is also a scientific and definitely materialist way of thinking.It is not a religious view — save that it believes absolute freedom to be moral — nor does it wish to displace anyone’s religious views — unless they lead to slavery. Agorism wants no “true believers”in the sense of blind followers. Like any scientifically based mode of thought, it will evolve as does our understanding of reality. One who has faith in something proven false that was once a tenet of agorism is not an agorist" Agorism promotes a counter economy rather than dependence on government printed money and doesn't violate the Non-Aggression Principle, despite being a left idealogy in the sense of inga rigged economy as part of the problem. Agorists choose to promote Counter Economic Behavior rather than dependence on Federal Reserve Printed Money, which values is based on a very shaky concept of people having faith in a currency with nothing to back it. Although many on the left propose increasing the scope of the source of the great inequality in money.."People have discovered and acted in a Counter-Economic way without understanding what they are doing, why they are doing it, and even denying that they are doingit at all.Understanding what you are doing usually helps, and applying Counter-Economics systematically and consistently maximizes both your profit and freedom. As it turns out, the basic formula is no more difficult than simple accounting arithmetic used in all business.The basic law of Counter-Economics is to trade risk for profit. Having done so, one naturally(acting to remove felt unease) attempts to reduce he risks. If you reduce your risks while others continue to face the higher risks, you naturally out-compete and survive longer. And you profit." You should give Agorism a read: http://www.kopubco.com/pdf/An_Agorist_Primer_by_SEK3.pdf I believe in the Non-Aggression Principle and maximizing freedom, when you speak of Libertarianism as the least important of your idealogies; I'm not so sure Freedom is an important concept to you or you're just trying to use Libertarianism like the Author of Agorism speaks of the labels Liberal, Conservative, Socialist, Communist, Fascist or moderate. I think idealogy boils down to whether you believe in maximizing freedom for everyone or not; how you believe it should be done comes secondary to that. Edit: Also thank you to everyone for the well wishes. Anddddd it's confirmed as ....... Edited March 15, 2017 by Cress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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