Diadochi Von Seleucids Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Banned said: I see a lot of wars there that were peaced out very early, so would seem quite a jump to make such a universal claim that these guys all defended themselves. Some did, sure. And I expect that we'll see these same raiders, now that they're on the other end, do some fighting back of their own. I find it interesting how you presume them all as raiders when only 1 out of the 4 wars declared was on a nation that took part in raiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall14 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Supreme Emperor Daeg said: So you're saying it's just a case of bad lighting? Oh well then, A-team better turn up the lights... Wilco Green Flares will light up asap...I say again green flares and smoke, fire and brimstone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Best of luck Stonewall, glad to see ya back in action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall14 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Quote To: stonewall14 From: Diadochi Date: 2/11/2017 7:23:23 PM Subject: Spy Operation Attack Message: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. The attacking spies were given the following order: Target Weapons of Mass Destruction. In the attack your counter intelligence systems prevailed and managed to thwart the attack. Your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies. To: stonewall14 From: Diadochi Date: 2/11/2017 7:23:44 PM Subject: Spy Operation Attack Message: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. The attacking spies were given the following order: Target Weapons of Mass Destruction. In the attack your counter intelligence systems prevailed and managed to thwart the attack. Your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies. Well now brochacho that is provocative indeed looks like I need to break out the Apple Pie Moonshine to go with my Mexico's finest smoke tonight...Alpha Mike Foxtrot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Banned said: And yet you dislike this while you love that Alonso attacks alliances at will. Right. Let's not pretend you or Stonewall are doing this because you are anti-raiding. Alonso is clearly not even close to being in range of anyone in The A Team, so using his actions as an excuse seems petty. I would wish Stonewall luck with the alliance, but he's not off to a good start attacking my friends for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Emperor Daeg Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Good sir, while I may not speak on behalf of A-team I can assure you that we here at SLAP have a policy on raiding, If we raid you that is good and proper if you raid us... we kick your teeth down your neck, as is good and proper. I would think that A-teams actions also would indicate a pro-raiding leaning, as they seem to be raiding as we speak. I wouldn't wish for there to be any confusion as to our stance on a matter of such import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said: Let's not pretend you or Stonewall are doing this because you are anti-raiding. Alonso is clearly not even close to being in range of anyone in The A Team, so using his actions as an excuse seems petty. Why does range matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadochi Von Seleucids Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Why does range matter? Well if you are condemning for the actions of raiding and then not hitting the one who is raiding.... well now that appears of a bit of hypocrisy as you are "raiding" innocent nations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, Supreme Emperor Daeg said: Good sir, while I may not speak on behalf of A-team I can assure you that we here at SLAP have a policy on raiding, If we raid you that is good and proper if you raid us... we kick your teeth down your neck, as is good and proper. This is hilarious 'tough talk' from a guy who sat in a former alliance who disbanded rather than defended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Why does range matter? Why wouldn't it matter? They're not in range to fight the person who they use as an excuse. It just makes it clear what Alonso was doing had nothing to do with this, if anything it was a calculated move to form an alliance where he wouldn't be in range to fight anyone in "The A Team" They should be upfront they attacked because they thought they had the raid advantage in their NS tier, rather than make up other excuses. Edited February 12, 2017 by Noctis Lucis Caelum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall14 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: This is hilarious 'tough talk' from a guy who sat in a former alliance who disbanded rather than defended Learn your history grasshopper, Daeg, Caliph, me etc got extra terms from that very war so to question our honor that way is highly frowned upon in this thread brochacho...I appreciate the comraderie earlier but that don't mean we will be taking warm showers to wee hours of the morning...:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Diadochi Von Seleucids said: Well if you are condemning for the actions of raiding and then not hitting the one who is raiding.... well now that appears of a bit of hypocrisy as you are "raiding" innocent nations... In most of CN's history collective culpability has applied to alliances. This means that an entire alliance becomes a legitimate target for the actions of govt. I'm not saying that this is the reason for A-Team's raids... I don't speak for them. However I am saying that their raids are arguably legitimized by the fact that Alonso himself, as the apparent alliance sovereign, has been raiding other alliances. