Lysergide Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Diplomatic Note from Sverige The Kingdom of Sverige must respectfully decline your invitation to sign on your treaty militarily, or economically. We were not invited to the discussions for the formation of this Pact, and you currently host a nation that was recently at war with Sverige on your Defense Council. Thank you for the offer however, and we wish you the best of luck with your venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Private to Members Alvonia wholeheartedly supports the Alexandrian request and approves of the modification to allow Mediterranean nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Private New Babylon concurs with Alvonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Director Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 OOC: Belarus has been voted in as a general member, but for some reason hasn't been listed in the list of members in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 OOC: Give it some time. Only California has access and he isn't on 24/7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shave N Haircut Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 France opposes the access to the European community of anyone outside of it on principle. While we applaud Alexandria on extending more progressive policies than their predecessors, we cannot, in good conscience, support their entry into Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 "What of Frances view that perhaps the regulations should be altered as suggested by the Baltic Union. Perhaps it should be time to open the doors a little wider to include the Med, as it does share common and intwined history with Europe." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) "What of Frances view that perhaps the regulations should be altered as suggested by the Baltic Union. Perhaps it should be time to open the doors a little wider to include the Med, as it does share common and intwined history with Europe." "Yes but then what is next? All of Africa? All Atlantic nations?" Edited June 9, 2014 by Rotavele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) The slippery slope argument is not a real argument. We are reasonable people capable of discussing the merits of individual ideas. Should the question of including all of Africa ever seriously be raised, I would gladly discuss the matter, and weigh the benefits verses what I feel are the principles of this body. Right now, I feel the inclusion of entire other continents is unnecessary and unwise. However, the Mediterranean sea has been essential to Europe. The Greeks and Romans, both considered European, were far more centred on the Mediterranean than the actual landmass of Europe. Algeria was long considered a natural extension of France. Both the Byzantines and Ottomans extended into the middle east. Even the Vikings of Scandinavia followed Assyrian silver down the Don and Volga. To deny the importance of the nations of the Mediterranean to Europe, is to deny fact. Edited June 9, 2014 by Uberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkfht Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) The Republic of Italy supports the admission of Ukraine. Edited June 9, 2014 by lkfht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongoz Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 "The Kingdom of Portugal has appointed Ambassador Olívia Cordeiro as the official representative to the European Community. In addition Portugal votes in favor of allowing Ukraine into this esteemed organization." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 The Empire of Babylon hereby sponsors the application of Alexandria pending a discussion and finalization of extending the European community to include traditional mediterranean states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 SOCSOV notes that an argument could be made that this should be called the "Eurasian Community," since the organization is not comprised strictly of Europeans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 The SOCSOV representative who had clearly sneaked into the chamber to proclaim such a thing would be arrested by a Babylonian contingent of guards and released into the jurisdiction of local authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) It is the belief that this bloc is not beneficial to the Greek people.I wish all those involved good luck as we pursue other avenues of corporation. -Sincerely Taek Muldo Diplomat of Greece Edited June 11, 2014 by Revan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Private to Members: I believe we have two discussions that need to be made; The first on the possibility of expanding the territorial mandate of the pact to encompass the Mediterranean. Secondly, I believe it would be appropriate to begin the vote on France's security member status, as the determined amount of time has passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphaia Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 After long consideration, Hungary-Slovakia has decided it doesn't much have a problem with Alexandria joining EC. We vote 'Aye'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Director Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Belarus votes aye on Alexandria's bid to join the EC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Private to Security Members We vote yes on admitting France as a security member. Private to General Members As the charter is currently written, Alexandria is not eligible to be admitted to the European Community. First, an amendment to the charter would have to be proposed and approved, before the admission process of Alexandria could proceed. Thus the Northlands views the current votes for and against Alexandria as premature. The Northlands has had no negative incidents with Aidennic Alexandria and our relations thus far have been cordial. However before an amendment to allow Mediterranean nations to join is proposed, we feel it is prudent to question whether having a nation that is geographically part of Africa would benefit the Community. Africa is known for its Africa-first policies and this could raise a serious conflict of interests should an incident occur involving both continents. How would Alexandria act if it were part of this treaty as well as supranational African one. Would it place one at a higher priority? As such we are neither withdrawing or providing support for their request until we better understand their motives and commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted June 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 The Northlands votes yes on the admission of Ukraine to general membership. The Ukraine is now a general member of the European Community and invited to send a permanent delegation to Brussels. Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 "The Ukraine votes yes towards the Alexandria Acceptance. You may look at it as being a European Only pact, but The Ukraine looks at this decision with Europe's Interest at heart. We believe this pact to be for the best of Europe, not a tree house to say 'Whites Europeans Only Here'. The benefits of Alexandria accepting this pact would be astounding for Europe. As a part of the Economic Agreement, Alexandria would most likely lower or abolish fees for moving through the Suez. This would benefit all of our economies greatly. The resources Alexandria has as a desert nation are many that cannot be found in Europe. The peaceful and general intent of Alexandria is one we can only look up to. This pact is not only good for Europe, but Alexandria gets benefits as well. They gain optional defense status with most of Europe, a Non-Agression pact with our nations, and economic trade enhancements from all of us. For us to look at Alexandria and say: 'We do not wish to sign a treaty to benefit both of our economies. Nor we do we wish to form a bond to prevent aggression between us because you are a little ways outside of Europe' would not be ethical in The Ukraine's eyes. It is for these reasons that The Ukraine votes Yes on Alexandria's acceptance." Premier Svetlana's speech would go on national television and would be applauded as one of her best speeches in The Ukraine to this date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 "That doesn't address the potential conflict of interests created by Alexandria's commitments to Africa as well as the commitments she is expected to bear should her application to this Community be accepted." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkfht Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 "The Republic of Italy supports the membership of Alexandria to this organization." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Pavlo Kozel would arrive in Brussels to represent the Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Perhaps asking Alexandria is the best way to ascertain what their government is thinking? We all know what assumptions can do. Alvonia abstains from voting on the French bid to security member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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