The Zigur Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Note: Although most of the older leaders know this stuff, this is written for the newer Nations, especially those in government or with government ambitions, to help them understand history. It is important to understand that sometimes short term gains are not conducive to long term prosperity, and learning the principles behind Francoism can help greatly with constructive decision-making in the long run. Vladimir/Unlimited holds aloft Franco's Star of Independence, The Pacific, Circa 2003 The Background of Vladimirist-Francoism (Pre-Cybernations) There are some names, which although have been long gone, still tower above history in monumental glory. Francos Spain, Poskrebyshev, Bertran Stantrous, InfernoIce, and Ivan Moldavi were some of the key leaders in forging the Revolution in The Pacific which overthrew the monolithic Userite (Bourgeoisie) power structure. This did not happen overnight: the Imperialists of the Atlantic Central Command had oppressed the superior people of The Pacific for years, infiltrating its culture and exploiting its native population. Eventually, these Great Leaders were able to overcome the division the Atlantic Command had instilled in the Pacifican People, overthrowing the Userite regime; this resulted in full blown war between them. It was the unity the violence of revolution caused which forged The Pacific into a Socialist New Order, overthrowing class boundaries and organizing society around an ideological core. It was the holiest of marriages, forged with blood and fire. And out of this revolution, the people of The Pacific prospered as they achieved newfound achievement and glory, strong and indivisible. After the Great Leader Francos Spain passed away, It was Vladimir who recorded unto prosperity the heroic achievements of the Pacifican People against Userite Imperialism and brought these lessons to our world, forging Order from Chaos. Through Vladimirist-Francoism, many primitive peoples, including my original Hawaiian Nation Neo Waianae, received Pacifican ideology and defeated imperialist colonial thinking in our own small replica of the Pacifican revolution. We learned that ideological and cultural unity was the key to overthrowing Userite thought and providing true freedom to our peoples. A chart describing the benefits of ideological unity and clarity from The Meaning of Freedom Foundation of Hegemony Hegemony, in Vladimirist-Francoism, refers to the development of global stability by means of Cultural and Ideological Unity, with military force only used to support this unity. Although the New Pacific Order here on Planet Bob was originally a colony of The Pacific, it soon grew into a superpower in its own right, becoming the most powerful alliance of our world. Through Vladimirist-Francoism, Order was rapidly built from Chaos on the global scale, as lulzists and republican democracies were consistently defeated in every corner of the globe. By the time I joined this world in March of 2007 as Junkalunka, Great War III would see the final defeat of the forces of chaos, and the Hegemony would reign supreme from then on, lead by Pacifica. However, some of the newer military officers of the NPO, while capable, paid little heed to classical Francoist ideology. TrotskysRevenge (also known as Moo-Cows) was once such military officer who rapidly rose in the ranks of Pacifica and would eventually become Emperor. Capable and beloved by his followers, he challenged the dominant charisma of Imperator Emeritus Ivan Moldavi and the ideological leadership of Vladimir. From Hegemony to Imperialism After the defeat of AEGIS in Great War III (2007), Pacifican culture was dominant globally, and Vladimirist-Francoism provided the ideological guidebook for the major world powers - often on a subconscious level. However, with this dominancy also came a shift in leadership in the NPO. Emperor TrotskysRevenge, knowing only military conquest, had become an Imperialist much like that of the ancient and nearly forgotten Atlantic Central Command. Beginning with the war against the Federation of Armed Nations, Pacifican ideology shifted toward Imperialism. With the failure of the Moldavi Rebellion in removing Moo-Cows from power, Vladimir would make a fateful career decision and endorse Moo-Cows as Emperor. I believe he did this thinking it to be in the best interests of the Order at the time, but years later he regretted the path this lead toward. Following the engagement of VietFAN, the Imperialist NPO would forge the Continuum on Dec 7, 2007. Abandoning the pretense of Francoism, the motive of this mega-bloc was purely Imperialist, leading to the mass-use of EZI and the conquest of all independent world powers, including the neutral Green Protection Agency, and my own alliance, the original Imperial Assault Alliance, from within which I was attempting to utliize and spread Francoist ideology. The rise of Vox Populi in August of 2008 signified the overwhelming public opposition of Pacifican Imperialism and would lead to NPO's downfall in less than a year. Due to the defeat of Neo-Imperialism in the Disorder War, we enjoy Global Stability today Will Stability lead to Hegemony or Imperialism? After the Disorder War, global stability has again been established, with the powerful union of TOP and Polaris capable of defeating any threat. However, whether this stability lasts depends upon the leadership decisions made by those who now manage global power. Without ideological clarity in decision-making, the mistakes of the past may again be repeated, whether Eternal Zero-Infrastructure or conquest of independent powers. For the current arrangement to last permanently, it is paramount that the imperialist voices around the world be marginalized, and that the ideals of the early Hegemony be again realized... a World Order dedicated to upholding the ideals, if not the exact words, of Vladimirist-Francoism in the modern day of age. For those who believe in re-establishing the full glory and prosperity of the early Hegemony, it means identifying and monitoring imperialist elements worldwide... even if they are our own comrades in arms. We have stability, but it is a stability bought by strategy and military superiority. What we need is strong ideological clarity in leadership... for powers such as the New Polar Order, and someday the New Pacific Order, to reach deep into their history and stand for a higher cause than the petty squabbles and feudalism which has dominated the global state of affairs since Karma. What we need is Francoism. Edited May 19, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 If I recall correctly, NPO was still pretty dominant after GW1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted May 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 If I recall correctly, NPO was still pretty dominant after GW1 NPO was always a powerful alliance, but I think the final victory was Great War III. From that point on there was no doubting NPO's dominance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 NPO was always a powerful alliance, but I think the final victory was Great War III. From that point on there was no doubting NPO's dominance. Sort of at first. After GWI, yes. The Citrus Wars and GWI, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Holton Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Is this real life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 We have stability, but it is a stability bought by strategy and military superiority. And this differs from any other time period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted May 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 And this differs from any other time period? Did you read the OP? Military might wins wars, but the shape of the stability