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." This is something members should be aware of. If PoSSE is trying to split the alliance between two AAs to limit backlash, all I can say there is that it doesn't really work looking at what happened with SPATR/Mongols. Edited February 12, 2017 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadochi Von Seleucids Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Well well well, now are you a kind fellow Stonewall. Attacking but another non-raiding nation simply for non-violent defense of his fellow members. I enjoy a yellow glowing sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said: Let's not pretend you or Stonewall are doing this because you are anti-raiding. Alonso is clearly not even close to being in range of anyone in The A Team, so using his actions as an excuse seems petty. I would wish Stonewall luck with the alliance, but he's not off to a good start attacking my friends for no reason. It was not I that first suggested these things were linked. Nor do I care if they are. I simply pointed out the irony of defending one action while attacking another. 41 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: This is hilarious 'tough talk' from a guy who sat in a former alliance who disbanded rather than defended I would point out that when DK disbaned, Daeg joined Last Call and got in the fight anyway. So, I guess I'm short to see quite what you're implying about him. 19 minutes ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said: Why wouldn't it matter? They're not in range to fight the person who they use as an excuse. It just makes it clear what Alonso was doing had nothing to do with this, if anything it was a calculated move to form an alliance where he wouldn't be in range to fight anyone in "The A Team" They should be upfront they attacked because they thought they had the raid advantage in their NS tier, rather than make up other excuses. Stonewall has never struck me as the person to care whether or not he has an advantage. And for all the good and bad moments alike, I've known him for a while. If he doesn't like you, don't worry, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Banned said: I would point out that when DK disbaned, Daeg joined Last Call and got in the fight anyway. So, I guess I'm short to see quite what you're implying about him. Sure, we all know that. I am implying exactly what happened, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, Stonewall14 said: Learn your history grasshopper, Daeg, Caliph, me etc got extra terms from that very war Youre impact sucked. You spent months aknowleging your yearn for goading a war between BONEs and OC... I fail to see why you shearing a few pixels makes you special when your 'comrades'... 'friends'.... lost much more, but what-evs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: Sure, we all know that. I am implying exactly what happened, You profess to know a lot about DK's disbandment. Still, I don't recall seeing you there, nor you being the one to make that decision, and as somebody who was both there, and in government at the time, I profess that you are very much missing the mark on your reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just now, Banned said: You profess to know a lot about DK's disbandment. Believe me, I know more than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord Hitchcock said: Believe me, I know more than you. rrrrriiiiiiiggggggggggghhhhhhhttttttt. I'm just gonna back away slowly from the crazy guy in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Lord Hitchcock randomly not making sense, this is new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Banned said: rrrrriiiiiiiggggggggggghhhhhhhttttttt. I'm just gonna back away slowly from the crazy guy in the room. 1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said: Lord Hitchcock randomly not making sense, this is new. Please be more specific and I will address your 'shock' accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: Please be more specific and I will address your 'shock' accordingly Sure, claiming you know more about DK's disbandment than I do is equivalent to me claiming I know more about Lord Hitchcock's last retirement than you do. You're delusional. But hey, you got one thing on me. You do obsess about it a lot more. Edited February 12, 2017 by Banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Banned said: Sure, claiming you know more about DK's disbandment than I do is equivalent to me claiming I know more about Lord Hitchcock's last retirement than you do. You're delusional. Lord Hitchcock retired because he knew he went too far in his actions against the Imperium, back during the Plutocratic War. Edited February 12, 2017 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadochi Von Seleucids Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Hmp, hitchcock always seems to steal the light away. im not getting attention Edited February 12, 2017 by Diadochi Von Seleucids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just now, Diadochi Von Seleucids said: Hmp, hitchcock always seems to steal the light away. ;.( im not getting attention You need to be about 3x more annoying and throw out random revelations without evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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