AL Bundy Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Roal36 said: You have a point POSSE does things fast but this is a record time I think. Maybe there was a private discussion prior as you suggested and the quick masking was a result of application happening at the right time. Fast indeed... (12/31/2016 12:12:10 PM) Alonso Quixano approved New Lucinda in their request to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. (12/30/2016 2:16:51 PM) Alonso Quixano approved Stoli in their request to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_activity.asp?Nation_ID=576175 (12/31/2016 12:01:06 PM) New Lucinda requested to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. (11 minutes) http://www.cybernations.net/nation_activity.asp?Nation_ID=568542 (12/30/2016 2:15:54 PM) Stoli requested to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. (1 Minute) http://www.cybernations.net/nation_activity.asp?Nation_ID=558953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegor Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AL Bundy said: Fast indeed... (12/31/2016 12:12:10 PM) Alonso Quixano approved New Lucinda in their request to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. (12/30/2016 2:16:51 PM) Alonso Quixano approved Stoli in their request to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_activity.asp?Nation_ID=576175 (12/31/2016 12:01:06 PM) New Lucinda requested to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. (11 minutes) http://www.cybernations.net/nation_activity.asp?Nation_ID=568542 (12/30/2016 2:15:54 PM) Stoli requested to join the alliance Protectorate of Sovereign Socialist Ententes. (1 Minute) http://www.cybernations.net/nation_activity.asp?Nation_ID=558953 Now, now, Al, are we to blame someone for efficiency? I thought this thing was over with, but I guess not. Good luck fellas. Edited January 10, 2017 by Maegor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Bundy Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Maegor said: Now, now, Al, are we to blame someone for efficiency? I thought this thing was over with, but I guess not. Good luck fellas. Different thing, this is AGW rogue NOT ALPHA WOLVES. I just included our issue for PoSSE's history Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Got to wonder what PoSSE's allies think about this. And I feel sorry for the peaceful nations in the alliance who have to deal with this war. This is a matter between AGW Overlords and POSSE. I would advise against anyone outside the general vicinity to have hawkish intentions. Eating popcorn will suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said: This is a matter between AGW Overlords and POSSE. I would advise against anyone outside the general vicinity to have hawkish intentions. Eating popcorn will suffice. The only one with "hawkish intentions" is Alonso, who has antagonized numerous alliances knowing he has backing. Obviously we live in a world where plutocratic might would seem to weigh more than the will of the masses, however giving someone a blank check to conduct themselves in any manner they desire only results in problems down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: The only one with "hawkish intentions" is Alonso, who has antagonized numerous alliances knowing he has backing. Obviously we live in a world where plutocratic might would seem to weigh more than the will of the masses, however giving someone a blank check to conduct themselves in any manner they desire only results in problems down the road. Incorrect, there is more than just Alonso who will hold those views in here, I sense. Edited January 10, 2017 by Franz Ferdinand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 48 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said: Incorrect, there is more than just Alonso who will hold those views in here, I sense. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, Lord Hitchcock said: No. Yes, no, maybe I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is unfair So I just stare At the stain on the wall where The TV'd been But ever since We've moved in it's been empty Why I Why I'm in this room There is no point explaining You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is a test But I confess I like this mess I've made so far Grade on a curve And you'll observe I'm right below the horizon Yes, no Maybe, I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is unfair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roal36 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said: Yes, no, maybe I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is unfair So I just stare At the stain on the wall where The TV'd been But ever since We've moved in it's been empty Why I Why I'm in this room There is no point explaining You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is a test But I confess I like this mess I've made so far Grade on a curve And you'll observe I'm right below the horizon Yes, no Maybe, I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is unfair You are likely to irritate a few people here or at least if I posted something like that it will be considered as nuisance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, Roal36 said: You are likely to irritate a few people here or at least if I posted something like that it will be considered as nuisance. For you, the day Franz on graced your thread was the most important day of your life. For me, it was Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Bundy Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, Franz Ferdinand said: For you, the day Franz on graced your thread was the most important day of your life. For me, it was Tuesday hahaha love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Franz Ferdinand said: Yes, no, maybe I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is unfair