Ayatollah Bromeini Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sadistic is just enigmatic enough to sum it up nicely. Good to see you're still fighting the good fight. Is that to say that Polar carries the spirit of rebellion these days? I'm a bit out of the loop, you see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sadistic is just enigmatic enough to sum it up nicely. Good to see you're still fighting the good fight. Is that to say that Polar carries the spirit of rebellion these days? I'm a bit out of the loop, you see Polar just carries the expectation of something that Polar has never sought. People are always disappointed and will continue to be so. We are not here to save the world from itself, the world can suit itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Could someone explain to me what's going on here? I'm starting to lose my o-face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caladin Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 People arguing over...I'm not actually sure at this stage :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 ODN threatening WTF over potential escalation if they don't peace out with DBDC, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caladin Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Originally, but it seems to have sidetracked a bit in the last few posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Originally, but it seems to have sidetracked a bit in the last few posts. I'm suprised it stayed on topic longer then 2 pages honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Played it smart. I love my pixels. Could care less if anyone in here has more war experience. You obviously do care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Humphrey Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Although I never mentioned CT, I will state I don't think he is that bad of a guy. He was swept away on the tide in the hopes of staying safe, which is a position quite a few people find themselves in these days. It is hard to continue to fault him for that when he has taken steps to rectify his previous actions. That's a convenient attempt to whitewash the recent history of your new champion against DBDC, but CT was not swept away by anything. He made a decision to switch to DBDC during the MQ/TDO conflict to attack nations DBDC had declared on, and was content to raid with DBDC for the past two years. He has taken no steps to rectify the same actions for which you criticise DBDC, except to return following personality conflicts when those actions threatened his own alliance. Even then, his response was to declare on Cuba and then go rogue on 3 SPATR nations to settle his own grudges rather than countering wars against WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Tldr- Everyone who has casualties is a loser.I wonder what alliance has the majority of the top casualty nations? Past & Present members of Non Grata Edited March 13, 2015 by Stewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 That's a convenient attempt to whitewash the recent history of your new champion against DBDC, but CT was not swept away by anything. He made a decision to switch to DBDC during the MQ/TDO conflict to attack nations DBDC had declared on, and was content to raid with DBDC for the past two years. He has taken no steps to rectify the same actions for which you criticise DBDC, except to return following personality conflicts when those actions threatened his own alliance. Even then, his response was to declare on Cuba and then go rogue on 3 SPATR nations to settle his own grudges rather than countering wars against WTF. Your alliance fought against MQ/DBDC and most recently fought an aggressive conflict entirely for their benefit, are you saying people don't change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwitchHard Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Your alliance fought against MQ/DBDC and most recently fought an aggressive conflict entirely for their benefit, are you saying people don't change? I wish you would change and stop posting but I guess people never do change. :smug: Edit: Forgot that sweet smiley face. Edited March 13, 2015 by TwitchHard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 While what you say, in practice may be correct, I just want to point out that Thriller did not "handle the heat." They tucked tail and disbanded. So coming from you, it really is ineffectual commentary. If you do not practice what you preach, do not preach it, memories are long. Handling the heat doesn't necessarily mean winning. It means accepting the consequences of your actions, regardless of what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Your alliance fought against MQ/DBDC and most recently fought an aggressive conflict entirely for their benefit, are you saying people don't change? It wasn't entirely for their benefit, we had goals that we wanted achieved...and they were, although there were some unfortunate side effects. Besides that, when a whole chunk of the world decided to start a global war against our allies instead of helping with MQ/DBDC we ended up getting to know them and realized we shared similar goals and views on some subjects. Also we became friends, although thats not a reason to join together by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I wish you would change and stop posting but I guess people never do change. :smug: Gain some NS and come and make me. It wasn't entirely for their benefit, we had goals that we wanted achieved...and they were, although there were some unfortunate side effects. Besides that, when a whole chunk of the world decided to start a