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The Misfits declares war on Hellas.

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The Misfits

6 nations

Daenarys Targaryen of Westeros - 2,599.99 infrastructure
IzaMoss of Unknown - 3,869.99
PsyMar of Katamaristan - 3,499.99
AllkindsOfGains of AllKindsofGains - 2,299.99
akato of akato - 2,481.41
smoke14me of LibertyNation - 1,099.99

Nukes: 28


Hellas

6 nations

Jamie Lanister of Kings Landing - 3,499.99
Tintin of Potemkin Crew - 3,999.64
Alexandros o Megas of Macedonia - 2,799.99
Eljierro of Vergadentro - 2,299.99
JeremyNat of Dimitroupolis - 1,899.99
jackcousteau of Ellas - 1,099.00

Nukes: 30

 

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This isn't rocket science. Hellas has 6 members so we'll only be using 6 members. Hellas is more than welcome to declare on anyone else from the Misfits but that might prove difficult when their top 5 are in anarchy.

 

It doesn't get much fairer than this paul so quit crying over nothing.

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It doesn't get much fairer than this paul so quit crying over nothing.

 

If you believe this, you can't do simple addition.

 

For those who can, the NS of the six declaring nations: 102,972. 

 

The NS of Hellas' six defending nations: 78,602.

 

 

Brave as always, Misfits.

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Your using our post blitz NS totals because I have the pre blitz stats and its closer to 90k NS for us.

 

Its a pretty desperate attempt at nit picking. I hope you do the same for your own declarations because aren't those differences normally in the hundreds of thousands? I think we'll start keeping track of your own NS differences from now on. :)

 

And I see you've found a new home in WD's this round. I guess you're chances of a flag win in TEPD were very slim this round.

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If you're going to cry over a 10-20k NS difference, take your crying to Hellas and tell them to increase their NS by buying planes, tanks, soldiers. I'm sure it'll equal out once they have these. Its not our fault they have chosen not to buy many or any in some cases.

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We also started with 15 nukes if you only count the Misfits taking part. I've noticed many Hellas members have logged into their nations but seem to have forgotten to buy soldiers/tanks/planes so I hope they remember the next time they log in. I believe its been awhile since the NDO curb stomp so I assume Hellas are cashed up.

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The Misfits and Hellas have agreed to an early peace, effective immediately.

 

We thought we would find a hard fought war hitting Hellas but not everything works out the way you want it. The Misfits will not be counting this as an official war so may our quest for glory and casualties continue.

 

Good luck to Hellas. :)

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So, I guess now even you recognize how one sided this was? I don't have a problem with one sided. But I have a problem with lying. And I don't believe you're dumb enough to really believe "it doesn't get much fairer (more fair) than this)" when the differences were SO obvious. This is the only DOW that I have seen that goes by infra, presumably because you could find one statistic that was evenly matched. Gee, "The Iron Will" has as many nations in anarchy as defcon, would that be a fair fight?

 

Lol, again, irdc that you downdeclared. I care that you didn't show the integrity to acknowledge it. The thing I have noticed, is everyone wants to make their downdeclare look like an updeclare, but what loses you more honor? Attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men, or actually attempting to manipulate and lie to real humans to avoid the perception of attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men?

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So, I guess now even you recognize how one sided this was? I don't have a problem with one sided. But I have a problem with lying. And I don't believe you're dumb enough to really believe "it doesn't get much fairer (more fair) than this)" when the differences were SO obvious. This is the only DOW that I have seen that goes by infra, presumably because you could find one statistic that was evenly matched. Gee, "The Iron Will" has as many nations in anarchy as defcon, would that be a fair fight?

 

Lol, again, irdc that you downdeclared. I care that you didn't show the integrity to acknowledge it. The thing I have noticed, is everyone wants to make their downdeclare look like an updeclare, but what loses you more honor? Attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men, or actually attempting to manipulate and lie to real humans to avoid the perception of attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men?