So I just stare At the stain on the wall where The TV'd been But ever since We've moved in it's been empty Why I Why I'm in this room There is no point explaining You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is a test But I confess I like this mess I've made so far Grade on a curve And you'll observe I'm right below the horizon Yes, no Maybe, I don't know Can you repeat the question? You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now You're not the boss of me now And you're not so big Life is unfair All hail our new malcom in the middle overlords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roal36 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Franz Ferdinand said: For you, the day Franz on graced your thread was the most important day of your life. For me, it was Tuesday You replied to me. I am so Happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaoshawk Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 A fair response to accepting an nuke rogue without negotiating his peace first I think. I hope PoSSE adopts the same principles of common decency most others have. Such as NPO, who sanctioned the rogue or GATO who booted him. Instead, PoSSE does the complete and total opposite by accepting the rogue without any thought to what those at war with him think about it. Very disrespectful, asking for war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Canik said: A fair response to accepting an nuke rogue without negotiating his peace first I think. I hope PoSSE adopts the same principles of common decency most others have. Such as NPO, who sanctioned the rogue or GATO who booted him. Instead, PoSSE does the complete and total opposite by accepting the rogue without any thought to what those at war with him think about it. Very disrespectful, asking for war. So do you predict alpha wolves will counter Umbrella? Now I know that wouldn't happen. But just for the small talk, how would it escalate from there? Would FTW trigger for AW, would Sparta get involved? These sort of botched raids never go anywhere (unless it's to dogpile m inc), but it's always fun to consider. Edited January 10, 2017 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Ah I see Alonso's best friend has his two cents to share. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I support POSSE. May you crush your enemies, see AGW driven before you, and you hear the lamentations of their women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackatron Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lysergide said: I support POSSE. May youUmbrella crush your enemies, see AGW driven before you, and you hear the lamentations of their women. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Ah I see Alonso's best friend has his two cents to share. Lol. ...still salty about that odp rejection, huh? And since when do i not share my two cents plus a nickel? It was merely small talk for the thread with some popcorn. Don't get your panties all in a bundle. Edited January 10, 2017 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Blackatron said: FTFY Well look at this savage. Such original content. I am in awe at your ability slash out a word and fill in another word. The level of wit behind it is exponentially vast in comparison to your intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackatron Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, Lysergide said: Well look at this savage. Such original content. I am in awe at your ability slash out a word and fill in another word. The level of wit behind it is exponentially vast in comparison to your intelligence. Are you actually bothering to pretend to disagree with what I said or are you simply throwing insults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, Blackatron said: Are you actually bothering to pretend to disagree with what I said or are you simply throwing insults? I am insulting your inability to provide anything other than a poor attempt at humor. So yes, I am calling you a retard. If you would like me to argue against your point I will lay it out in simple terms so you can understand. POSSE has the military capacity to deal with this on their own. To think other wise would just continue to show how small your mind is. To get upset that POSSE's friends are helping mitigate the damage that POSSE will be taking from this conflict is not uncommon or unheard of. This has been happening for years, and will happen until the day that this game is dead. It will always benefit a group of alliances to share the damage instead of allowing one alliance to take all the damage. It is a simple fact as why wars are dog piles, it allows for the winning side to maintain most of their strength post war and stay that much further ahead of their enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonso Quixano Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 9 hours ago, AL Bundy said: Should have just kicked the rogue, was one 17k nation worth this? AL Yes. Any nation we accept is entitled to the defence of any other nation in POSSE, no matter the seniority. Alpha Wolves was extremly helpful in the "rogue" situation, as we came to (what I hope was) an amicable conclusion. This other alliance, on the other hand, attacked during peace talks, told how how we were going to run our alliance, and threatened sanctions if we did not comply. Then they told us not to escalate (we didn't), then after the war expired, without trying to negotiate attacked the entire alliance. Let it be known I am still open to ending this senseless war for peace. 