YOLO SWAG Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Good evening, and welcome to a YOLOZEERA exclusive. The Soul of Man under Stability For those of us daft enough to check the Open World Forums, there has been an increasing influx of propaganda disguised as a revolution, as an education program, and the most egregious disguise, journalism. Since Junkalunka's reroll as Tywin Lannister (a fact he will not have you forget), he has been on a campaign of lies regarding his past and the present to further an agenda that he claims supports stability. Playing off the fuzzy memories of old prominent cybernation rulers, the falsification and blatant creation of false statistics and fictional stories, Lannister has crafted a narrative compelling to new nation rulers and ridiculous to old rulers. In the early stages of the Disorder War an alliance leader, in its conclusion a ruler without a passport, Lannister has isolated himself from both sides of the treaty web by being a nuisance to everyone. Regardless of the facts and the situation Lannister has found himself, he still feels as though his cause is, to use another one of his terms, righteous. Tywin Lannister's first political move was ascending the ranks of House Baratheon to the position of Hand of the King. Shortly after he was removed for the position for, to quote metalbot the Master of Arms for The Seven Kingdoms known at the time as House Baratheon, "trolling" and "running a lot of FA stuff that seemed shady." metalbot goes on to say that once being removed from the position of Hand, Lannister initiated a Vote of No Cofidence against his King. (The logs of this conversation can be found in the spoiler.) How can Tywin Lannister consider himself a proponent of stability when in fact he was a direct and indirect cause of increased instability for an alliance in which he was serving as a second-in-command? [spoiler] 00:47 yolo Can you shed some light on why he was removed? Or maybe what reason he gave for leaving?00:47 metalbot he wouldn't stop trolling on OWF00:47 metalbot and was running a lot of FA stuff that seemed shady00:47 metalbot but it was mostly an image thing that was become distracting for us00:48 yolo I see. Yeah, the OWF doesn't seem to like Tywin's posts and he has been seen as the voice of HB.00:48 yolo But what exactly do you mean by shady?00:49 metalbot tywin was playing diplomacy what was good for tywin, and not necessary good for HB or our allies00:49 metalbot and there was a lack of communication from him about what was being said to whom00:50 metalbot i'm sure some lucky alliance will scoop him right up00:51 metalbot when i say that we wish him well, i mean that sincerely00:51 yolo Was he removed or did he resign?00:51 metalbot he was removed00:51 yolo Yes, it seems he's applying to MI6.00:52 metalbot he was not happy about being removed, and he's telling half a story about what led up to that00:52 metalbot but water under the bridge. i hope he finds a good home and can go back to doing what he likes to do00:53 yolo I wouldn't mind hearing the rest of the story, if you feel like telling it.00:53 yolo It'd make the story clearer, we know how Tywin can be quite the propagandist. 00:54 metalbot i resigned from government and basically said i wouldn't work with tywin anymore, because he broke commitments he made to me personally00:55 metalbot Kess fired Tywin, and I resumed my post. Tywin then attempted to call a Vote of No Confidence on Kess00:55 metalbot and then withdrew the vote when he realized he was going to get 0 votes00:56 metalbot then a couple days later he joined MI600:57 metalbot the whole process pretty much validated in everyone's minds that we clearly did the right thing00:57 metalbot but again, no ill will. he's a smart guy, pretty talented in working with people for FA00:57 metalbot just not a good match for us as an alliance00:58 yolo I'm sure. It seems like he just wasn't a good fit for you guys.00:58 yolo Exactly.00:58 yolo What personal commitments did he break if you don't mind me asking? Why so vague?00:58 metalbot he promised to stop posting !@#$ on OWF until the entire war was over01:00 metalbot i was pretty upset by the !@#$-stirring early on.01:01 metalbot we want to be known as an alliance that will stand by its allies and fight wars because our friends go to war01:02 metalbot not for OWF trolling01:02 yolo Was you asking him to stop trolling/posting on the owf something that the rest of HB gov wanted or was it you acting alone?01:02 metalbot no - that was clear from Kess as well01:03 metalbot and a couple other gov members went !