 

Welcome to TE, John. In my experience, if you have argue your war is legit, then it's normally not. 

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The infra was almost evenly matched, the nation count was equal, they had double our nuke count, we had 10 days since our last war and they had 30 days but what really shifted the odds in our favor was our initial coordinated quads and I credit the 5 nations involved for literally removing any threat Hellas was to us from the blitz alone. This war was actually worth the planning time involved for that blitz alone. Every Hellas nation was studied and their weaknesses/strengths identified, they were then matched with our nations that would have the best advantages against their weaknesses. A good Sunday afternoon activity.

 

Was it one sided? I disagree, we had just over 10k more NS than them before the blitz and we had almost fully built our nations before the blitz. This is why I don't find NS totals to be perfectly equal that important when its easy to suppress your NS, take stats, build nations and then blitz or blitz before building and so many do it but it is a legitimate strategy. 

 

The deciding factor to give them peace was after intel reports told us they're all broke and we knew they'd just nuke turtle. It was very disappointing it ended so early but I'm not into beating people while they're down and we know that feeling well. Besides we play this game for a good fair war and we don't get to see too many of those and we don't have too many options with our low member count.

 

This war would have had the same outcome with just me, Iza and psy involved from a cash perspective alone. We know Hellas can do much better so we've just put it down to activity issues on their part and we've wished them well.

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Welcome to TE, John. In my experience, if you have argue your war is legit, then it's normally not. 

I'm arguing against the false facts and assumptions that have been said and I'd expose them every time but this could be avoided if people did their home work before accusing us of declaring a down declare. Those accusing others of down declaring should also be mindful of their own wars too and I'd like them to come out of the wood work when every alliance down declares and not just those they don't like.

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So, I guess now even you recognize how one sided this was? I don't have a problem with one sided. But I have a problem with lying. And I don't believe you're dumb enough to really believe "it doesn't get much fairer (more fair) than this)" when the differences were SO obvious. This is the only DOW that I have seen that goes by infra, presumably because you could find one statistic that was evenly matched. Gee, "The Iron Will" has as many nations in anarchy as defcon, would that be a fair fight?

 

Lol, again, irdc that you downdeclared. I care that you didn't show the integrity to acknowledge it. The thing I have noticed, is everyone wants to make their downdeclare look like an updeclare, but what loses you more honor? Attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men, or actually attempting to manipulate and lie to real humans to avoid the perception of attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men?

Also I don't care about your opinion. :D Come back with some stats proving it was a down declare. Just because i gave them peace doesn't mean i recognized it was a down declare. Some might call it mercy, and some might just want to find an opponent that fights back with more than just nukes, after all we are playing a war game.

 

Also, I still have every stat on every nation before that war, do you?

 

Its funny that you could only find one stat that was evenly matched in the DoW. That alone proves you have no idea what you're talking about because if you'd read the DoW properly, you'd have found the nation count was also evenly matched at 6 per side, the total alliance nuke counts were practically evenly matched at 28 and 30, but our nuke count was slashed in half if you only counted the Misfits involved , the tech was practically evenly matched .

 

The gap came mainly from Hellas lack of aircraft, navy, tanks and soldiers. For example, Jamie lannister, Eljierro and JeremyNat all had 0 aircraft. I guess we should have had 3 of our nations decom all aircraft, half of our navies and most of our tanks/soldiers before we attacked because this is what would have been required for us to do if we wanted the stats to be perfectly equal. If we'd known their war chest levels, we'd have never considered them as a target but I assumed 1 month without war would have given them a decent sized chest. Anyone else would have most likely have kept stomping them and claimed it as an official war but we haven't. This seems to be something you choose to miss but it does show your ignorance. The war is irrelevant now.

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So, I guess now even you recognize how one sided this was? I don't have a problem with one sided. But I have a problem with lying. And I don't believe you're dumb enough to really believe "it doesn't get much fairer (more fair) than this)" when the differences were SO obvious. This is the only DOW that I have seen that goes by infra, presumably because you could find one statistic that was evenly matched. Gee, "The Iron Will" has as many nations in anarchy as defcon, would that be a fair fight?
 