8 hours ago, Razgriz24 said: What are his principles again? Are you on the same medication? Principles? Maybe it's just a guiding philosophy. Every nation, big or small, who made a mistake, can join us, and expect us to defend them. Now that doesn't mean go to war for them, but it does mean, shield them from unwarranted aggression. Alpha Wolves got to have 4v1 one round war, and probably would have continued to attack said nation until he either quit, or with his wonders was in a position where they couldn't do anymore damage to said nation. Just like AGW Overlords had one round, and did not come back to negotiate to have his surrender. We are still willing to negotiate for peace, if this how they want to get restitution for their alliance, so be it. 8 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: If principles mean accepting a nuke rogue actively taunting the alliance he rogued, sure. This seems more like picking a fight than "principles." There was no taunting, I assure you. I didn't want to quote all your other posts, but I can also assure you that there was a poll where not one single person voted to expel any of the new members. You can keep thinking that we are uncivilized in how we deal with nations, but it is us who think the continuation of attacks agianst mistakes are the uncivilized responses. We paid out of our own pockets for Stoli, and would have done so for Zoltron, but AGW Overlords decided they wanted to attack during negotiations, then let the war expire, then attack the whole alliance. We are still willing to listen to peace negotiations as well. I'll even let ISX moderate them, if they'd be willing. Just to show you that we mean peace as a viable option, and would rather have paid for peace to the originally affected nations of the one raid that happened months ago. 7 hours ago, Blackatron said: I would agree it's irrational, but I mean: http://s15.zetaboards.com/ObeyThePosse/topic/10097668/1/ Masked within 60 seconds... Now maybe everything was discussed beforehand, but it certainly doesn't look like it, I mean for EVERY nation I have ever masked in my ~12 months in TTK government I have always checked war and aid history, if the nation is older (like this one) search their aid&war history on lyricalz to check for anything suspicious. If there is anything then ask the applicant about it, and if it seems necessary ask the alliance(s)/nations that they have a suspicious, unusual or aggressive activity with what went on and if there is an ongoing problem. There is no need for an approval within minutes, if they cannot wait a while whilst you ask them/others a few questions/resolve ongoing issues then they likely aren't a worthwhile addition. Really it is just common sense for avoiding conflicts. (Unless that is not your intention.) It was, in length. He sent me 20 PMs describing his situation, before he joined, I said it's fine, our members think you'd make a fine addition. We play differently than your alliance, that is okay. What we don't like is people trying to force their way of playing on us. We also don't use third party platforms as they are not apart of the game. Everything viewable on his war screen showed a war that happened months ago. AGW Overlords attacked during peace talks, and told us not to escalate, we didn't, then they decide to attack the whole alliance. The PMs are my first post on the first page for you to see. 4 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: The only one with "hawkish intentions" is Alonso, who has antagonized numerous alliances knowing he has backing. Obviously we live in a world where plutocratic might would seem to weigh more than the will of the masses, however giving someone a blank check to conduct themselves in any manner they desire only results in problems down the road. Wrong, we are not the ones who attacked during peace talks, then tell them not to escalate then attack an entire alliance. Also. Your last part is how we fell about a lot of alliances. The will of the masses includes everyone, even whom people deem rogues. Just because someone made a mistake, does not give the alliance a blank check to conduct themselves in a manner to ZI said nation, or continue to war them indefinitely. 1 hour ago, Canik said: A fair response to accepting an nuke rogue without negotiating his peace first I think. I hope PoSSE adopts the same principles of common decency most others have. Such as NPO, who sanctioned the rogue or GATO who booted him. Instead, PoSSE does the complete and total opposite by accepting the rogue without any thought to what those at war with him think about it. Very disrespectful, asking for war. We don't mind their response, as everyone is allowed to run their alliance as they see fit, we only wish to be given the same respect. We asked to get him peace, they attacked during peace talks, asked us not to escalate, drop peace talks, then attack the entire alliance. If that's their prerogative, so be it. We just wish to be able to have the same sovereignty to run our alliance as we see fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonso Quixano Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I also want it know, i've reached out to AGW Overlords about peace. To: Unruly From: Alonso Quixano Date: 1/10/2017 5:22:03 PM Subject: RE: War Declared! Message: If you're willing to talk peace, we will be more than welcome to talk peace. We tried before, but you attacked during peace talks, then did not come back to the table. We are here to talk peace, it cane be on a third party forum, with a third party moderator. I've reached out to Junka from ISX to see if he would be willing to moderate. Or if you'd we can do it at one of your allies forums. I look forward to talking with you to end this silly war. Everyone can have their opinions about POSSE, or about who we take in as members, or how we need to conform to everyone else's style of FA. I hope it's also known that we are willing to work towards a peaceful solution like we did with Alpha Wolves. A peaceful solution to end this war as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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