@#$% over some of his posts to the point of quitting as well01:03 metalbot point of *almost quitting01:04 yolo and then Kess stepped in and removed Tywin to prevent the rest of his gov from abdicating01:04 metalbot i don't know if the rest of the gov would have abdicated01:04 yolo but a number of the gov?01:05 metalbot well, nobody (including Kess) wanted Tywin in government anymore 01:05 metalbot so firing him was pretty easy once there were clear internal consequences to his actions01:06 yolo But before leaving to apply to MI6, Tywin attempted to get Kess removed as King?01:07 metalbot yes, then withdrew the request for a no confidence vote a couple hours later01:07 yolo I'm unfamiliar with your charter, but was that also a bid for control of the alliance?01:08 metalbot well, i think he was under the impression that the other Hand would have become king and kept him as hand01:09 metalbot then he accused me of making a power play by resigning01:10 metalbot apparently not aware that i've been offered the crown once and the hand position 3 times 01:11 metalbot it was ugly, but ugly enough to convince everyone we're made the right choice01:11 metalbot tywin can go back to trolling OWF01:12 metalbot and hopefully he finds an alliance that he'll fit into well01:13 yolo Can you give me an example of the shady FA activities Tywin was getting into?01:14 metalbot i'd rather not go into those. it just felt like he was making commitments that weren't really commitments01:14 metalbot and they seemed to be pissing people off01:14 yolo people inside of HB or the people he was making false commitments to?01:14 metalbot externally01:15 metalbot internally he was fine. fun guy to hang out with when he's not making a political speech about the superiority of monarchy01:16 metalbot but i think when he joined us, he assumed that we were all playing the game of thrones and sought world domination01:16 metalbot and that's not who we are as an alliance01:22 yolo So he was making promises to alliances in the Polar coalition in order to make a name for himself or get in with the perceived new hegemony?01:22 yolo or he was lying to allies for the same purpose01:22 metalbot i don't know. something just felt shady.01:22 metalbot and our allies seemed relieved that he was gone.[/spoiler] How exactly did Lannister rise to power? By lying about past achievements with his involvement with alliances like Vox Populi, and the New Sith Order. In regards to Lannister's lies regarding Vox, Starfox101 said this, Oh no, you credited Tywinn with involvement in Vox. You've opened Pandora's box and continued to feed one of the biggest lies ever. Even the highly praised "Polardoxia" the name given to a sphere and which you will find repeated again and again in Lannister's drivel, are in reality annoyed with his interpretation of their politics and comment thus. mi6 is now soliciting offers from all of tywins spheres to make his posts stop sos for the love of Johan stop saying polardoxia. :psyduck: You try way to hard to paint everyone as an enemy of ours One of the experts of stability, through past and present alliance affiliation according to Lannister, had this to say regarding one of Lannister's many propaganda pieces. Literally every post is you trying to stir the pot bro New nation rulers are corrupted by Lannister, as made evident by the recent blog post by Loki Laufeyson titled, I Have Been a Fool. In which he blames his admitted mistakes in navigating Planet Bob's politics on, you guessed it, Lannister. There is not an act Lannister makes that is not in the complete opposite direction of stability. To paraphrase metalbot, "tywin [is] playing diplomacy what was good for tywin, and not necessary good for [others]." He corrupts alliances from within, lies in order to further his own personal agenda, attempts to spread lies and propaganda among nation both old and new, and all in the ironic name of stability. Lannister, if you are going to spreading propaganda and lies all over the cyberverse please find another name for it. Edited March 1, 2014 by YOLO SWAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 inb4 "Someone's obsessed!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Sums it up. Dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkavian Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Someone's obsessed! inb4 "Someone's obsessed!" Shit I just got burned. But really, this took like 10 minutes of my time, so whatever's clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) What?Just confirming what we all knew: Tywin is a hack. I mean he tried to change my clean pin over him into me tapping out. He's dirty. Edited March 1, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) I think to much stability brings stagnation, which is bad. Although I think your first mistake is taking him to seriously, I think he's just trying to have fun and bring some more life into this often times dull world, even if there isn't a strong purpose to it. While some of the positions he takes are borderline insane, he does provide some parody type entertainment value with some of his threads. If you consider the 'news' program he is parody the name of with the Lannister Factor, its not exactly known for its accurate and non-biased reporting. Even if he was the overly ambition member who nobody trusted with to much power in FCC, he was still a member and the FCC was a Libertarian alliance. He is doing an alright job parodying authoritarians if we already have threads trying to give serious answers to these catch