Lol, again, irdc that you downdeclared. I care that you didn't show the integrity to acknowledge it. The thing I have noticed, is everyone wants to make their downdeclare look like an updeclare, but what loses you more honor? Attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men, or actually attempting to manipulate and lie to real humans to avoid the perception of attacking less imaginary men with more imaginary men?


Did this guy even observe anything involved in the war? It wasn't misfits vs Hellas, it was a select few of misfits vs Hellas? I'm sure people had plans to stick us with Hellas the next war anyways and clearly that would of put us at the curb stomp with Hellas not able to once again provide any support for a war. Perhaps you should stick a round with misfits and you will think different. We get the short end majority of the time.
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They're just desperately looking for a reason to call it a down declare because they know we call their blatant down declares out. John has blindly jumped on the bandwagon and knows nothing other than he assumes it was a down declare if we gave them peace.

 

But keep the ridiculous accusations coming, I enjoy proving them false with logic and stats.

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Did this guy even observe anything involved in the war? It wasn't misfits vs Hellas, it was a select few of misfits vs Hellas? I'm sure people had plans to stick us with Hellas the next war anyways and clearly that would of put us at the curb stomp with Hellas not able to once again provide any support for a war. Perhaps you should stick a round with misfits and you will think different. We get the short end majority of the time.

Round is not over yet, still plenty of time for someone to do it to you. In fact how about I get 10 people and blitz you? I mean by your logic it would be fair.
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The infra was almost evenly matched, the nation count was equal, they had double our nuke count, we had 10 days since our last war and they had 30 days but what really shifted the odds in our favor was our initial coordinated quads [color=red]and I credit the 5 nations involved for literally removing any threat Hellas was to us from the blitz alone[/color]. This war was actually worth the planning time involved for that blitz alone. Every Hellas nation was studied and their weaknesses/strengths identified, they were then matched with our nations that would have the best advantages against their weaknesses. A good Sunday afternoon activity.

 

Was it one sided? I disagree, we had just over 10k more NS than them before the blitz and we had almost fully built our nations before the blitz. This is why I don't find NS totals to be perfectly equal that important when its easy to suppress your NS, take stats, build nations and then blitz or blitz before building and so many do it but it is a legitimate strategy. 

 

The deciding factor to give them peace was after intel reports told us they're all broke and we knew they'd just nuke turtle. It was very disappointing it ended so early but I'm not into beating people while they're down and we know that feeling well. Besides we play this game for a good fair war and we don't get to see too many of those and we don't have too many options with our low member count.

 

This war would have had the same outcome with just me, Iza and psy involved from a cash perspective alone. We know Hellas can do much better so we've just put it down to activity issues on their part and we've wished them well.

Hey congrats,DT: you and yours have mastered the five nation blitz. Your competence is clearly no longer in doubt. :facepalm:

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Hey congrats,DT: you and yours have mastered the five nation blitz. Your competence is clearly no longer in doubt. :facepalm:

Why thank you for taking notice, we put everyone we wanted in anarchy so it was a 100% success rate. :smug:

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Why thank you for taking notice, we put everyone we wanted in anarchy so it was a 100% success rate. :smug:

 

When you got to pick and choose the nations from your larger hand to "match" the only options available in Hellas - I damn well hope you had a successful blitz. Would have otherwise been a larger failure than the whole endeavour already was.

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When you got to pick and choose the nations from your larger hand to "match" the only options available in Hellas - I damn well hope you had a successful blitz. Would have otherwise been a larger failure than the whole endeavour already was.

I didn't get to hand pick any nations, it went to anyone that could make the update. The endeavor was a failure but not on our part and there wasn't much we could do if our opponents can't afford to war in a war game. Their rounds would have been over by the time we had finished if it went til the wars expired. Not enough time in the round to recover so they'd probably have abandoned their nations and one did after the blitz. http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000261

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