Ogaden Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I have taken another stab at this, last time people criticized soft NS being a liability rather than just not being an asset, so I've taken another stab at this with alliances.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l8z9QnQNUErVygYCis0bDpaqq20VVHp6y-IVHSlFe3U/pubhtmlBasically divides hard NS (tech) from soft NS (non-tech NS) then multiplies hard NS by nuke and WRC counts (which increase the effectiveness of tech and nukes dramatically) to produce the real hitting power, in NS, of an alliance.Thoughts and criticisms are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Would it be possible to have a Power Rank column as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Would it be possible to have a Power Rank column as well? I could add one of those later :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 EMP/nations with enough tech as to be able to expect to use EMP sufficiently long might be interesting. We're seeing a significant amount of nations with EMP/8k tech drop below the 5k tech benchmark to be able to use it in under a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord bagel Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I like this. makes TOP look pretty boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Now do one for Political power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avakael Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 The EMP wonder actually makes a significant difference, so it's worth including in the calculations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubaQuerida Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Now do one for Political power. I have a headache already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade 619 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Could you post the formulae you're using to calculate these please? I'm intrigued as to what effect it would have when applied to individual nations. I agree with the others about the EMP... it should be included, though I'm not sure how you would do it exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 What's the difference between soft NS and hard NS? Like how are they calculated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Solomon I Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) What's the difference between soft NS and hard NS? Like how are they calculated? I think the idea is tech is hard NS and infra, land, and military forces are soft NS, since tech is so much harder to destroy than the other three and is therefore much more resilient. Much more hard NS will remain after a war than soft NS. Edited November 25, 2014 by HM Solomon I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Solomon I Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Now do one for Political power. That'd be cool, but there's no way it could be accurately calculated. The closest you could get would be to figure the relative power (as calculated ITT) of the treaty partners of each alliance and find some kind of metric that summarizes that. But really, true political is all tied to belief, as someone on some premium cable channel once said: "Power resides where men believe it resides." Edited November 25, 2014 by HM Solomon I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 That'd be cool, but there's no way it could be accurately calculated. The closest you could get would be to figure the relative power (as calculated ITT) of the treaty partners of each alliance and find some kind of metric that summarizes that. But really, true political is all tied to belief, as someone on some premium cable channel once said: "Power resides where men believe it resides." Yeah, not really objectively measurable at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 RI5 does do that in the treaty web tool, shows the aggregate stats of all binding treaty partners, then of all optional treaty partners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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