phrases. Edited March 1, 2014 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkavian Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I think to much stability brings stagnation, which is bad. Although I think your first mistake is taking him to seriously, I think he's just trying to have fun and bring some more life into this often times dull world, even if there isn't a strong purpose to it. While some of the positions he takes are borderline insane, he does provide some parody type entertainment value with some of his threads. If you consider the 'news' program he is parody the name of with the Lannister Factor, its not exactly known for its accurate and non-biased reporting. Even if he was the overly ambition member who nobody trusted with to much power in FCC, he was still a member and the FCC was a Libertarian alliance. He is doing an alright job parodying authoritarians if we already have threads trying to give serious answers to these catch phrases. You input too much serious thought here, Methrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Even if he was the overly ambition member who nobody trusted with to much power in FCC, he was still a member and the FCC was a Libertarian alliance. He is doing an alright job parodying authoritarians if we already have threads trying to give serious answers to these catch phrases. This ain't serious, boo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 This ain't serious, boo. I guess this is what I get for responding after just reading the thread title mostly, although I said if just in case it wasn't. Using terminology like that I can't be wrong either way. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Nice smear piece. Love the misattributed quotes and empty allegations. Exactly what Id expect from someone opposed to stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Nice smear piece. Love the misattributed quotes and empty allegations. Exactly what Id expect from someone opposed to stability. I finally get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I approve of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Nice smear piece. Love the misattributed quotes and empty allegations. Exactly what Id expect from someone opposed to stability. No really - We all want you to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) I think if my work merits this type of libel, I am definitely doing the "right thing." The only thing accurate in the article was some of the stuff in the logs; metalbot and I are friends but we did have much different political philosophies and FA desires which did lead to conflict. Your deceitful and leading questions, misattributed quotes (some of which were not even addressed to me!), false assertions truly defines yellow journalism far beyond my entertainment and analytical based columns. Edited March 1, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 "libel"hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Im simply amazed you take quotes directed to stewie and say they are about me :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 No really - We all want you to stop. You can't convince a fool, that he's a fool.However, I did enjoy Yolo Swag's attempt at mocking idiocy, it is refreshing since I once took on such a noble campaign, in another universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Shabazz Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) To be fair to Tywin, I never attributed any of my mistakes to his influence. We are no longer on the same path, he will not follow my path and I will not follow his, and therefore I can't associate with him anymore. My mistakes, actions, words, and beliefs are mine and mine alone. The only thing I faulted him in that blog with was turning his back on me when I needed his assistance and support, which goes back to us being on two different paths. After following him all these months and him turning his back on me I felt betrayed, which is why I made that blog. Edited March 1, 2014 by Loki Laufeyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Promoting stability actually promotes stability and as a result we've seen an increase in stability rendering all of us more stable STABILITY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Stability through never-ending posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Im simply amazed you take quotes directed to stewie and say they are about me :facepalm: Your vice roi decrees you stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Until I can work my agenda from high government again, Im afraid the media remains my recourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Until I can work my agenda from high government again, Im afraid the media remains my recourse. This attitude is exactly why you will never be high government again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 This attitude is exactly why you will never be high government again. Never say never :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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