hartfw Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Aren't you a little too busy with TGE already, Auctor? This might not be the best place to discuss this, but TGE is all going camping soon. Check the forums for more info, and we hope you all can make it. Also, congrats to all involved in where ever this topic originally was, even if you don't camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 It's ok, Aftermath. I can lead you into a new age. Sorry, you're on the terror watchlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordoftheland Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Not a good leader myself :| I meant more of a leading alliance, but eh... You got that I guess. So RnR wants to join Aftermath??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 So RnR wants to join Aftermath??? Doubtful. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakos Raanb Dorou Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 MI6 is just jealous we poach at the bloc level.Join Aftermath. :v: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I think AFM functions very well with out one alliance telling all the others what to do. I'm not sure why any alliance would want to take orders for their FA. Coordinating FA is a matter of give and take, not one alliance's vision superseding the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I really want to make the "whoosh" post but we've let you stay clueless for this long so I'll only clue you in in the most meta way possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I think AFM functions very well with out one alliance telling all the others what to do. I'm not sure why any alliance would want to take orders for their FA. Coordinating FA is a matter of give and take, not one alliance's vision superseding the others. No, we are clearly expected by the OWF to go down the Brehon road of leadership here. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 So RnR wants to join Aftermath??? Not really. But feel free to take my comment as a slight and reply in a passive-aggressive way, though I really did not mean to undermine Snacks or Aftermath's efforts here. I think AFM functions very well with out one alliance telling all the others what to do. I'm not sure why any alliance would want to take orders for their FA. Coordinating FA is a matter of give and take, not one alliance's vision superseding the others. No bloc can work with an alliance imposing its will over the others. No bloc can work without a clear leadership either, though: claiming that a 7-alliances bloc can work efficiently and effectively through mediation and appeasement only seems a bit of a stretch, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Not really. But feel free to take my comment as a slight and reply in a passive-aggressive way, though I really did not mean to undermine Snacks or Aftermath's efforts here. No bloc can work with an alliance imposing its will over the others. No bloc can work without a clear leadership either, though: claiming that a 7-alliances bloc can work efficiently and effectively through mediation and appeasement only seems a bit of a stretch, though.we've come this far...appeasement of? If you count CCC and NADC's duel member treaty it becomes more like 6. But Srsly, wanna make it an even 8 and bring RnR into the fold? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 we've come this far...appeasement of? If you count CCC and NADC's duel member treaty it becomes more like 6. But Srsly, wanna make it an even 8 and bring RnR into the fold? ;) Plan B and AFM shall combine and TAKE OVER ZEE VORLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 There's some kind of barrier between my text and your eyes, clearly, so I'll simply leave you guys to your endeavors :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Plan B and AFM shall combine and TAKE OVER ZEE VORLDPlan B + AFM = Plan A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Plan B + AFM = Plan A. And who does Plan A? The A team. This is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruler the White Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 There's some kind of barrier between my text and your eyes, clearly, so I'll simply leave you guys to your endeavors :) I'm sure my comrades meant no offense with their comments. In the days where trolls rule most OWF discourses, serious questions are few and far between, and I'm afraid our ability to respond to them in a serious manner has degraded. But as for your question regarding leadership: While there is no official leader of Aftermath, it would be disingenuous to suggest that there are not individuals who lead and direct bloc policy more than others. This unofficial leadership has served us well in the past, and allows for a more flexible response to various situations. If our various FA policies were disparate, an official or de facto leader would be needed, I agree. But our FA policies are extremely similar, if not the same. Add to this our current internal policy of bloc approval for new MD level treaties and the potential use of our Supremacy clause to void treaty obligations that cause conflicts with the bloc, and our FA situation is actually well in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third King Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Ruler for bloc leader! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 This is starting to look like a Fellowship involving a Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 And who does Plan A? The A team. This is needed. I wasn't completely sold on the idea until I seen this, obviously this needs to happen. Sorry treaty web :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 This is starting to look like a Fellowship involving a Ring. Just need 2 more :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I wasn't completely sold on the idea until I seen this, obviously this needs to happen. Sorry treaty web :( We'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade4box Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Nice tier peacing you guys got going on there. Looks like some good cooperative structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyaddaff Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Not really. But feel free to take my comment as a slight and reply in a passive-aggressive way, though I really did not mean to undermine Snacks or Aftermath's efforts here. No bloc can work with an alliance imposing its will over the others. No bloc can work without a clear leadership either, though: claiming that a 7-alliances bloc can work efficiently and effectively through mediation and appeasement only seems a bit of a stretch, though.With 600+ nations they can be very efficient and effective as meat shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruler the White Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Probably not, unfortunately. We'd all wind up cooking the shield to an excellent medium rare, Invicta would bring drinks, the NADC would invite us to one of their beach houses, and it would just be a total disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King William Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 AFM for hivemind bloc.We don't need an alliance to rule us.What we need is; Ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilyn Caster Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Plan B and AFM shall combine and TAKE OVER ZEE VORLD Plan B and Afterbirth can barely take over a dumpster, let alone Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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