shahenshah Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) I see you are too lazy/dontcare to structure anything of value so why are you even here? Must be more of your hazy memories confusing you. Reply to what? That the world hasn't delivered an outcome in past few years as per your liking while you sat at the corner fully content and were least bothered about influencing the outcomes that were being worked by different parties. You did no political investments to influence the outcomes, why are you even pissed. We would all be very delighted if STA stepped back into plotting and schemings, its been a while since BiPolar and/or Frostbite, whatever came later. That in general is the issue with individuals selling the world-is-not-interesting narrative or x-hasnt-been-rolled-y-times-since-z. What has your AA done to make it any interesting other then sit in the corner? You are literally saying why haven't we shot ourselves in foot and when we did, why didn't we just fall over. Everyone in Occulus has been heavily involved in one or the other drama from EQ onwards, that has positively and negatively affected them and surely it has brought despair and happiness depending where you were on the politics. Same holds true for Doom, MI6, and few others. Those asking for x or y scenarios should start with their governments. Edited November 4, 2015 by shahenshah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conistonslim Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 He might be referring to ditch /? slims postings over the past few months. I am too lazy/don't care to dig those up. Don't think digging up facts ever changed minds here either. I assume when Samus refers to the STA's huffing and puffing he is talking about posts from myself and others regarding IRON's lack of spine. For example when Samus or Sheppard opened a topic bragging in the most arrogant and condescending way possible IRON had surpassed two million alliance tech about 6 months after bailing on NG. So if that is the huffing and puffing Samus is referring to then yeah there is plenty of evidence out there for all to see. Otherwise not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Pez was feeding what we were planning with you and STA directly to the other side. Pezstar admitted to assisting in setting us up publically. We were upset, until grudge. Since then we hold no grudge against Polar or STA, but opinions do get formed on whatever has been the last set of interactions. With Polar we've had many. With STA, not really. Surely, under your reign, Polar was feared by a lot of people and today Polar plays to instill fear and is highly feared, therefore, it is a highly ambitious alliance, a leader and not a follower, with a very creative leadership and is fully content with the present. Also, behold the scars. I think you are confusing Pezstars admission on screwing over MK with MagicalTrevor. Edited November 4, 2015 by ditchboy00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Surely, under your reign, Polar was feared by a lot of people and today Polar plays to instill fear and is highly feared, therefore, it is a highly ambitious alliance, a leader and not a follower, with a very creative leadership and is fully content with the present. Also, behold the scars. If you didn't fear me, perhaps you should have. You keep on tagging along with the real players at the table and they will take you somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 I assume when Samus refers to the STA's huffing and puffing he is talking about posts from myself and others regarding IRON's lack of spine. For example when Samus or Sheppard opened a topic bragging in the most arrogant and condescending way possible IRON had surpassed two million alliance tech about 6 months after bailing on NG. So if that is the huffing and puffing Samus is referring to then yeah there is plenty of evidence out there for all to see. Otherwise not so much. That was someone called Elendil, I can how it caused some more butthurt in STA. I think it was 1 year later after that war as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Where is that ODN which is high on Friends > Infra & wanting to avoid being seen as optional defense? Has it really been so long since ODN has joined a war which wasn't already being won, they forgot how to help an ally on the losing side? Maximum damage is usually how these wars are attempted; so ODN sitting on the sidelines could leave STA to take a beating for a while as people test it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 They're not coming in, deal with it. This war won't expand anymore, will just remain a massive curbstomp until the next massive curbstomp which hopefully more people will be a part of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Where is that ODN which is high on Friends > Infra & wanting to avoid being seen as optional defense? Has it really been so long since ODN has joined a war which wasn't already being won, they forgot how to help an ally on the losing side? Maximum damage is usually how these wars are attempted; so ODN sitting on the sidelines could leave STA to take a beating for a while as people test it. Equilibrium and Disorder would like a word with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayser Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 ODN burned during Eq and Disorder both telegraphed wars both times they had a tie they could have chained to get out or could have easily gotten a tie if they dropped NPO. They didn't and they burned for it. Stop hounding ODN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurthwaite Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 ODN burned during Eq and Disorder both telegraphed wars both times they had a tie they could have chained to get out or could have easily gotten a tie if they dropped NPO. They didn't and they burned for it. Stop hounding ODN. I fought them during both of those wars. They were honorable and fun and nothing but worthy targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucovina Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 And i fought with smurthwaitr 2 or 3 times ( kept trying to remember from where i know your name). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 They're not coming in, deal with it. This war won't expand anymore, will just remain a massive curbstomp until the next massive curbstomp which hopefully more people will be a part of. The pain of defeat is nothing next to the utter discomfort caused by a case of global war blueballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) The pain of defeat is nothing next to the utter discomfort caused by a case of global war blueballs. Exactly. I don't mind getting rolled, just get me involved, as shown by my tenure as Invicta's leader. I remember Liz bitching cause I made the decision to declare in the Dave War, but there's just some people who won't sit by and let their allies burn, no matter what their allies "want." Edited November 9, 2015 by Thrash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Exactly. I don't mind getting rolled, just get me involved, as shown by my tenure as Invicta's leader. I remember Liz !@#$%*ing cause I made the decision to declare in the Dave War, but there's just some people who won't sit by and let their allies burn, no matter what their allies "want." Or when Europa didn't call you guys in during NEW/DF and people got pissed. Find a better CB if you want a war, don't be lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Or when Europa didn't call you guys in during NEW/DF and people got pissed. Find a better CB if you want a war, don't be lazy. The problem there is risk, it would take someone taking a risk to actually create an interesting war, and those in the current powercluster are all there because they do not take risks in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 The problem there is risk, it would take someone taking a risk to actually create an interesting war, and those in the current powercluster are all there because they do not take risks in the first place. The world needs bastards or we'll all go crazy from boredom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helbrecht Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 The world needs bastards or we'll all go crazy from boredom. The act of creating bastards is pretty diverting, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I dont know about you guys but I am having quite the ball. It feels great to cash in on all the time I wasted on Planet Bob. -omfg Edited November 12, 2015 by omfghi2u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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