global war against our allies instead of helping with MQ/DBDC we ended up getting to know them and realized we shared similar goals and views on some subjects. Also we became friends, although thats not a reason to join together by itself. It was entirely for their benefit, unless you're somehow benefiting from yet another neutral AA getting rolled simply because they exist. I'm glad to see NATO is so willing to exchange their ideals for security. Edited March 13, 2015 by Mogar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 That's a convenient attempt to whitewash the recent history of your new champion against DBDC, but CT was not swept away by anything. He made a decision to switch to DBDC during the MQ/TDO conflict to attack nations DBDC had declared on, and was content to raid with DBDC for the past two years. He has taken no steps to rectify the same actions for which you criticise DBDC, except to return following personality conflicts when those actions threatened his own alliance. Even then, his response was to declare on Cuba and then go rogue on 3 SPATR nations to settle his own grudges rather than countering wars against WTF. So basically the reason alliances have allied with DBDC and will drop them once the threat is over or thrill is gone. But since CT did it as a single nation he's a slime ball while you're politically-savvy. Spare me. I have no idea about CT's past or character but I've gleaned enough to know he doesn't sound any different from any alliance, and once you get to the "god" tier, a nation can pretty much act as an alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sorry, Hal, DBDC will not be recognizing your neutrality anytime soon, so I would approve of the first option if it freed their resources to focus on Val. But the latter option is more likely. Inertia is always hard to break, and DBDC should look at WTF as a threat to their goals at this point. If you want to rattle DBDC's saber, I suggest you get their permission first. Actually, watching you try is a bit sad, "Deputy of Trades". Don't you have some whiny messages from NG members to respond to complaining because their Cattle and Pigs trade isn't accepting fast enough? WTF wasn't a threat to DBDC's plans in any way, save that they had some nations taking up slots in the top 250 nations. If we've gotten to the point that is is a "thing" (clearing the top 250 nations of neutrals), then some people must be so bored it actually physically hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah screw anyone that works with trades. Their opinions are automatically invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Past & Present members of Non Grata Well then I do believe gatorback is on the scoreboard because if what you said is true then he's definitely right since NG is a buncha losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 If you want to rattle DBDC's saber, I suggest you get their permission first. Actually, watching you try is a bit sad, "Deputy of Trades". Don't you have some whiny messages from NG members to respond to complaining because their Cattle and Pigs trade isn't accepting fast enough? Agreed. We should take every opportunity to crap all over people who are involved in the econ side of things. For no reason in particular, too. That's right. Just to add a little jab because they're bothering us. They deserve it, what with their getting so much recognition outside their alliance, plus all the gold and women. Seriously, Hal. This is officially the weirdest thing you've ever posted. (Plus, the complaint was from me and it was Iron and Lumber.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Bromeini Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Polar just carries the expectation of something that Polar has never sought. And what would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Gain some NS and come and make me. It was entirely for their benefit, unless you're somehow benefiting from yet another neutral AA getting rolled simply because they exist. I'm glad to see NATO is so willing to exchange their ideals for security. I was not referring to the current war with WTF but the Doom War. Plus it we didn't trade ideals for security, we've proven we don't mind throwing our upper tier away against super nations. We joined like minded AA's to accomplish shared goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 TB we don't think for one moment the ODN's of this world give a fig about what Polaris or NSO think of them. I can't speak for others but I know I went and read the threads for myself and my own interest and didn't even post in it as it's not our battle. I DO however think ODN care about what their own allies think of it. I'm delighted to say that ODN would have our support as they do in all things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm delighted to say that ODN would have our support as they do in all things. So 7 CnG nations being protected from raids in the "god tier" is worth more than the protection of other 308 nations not in it? That you would consider openly supporting wanton destruction of CnG members nations for the sole reason of defending a rogue alliance doing a botched up raid is naive at best and idiotic at worse. That's if you could even sell the war to your members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 TLR isnt exactly the most active, it's the other two members of C&G that would need to be sold on the war, and after Atlas's performance last war and considering how GATO operates to declare war, I suspect that would be unlikely, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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