applesauce59 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 That wouldn't be the pursuit of higher ratings would it? If I started my own show, could I talk to Frawley? I'd bend over backwards for a decent pretext to say hello~ I can get you that interview KW, but I have conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygon Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Oh look us! :popcorn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Reginbacher Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Very timely topic. I had some more ideas for you: 1. SNX and Polar part ways; 2. NAAC disbands; 3. Emperor Charles was removed from power in a coup... All joking aside, I don't see what the issue is. If Polar can vote in 3 separate senators (to NATO's 1 and CCC's 1), and the combined forces of various alliances can't mount a political campaign for one of the 3 we took, I'm not sure what the problem is. Surely other alliances have enough membership to get one person elected to senate, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexio15 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Very timely topic. I had some more ideas for you: 1. SNX and Polar part ways; 2. NAAC disbands; 3. Emperor Charles was removed from power in a coup... All joking aside, I don't see what the issue is. If Polar can vote in 3 separate senators (to NATO's 1 and CCC's 1), and the combined forces of various alliances can't mount a political campaign for one of the 3 we took, I'm not sure what the problem is. Surely other alliances have enough membership to get one person elected to senate, no? Oh no issue on that they should put one together what so ever does help with other things thrown into the mix for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicePats Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 This is what I heard throughout that entire audio file: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Reginbacher Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 And I know there is no video or visual part of the Report, but I keep seeing this in my head: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Monkey Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 All joking aside, I don't see what the issue is. If Polar can vote in 3 separate senators (to NATO's 1 and CCC's 1), and the combined forces of various alliances can't mount a political campaign for one of the 3 we took, I'm not sure what the problem is. Surely other alliances have enough membership to get one person elected to senate, no? Choosing to run 3 senators is not what we take offense to. Deliberately messaging our membership on *two separate occasions* (one asking us to vote for your senators, and a second deliberately telling our nations to vote for the wrong senators in an attempt to dilute our votes) is what we're upset about. Polaris leadership's devil-may-care attitude when approached about the issue certainly did not improve our opinions either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 None of this would be a problem if yall'd just vote Grub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerschbs Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Choosing to run 3 senators is not what we take offense to. Deliberately messaging our membership on *two separate occasions* (one asking us to vote for your senators, and a second deliberately telling our nations to vote for the wrong senators in an attempt to dilute our votes) is what we're upset about. Polaris leadership's devil-may-care attitude when approached about the issue certainly did not improve our opinions either. If you can't control your members well enough that they fall for this kind of stuff, that may be a you problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky Monkey Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 If you can't control your members well enough that they fall for this kind of stuff, that may be a you problem. I never said they did, and that is ignoring the point entirely. It is simply inappropriate to go around masquerading as another alliances government and sending their membership messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Isn't it amazing how the new Polar govt has turned three former allies (CCC, NADC, SNX) into what could be considered, at minimum, less than favorable relations? I love Polaris but that's a failure of diplomacy if there ever was one. Edited September 18, 2015 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Maybe Methrage should have invaded blue instead of brown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Isn't it amazing how the new Polar govt has turned three former allies (CCC, NADC, SNX) into what could be considered, at minimum, less than favorable relations? I love Polaris but that's a failure of diplomacy if there ever was one. You have to break a few eggs to achieve your ideological goals. AlmightyGrub is a senate candidate that understands that. This is why everyone should vote AlmightyGrub. Hell, do it twice if you can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 You have to break a few eggs to achieve your ideological goals. AlmightyGrub is a senate candidate that understands that. This is why everyone should vote AlmightyGrub. Hell, do it twice if you can! When you put it that way, it's hard to argue with that :awesome: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) This is what I heard throughout that entire audio file: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ This made me laugh so hard! Choosing to run 3 senators is not what we take offense to. Deliberately messaging our membership on *two separate occasions* (one asking us to vote for your senators, and a second deliberately telling our nations to vote for the wrong senators in an attempt to dilute our votes) is what we're upset about. Polaris leadership's devil-may-care attitude when approached about the issue certainly did not improve our opinions either. We did indeed send them some information to help them. Your "devil-may-care" comment is wrong though. We care a great deal. If you can't control your members well enough that they fall for this kind of stuff, that may be a you problem. We did them a favour and with our help their alliance mustered up almost 20 votes! No gratitude... I never said they did, and that is ignoring the point entirely. It is simply inappropriate to go around masquerading as another alliances government and sending their membership messages. This is were you let yourself down. Show me an example of where we masqueraded anyone and I'll eat a slice of humble pie right here in public. Isn't it amazing how the new Polar govt has turned three former allies (CCC, NADC, SNX) into what could be considered, at minimum, less than favorable relations? I