that follows, and its long term success, depends upon what is built with that stability. Military might alone never brings complete hegemonic control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Shabazz Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 You invent a new ideology like every other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted May 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 You invent a new ideology like every other week. Do you even nation bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Do you even nation bro holy crap you're dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister black Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) History is for the man of the past. New nations are crazy war of hell bent destruction. This is and it's political power which it doesn't have anymore. This report of the npo.everyone know this already. It's basically on wiki Edit. I'm sure.if dbdc ever randomly chose to raid NpO or any allies of NpO would get wrecked. Personally I think dbdc is more in charge. Edited May 19, 2014 by Mister black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nooob Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'll just say it for everyone that's thinking it: TL;DR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir pwnage Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Is it me, or does this skip directly from Karma to the TOP-Polar treaty? And skip like... what, four years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'll just say it for everyone that's thinking it: TL;DR Military might wins wars, but the shape of the stability that follows, and its long term success, depends upon what is built with that stability. One of Tywins better postings I must say. Edit. I'm sure.if dbdc ever randomly chose to raid NpO or any allies of NpO would get wrecked. Personally I think dbdc is more in charge. I believe that has been Tywins point from the getgo. I think his posting has been facetious. Or maybe I am giving him too much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Did you read the OP? Military might wins wars, but the shape of the stability that follows, and its long term success, depends upon what is built with that stability. Military might alone never brings complete hegemonic control. I am sure the likes of ONOS, GOLD, VE 1.0, NAAC and even GATO would be in full agreement with you if they hadn't been stomped by overwhelming military might during your so called period of stability. Stability is a myth and if you think the current state of affairs is stable then you are sorely deluded. No surprise there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 History is for the man of the past. New nations are crazy war of hell bent destruction. This is and it's political power which it doesn't have anymore. This report of the npo.everyone know this already. It's basically on wikiEdit. I'm sure.if dbdc ever randomly chose to raid NpO or any allies of NpO would get wrecked. Personally I think dbdc is more in charge.Can we get Zulu to translate this halfway to English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) with the powerful union of TOP and Polaris capable of defeating any threat. The joke is really on me for responding, but I don't even think TOP or NpO would claim they could defeat any threat. CN's most cherished and honored law is CN Gravity. It might take years, but it's always is proven true. Edited May 20, 2014 by Steve Buscemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I am sure the likes of ONOS, GOLD, VE 1.0, NAAC and even GATO would be in full agreement with you if they hadn't been stomped by overwhelming military might during your so called period of stability. Stability is a myth and if you think the current state of affairs is stable then you are sorely deluded. No surprise there though. There has to be a belief that there is stability for it to exist. If you cannot maintain that stability somebody more capable will replace you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusitan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I am not sure if you were trying to be historically innacurate on purpose but it only reinforces the point that talking about Francoism is talking about bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 There has to be a belief that there is stability for it to exist. If you cannot maintain that stability somebody more capable will replace you. I don't believe there is stability therefore it does not exist. :P Every single alliance that has been the dominant influential power in this game has eventually been replaced by another and so on. Every single alliance or bloc that has been the dominant force in this realm witnessed its fall when its own power began to decline for whatever particular reason. I believe he did this thinking it to be in the best interests of the Order at the time, but years later he regretted the path this lead toward. I would like to see some proof of this bold statement. I had numerous conversations with Vlad on IRC during my time in NPO regarding past events within NPO and not once did he ever mention anything close to this. Not that I like to emulate Brehon's famous response to a certain Umbrellian but back it up or be dismissed as a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) 1. You are limiting yourself to thinking of individual blocs or alliances dominating, when in truth even when the dominant element they are still just a part of the wider world society. I speak of global stability and not alliance or bloc stability for a reason, the latter is simply too narrow in definition to be more than transient. Unlike the military might of a bloc which is fixed, an ideology draws its power from belief and faith. When a common ideology unifies a group of otherwise disparate alliances and leaders they are more likely to find enduring success. Its the only way to prevent stability from sliding into imperialism. It means an ideology that functions in reality but is also flexible in application, a short cut in thinking that serves the interests of its supporters. As to Vladimir, most of that was his public comments on his blog post-karma, where he generally regretted some of NPOs earlier actions during the Moo period. Edited May 20, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGulager Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 History lesson turned advertisement. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I speak of global stability and not alliance or bloc stability for a reason, I agree, you talk a load of complete and utter pish in order to gain attention. As to Vladimir, most of that was his public comments on his blog post-karma, where he generally regretted some of NPOs earlier actions during the Moo period. Point me to the blog where he says he regretted supporting Moo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I don't even think TOP or NpO would claim they could defeat any threat. CN's most cherished and honored law is CN Gravity. It might take years, but it's always is proven true. Steve is absolutely right on this. No alliance or sphere are undefeatable. The best any of us can do is make the cost of defeat high enough to be an unattractive target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortath Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 This history is ... peculiar. The Atlantic Central Command had no influence on the New Pacific Order. Rather, it could be said the other way around, as a certain Senator of the New Pacific Order was also the head of the Atlantic Alliance. The AA/ACC had no imperialist ambitions on [i]the[/i] Pacific, but rather it preyed on frail userite regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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