Saxplayer Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Nation Development is (for the purposes of this list) the average amount of Tech per member in an alliance. I also took infra into the equation, but Tech was worth way more than infra in this calculation. Basically, it;s average NS, but more weighted towards Tech. The Top 75 non-neutral Alliances. 1. DBDC 73845.7 2. Old Guard 27962.4 3. Umbrella 25104.6 4. SPTR 20970.4 5. DT 19977 6. The Gramlins 17143.5 7. TOP 16028 8. Wolfpack 15416.8 9. DoD 15003.6 10. AO 14459 11. WAPA 14011.2 12. FEAR 13517.5 13. Sengoku 13297.3 14. NEW 13193.5 15. GLoF 12775 16. AB 12493.1 17. GDA 12460.3 18. STA 12460.3 19. TPF 12106.6 20. KoN 11659.7 21. Avalanche 11439.5 22. Menotah 11236.6 23. Argent 11223.5 24. Valhalla 11094.5 25. RIA 10789.2 26. TSK 10538.3 27. FAN 10488.1 28. PPO 10209.3 29. Fark 10093.4 30. TSC 9738.4 31. TIO 9708.4 32. IRON 9695 33. tJL 9641.8 34. ODN 9633.1 35. GOP 9401 36. TSM 9193.4 37. AGW Overlords 9089.3 38. MI6 8940.1 39. Non Grata 8732.4 40.Sparta 8688.7 41. MHA 8684.6 42. GATO 8431.3 43. UPN 8331.9 44. III% 8246.1 45. MCXA 8239.6 45. CRAP 8239.6 47. NADC 7975.1 48. Ai 7964.9 49. Kaskus 7848.5 50. TLR 7837 51. DS 7700.9 52. TTE 7306.2 53. GOONS 7281.3 54. VE 7185 55. R&R 7134.9 56. The Int 6831 57. TTK 6819.5 58. NATO 6779.5 59. Invicta 6731.9 60. MW 6706.7 61. NpO 6515.4 62. NPO 6511.4 63. KotRT 6436.2 64. NoR 6411.2 65. LoSS 6229.2 66. GOD 6172.4 67. SUN 5777.8 68. SRA 5662.1 69. CCC 5500.1 70. The Legion 5241.6 71. NSF 5016.9 72. NSO 4937.6 73. Atlas 4674.5 74. USN 3179.6 75. Kashmir 2560 Edited July 17, 2014 by Saxplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD8RKE Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 NSO is 72? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 NSO is 72? Yes, NSO's Average Tech per nation is under 2000.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Oh wait maybe it is the infra throwing it off. Edited July 16, 2014 by Commander shepard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 If anyone is wondering why NPO, NpO or IRON are so low, it's because it's development of the average nation in that Alliance. Because NpO, NPO, and IRON all have a lot of smaller nations, that weighs them down immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD8RKE Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Why did you pick this list of alliances? Edited July 16, 2014 by KD8RKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Why did you pick this list of alliances? I picked the top 75 non neutral alliances Score wise. If I did this for all alliances in the game, you'd see tons of one man AA's littered in there, I COULD include Neutrals in the list if someone really wanted me to. Edited July 16, 2014 by Saxplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 If anyone is wondering why NPO, NpO or IRON are so low, it's because it's development of the average nation in that Alliance. Because NpO, NPO, and IRON all have a lot of smaller nations, that weighs them down immensely. That would be our case too, to answer kd8 a little further .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Wait, Old Guard aren't neutral? You learn something new every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejack Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Wait, Old Guard aren't neutral? You learn something new every day. No, not neutral. Old and set in our ways perhaps and not super involved in politics, but we get out the walkers occasionally and get dirty. We also do not recruit so we have less young nations than most alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Wait, Old Guard aren't neutral? You learn something new every day. You were in a war with Old Guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Would personally weight wonders. Particularly MP, WRC, and SDC. Quantity also has a quality of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Would personally weight wonders. Particularly MP, WRC, and SDC. Quantity also has a quality of its own. Quantity does have a quality of it's own, and I'm trying to construct a fair way of taking into account the number of nations that an alliance has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katashimon13 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 41. MHA 42. GATO missed it by that much.... rawr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 damn 25th, im impressed by us. we really have come a long way in tech importing, still have a ways to go. thanks for the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) 41. MHA 42. GATO missed it by that much.... rawr MHA 8684.6 GATO 8431.3 Unfortunately, not as close as it appears :P Edited July 17, 2014 by Saxplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD8RKE Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 MHA 8684.6 GATO 8431.3 Unfortunately, not as close as it appears :P Why don't you put these stats up on the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartfw Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Why don't you put these stats up on the OP And risk ppl reverse engineering his proprietary formula? Surely you jest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katashimon13 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 dammit mha go recruit a bunch to bring ur selves down some more D: we are way higher than i thought we would be.... better go crank the fire up..... rawr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Why don't you put these stats up on the OP Done, the formula was (AverageNS/10) + AverageTech Sounds a bit arbitrary, but i think it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Your equation is flawed because you take into account land and militarization when you factor in ANS. If you're going to weight things, do a proportional ranking system based off a particular statistic or building's impact on damage output. Aka, weight tech heavily and account for military wonders, like Auctor said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Your equation is flawed because you take into account land and militarization when you factor in ANS. If you're going to weight things, do a proportional ranking system based off a particular statistic or building's impact on damage output. Aka, weight tech heavily and account for military wonders, like Auctor said. Show me an equation that isn't "flawed" and I will consider using it. And as I believe I said before, I agree with making certain wonders count for points, I will most certainly work them into the next formula that I make. Edit: I'm sorry, I didn't say that before, nonetheless, I will be including certain wonders in the next formula. It will probably be something like "If X% of your alliance has this wonder, your score increases by some amount. Basically, there will be a limit to the number of points you could get from having that wonder. Like if 100% of your alliance has Wonder X, then you gain Y amount of points. Remember, the point of this is Moreso to show which alliances' nations are the most developed. Edited July 17, 2014 by Saxplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 If anyone is wondering why NPO, NpO or IRON are so low, it's because it's development of the average nation in that Alliance. Because NpO, NPO, and IRON all have a lot of smaller nations, that weighs them down immensely. I can give you two AA's... both start with 30 nations all top teirAA1 - recruits 30 new members per month for a yearAA2 - sits on its hands and does nothing for a yearThe net result is AA1 will slip exponentially in your list. With every new member they take on and develop they statistically would be punished even if they did amazing in the development programs per nation. Your list could really be turned upside down and renamed "CN's best recruiters" and be just as relevant to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Your list could really be turned upside down and renamed "CN's best recruiters" and be just as relevant to be honest. That doesn't work, you need to just make another one to find the best recruiting alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I can give you two AA's... both start with 30 nations all top teir AA1 - recruits 30 new members per month for a year AA2 - sits on its hands and does nothing for a year The net result is AA1 will slip exponentially in your list. With every new member they take on and develop they statistically would be punished even if they did amazing in the development programs per nation. Your list could really be turned upside down and renamed "CN's best recruiters" and be just as relevant to be honest. I refer you to TOP and DT, DT moreso because they have around 80 members, (which in this day and age, is a significant amount) And they are 5th on the list. IRON, if you take into consideration how many nations they have, is pretty high on the list. Also, you could think of it like this, if they keep growing all their members, they will still increase somewhat, Yes, DBDC and Old Guard may be the highest on the list, but they do have some of the most developed nations in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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