love Polaris but that's a failure of diplomacy if there ever was one. When I retired I did so knowing a new Government would have different FA goals and methods than my own. Watching years of work leave isn't fun but sticking to the same old formula equals stagnation. That's something I'd expect every competent alliance leader to understand. Eatem runs a different Polaris than I did and he's doing a good job of it. We are far from stagnant and ending some treaties sends the world a clear message, Polaris is open for business. The ministry of truth are filling his requirements quite well and there has been no failure. You have to break a few eggs to achieve your ideological goals. AlmightyGrub is a senate candidate that understands that. This is why everyone should vote AlmightyGrub. Hell, do it twice if you can! I bought a wonder just so I could! Edited September 18, 2015 by Dajobo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) I bought a wonder just so I could! (9/9/2015 7:54:58 PM) Dajobo voted for medic32 of Ecateca in the Blue team senate election. Utilizing Political Lobbyists, Dajobo allowed medic32 to receive 2 votes instead of the usual 1 vote. The People will never forgive this betrayal, sir. You've lost our trust. hartfw doesn't even believe in the Easter Bunny anymore thanks to you. Edited September 18, 2015 by Auctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Wow, Dajobo. Just wow.You of all people, voting for someone other than Grub? What the heck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 LMAO I vote for who ever is lowest of our three senators but that's some quality observation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 LMAO I vote for who ever is lowest of our three senators but that's some quality observation! You're dead to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) When I retired I did so knowing a new Government would have different FA goals and methods than my own. Watching years of work leave isn't fun but sticking to the same old formula equals stagnation. That's something I'd expect every competent alliance leader to understand. Eatem runs a different Polaris than I did and he's doing a good job of it. We are far from stagnant and ending some treaties sends the world a clear message, Polaris is open for business. The ministry of truth are filling his requirements quite well and there has been no failure. Minc was a quick and bold move, one that I respect in many ways, but I'd personally love to see Polar pull something strategically upsetting like the SNX-Doom relationship. It would add credibility to Polaris being a rejuvenated force in FA, and I truly hope Polar becomes a winning force in the world again. Edited September 19, 2015 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Reginbacher Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Isn't it amazing how the new Polar govt has turned three former allies (CCC, NADC, SNX) into what could be considered, at minimum, less than favorable relations? I love Polaris but that's a failure of diplomacy if there ever was one. Do you ever get tired of making stuff up? In regard to the soured SNX relations, you said: Actually the fault of this one is the Imperium's, though the membership was largely unaware of what had previously taken place. You went on to say: The last government in SNX was very corrupt and the membership has been learning all sorts of shenanigans that the prior government perpetrated. These actions included secret govt charter votes, improperly organized tech deals with Polar, the manner in which Imperium treaties with NADC and TSO were handled, and numerous other decisions which ruined the formerly strong relationship between Polar and SNX. Your mouth must be tired, with you speaking from both sides of it so often... Edited September 21, 2015 by Orville Reginbacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dane0 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) I don't think NpO really cares about "losing" SNX, seeing as they kicked you to the curb and then watched dogs feast upon your carcsss. Edited September 21, 2015 by dane0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Do you ever get tired of making stuff up? In regard to the soured SNX relations, you said: You went on to say: Your mouth must be tired, with you speaking from both sides of it so often... No contradiction. I left Polar to lead a revolution against the same corrupt government that scammed Polaris. After my recognized service in Polar, logically speaking, it would have been wise for Polar government to support my effort in installing a friendly and more efficient regime. The fact that SNX has proven successful under my leadership just showed that I was right in my prediction that SNX wasn't really dead. Considering our better aid slot usage and political position, it is fair to say that cutting SNX as an ally (along with NADC and CCC) was a loss for Polaris. Even if it was just a small loss, multiple small losses add up. Edited September 21, 2015 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Moon Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 No contradiction. I left Polar to lead a revolution against the same corrupt government that scammed Polaris. After my recognized service in Polar, logically speaking, it would have been wise for Polar government to support my effort in installing a friendly and more efficient regime. The fact that SNX has proven successful under my leadership just showed that I was right in my prediction that SNX wasn't really dead. Considering our better aid slot usage and political position, it is fair to say that cutting SNX as an ally (along with NADC and CCC) was a loss for Polaris. Even if it was just a small loss, multiple small losses add up. Just thought I'd leave this here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 No contradiction. I left Polar to lead a revolution against the same corrupt government that scammed Polaris. After my recognized service in Polar, logically speaking, it would have been wise for Polar government to support my effort in installing a friendly and more efficient regime. The fact that SNX has proven successful under my leadership just showed that I was right in my prediction that SNX wasn't really dead. Considering our better aid slot usage and political position, it is fair to say that cutting SNX as an ally (along with NADC and CCC) was a loss for Polaris. Even if it was just a small loss, multiple small losses add up. My question is when did NADC and polar have a treaty? If your going try and spin things please spin the facts. It's admirable that SNX still alive but don't let it go to much into your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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