Spheres and Power

[Ogaden]

Every single alliance in CN has a sphere of influence around themselves, and in that regard would be too long to list.  I have attempted to construct here an outline of the power spheres I see existing today.  As you can see, a large number of alliances overlap over many power spheres.  In effect, these spheres are part of that alliance's power sphere as well, and often the 'tail is wagging the dog' especially where a sphere is connected to an alliance much more powerful than themselves.

 

AZTEC: DT, GLOF, Sengoku, AB, NSF

AZTEC Sphere of Influence: IRON, HB, Argent, DBDC

 

C&G: TLR, ODN, GATO

C&G sphere of influence: NG, NPO, NSO, INT, SL, TIO

 

Usual Suspects: R&R, NATO, TIO

Usual Suspects sphere of influence: NPO, RIA, TPF, LSF, GOD, GATO, LoSS, Argent, IRON, MCXA, Fark, Echelon, NPL

 

Aftermath/Sentinel: CCC, CRAP, TTK, MCXA, NADC, UPN, USN, GDA, Menotah (UPN is in both blocs)

Aftermath sphere of influence: RIA, GOD, Avalanche, Sparta, TLRep, Echelon, DB4D, NpO, TIO, LoSS, NpO, TOP

 

Beer-o-sphere: NpO, Sparta, Fark, MHA, AO, GO

Beer-o-sphere of influence:  RIA, Legion, Invicta, CCC, Avalanche, R&R, NPL, KoN, UPN, TOP, USN, MI6

 

Invict-o-sphere: Invicta, Legion, TLRep

Invict-o-sphere of influence: NpO, USN, Menotah, TTK, WAPA, Sparta

 

DoomHouse Platysphere: TOP, Umbrella, GOONS

Platysphere of Influence: MI6, NpO, UPN, DoD, TLR, DBDC, VE, INT

 

DuckRoll: IRON, AI, ML, Argent

DuckRoll sphere of influence:  Valhalla, VE, NG, GLOF, TIO, NPO, GRE, SNAFU, TPF, Sengoku

 

Die Linke: UCR, LSF, SWF

Die Linke sphere of influence: SL, TE, NATO

 

BFF 2.0: FEAR, NEW, WolfPack, Kaskus

BFF 2.0 sphere of influence: DB4D, Valhalla

 

Co-Prosperia: Kashmir, tJL, Riot Society

Co-Prosperia sphere of influence: SC, NSO, Doom Squad

Edited February 20, 2014 by Ogaden

[Auctor]

There should probably be some kinda NS delineation as to what constitutes a "power sphere". Something at least capable of fighting a sanctioned alliance head on.

[Ogaden]

There should probably be some kinda NS delineation as to what constitutes a "power sphere". Something at least capable of fighting a sanctioned alliance head on.

 

This is what a lot of people do but it's inaccurate.  There are large and powerful power spheres upon which the axis of the world turns, and there are small power spheres that probably couldn't take on a 2mil NS alliance, let alone a sanctioned one, but the political relationships involved are important and they are a distinct sphere.

 

Also like I said, every alliance has an individual power sphere are those are as important as the blocs and multi-alliance spheres, and actually are often more important.  NPO and IRON and NpO their private sphere and who is in it had a dramatic effect on the last war for instance, much moreso than any bloc.

Edited February 20, 2014 by Ogaden

[Auctor]

 

This is what a lot of people do but it's inaccurate.  There are large and powerful power spheres upon which the axis of the world turns, and there are small power spheres that probably couldn't take on a 2mil NS alliance, let alone a sanctioned one.

 

Power Sphere just connotes some kind of power projection capability to my mind, alliances being clustered on the web wouldn't make you a sphere as such.

[Ogaden]

Well let's look at things from a different perspective.  Why don't I put the aggregate power of the "private spheres" of the top 80 alliances

[The Zigur]

You're not looking at what exactly holds a power sphere together.

[Auctor]

Well let's look at things from a different perspective.  Why don't I put the aggregate power of the "private spheres" of the top 80 alliances

 

Runs back into the problem of who exerts influence on whom. That's kinda the weakness of all these analyses, we're looking at treaties and not necessarily inclinations.

[Saxplayer]

Damn, just forget about us will ya :P

I mean, NSF does have an MDoAP with DT.

And Honestly, I'd say that C&G and US are very close together treaty wise, almost as if they were their own sphere combined.

[Ogaden]

The top 12 let's start with

1: GPA sphere: 202 Nations, 16,684,313 NS, 82,596 Avg NS, 62.07 score, 743,523 Land, 2,442,049 Infra, 1,237,676 Tech
2: IRON sphere: 985 Nations, 37,958,756 NS, 38,537 Avg NS, 158.04 score, 1,180,780 Land, 5,104,079 Infra, 3,129,645 Tech
3: WTF sphere: 169 Nations, 15,678,248 NS, 92,771 Avg NS, 57.67 score, 779,144 Land, 2,110,154 Infra, 1,293,097 Tech
4: NPO sphere: 1164 Nations, 34,875,670 NS, 29,962 Avg NS, 153.50 score, 967,844 Land, 4,893,814 Infra, 2,893,637 Tech
5: PAX sphere: 110 Nations, 6,849,771 NS, 62,271 Avg NS, 26.35 score, 307,882 Land, 1,019,281 Infra, 518,475 Tech
6: NpO sphere: 1342 Nations, 46,028,324 NS, 34,298 Avg NS, 196.38 score, 1,096,507 Land, 6,613,928 Infra, 3,489,462 Tech
7: DT sphere: 364 Nations, 18,972,608 NS, 52,123 Avg NS, 74.88 score, 702,404 Land, 2,592,745 Infra, 1,594,839 Tech
8: ODN sphere: 693 Nations, 19,767,180 NS, 28,524 Avg NS, 88.07 score, 475,940 Land, 2,879,036 Infra, 1,630,722 Tech
9: Umb sphere: 540 Nations, 23,931,548 NS, 44,318 Avg NS, 97.05 score, 618,827 Land, 2,910,943 Infra, 2,121,039 Tech
10: R&R sphere: 758 Nations, 24,096,057 NS, 31,789 Avg NS, 104.58 score, 588,191 Land, 3,379,175 Infra, 1,938,168 Tech
11: TOP sphere: 710 Nations, 29,110,213 NS, 41,000 Avg NS, 119.76 score, 728,643 Land, 3,706,512 Infra, 2,492,013 Tech
12: Fark sphere: 1035 Nations, 34,064,078 NS, 32,912 Avg NS, 146.67 score, 782,023 Land, 4,842,157 Infra, 2,662,109 Tech

So ranked by sphere power, this list actually goes:
1: NpO sphere: 1342 Nations, 46,028,324 NS, 34,298 Avg NS, 196.38 score, 1,096,507 Land, 6,613,928 Infra, 3,489,462 Tech
2: IRON sphere: 985 Nations, 37,958,756 NS, 38,537 Avg NS, 158.04 score, 1,180,780 Land, 5,104,079 Infra, 3,129,645 Tech
3: NPO sphere: 1164 Nations, 34,875,670 NS, 29,962 Avg NS, 153.50 score, 967,844 Land, 4,893,814 Infra, 2,893,637 Tech
4: Fark sphere: 1035 Nations, 34,064,078 NS, 32,912 Avg NS, 146.67 score, 782,023 Land, 4,842,157 Infra, 2,662,109 Tech
5: TOP sphere: 710 Nations, 29,110,213 NS, 41,000 Avg NS, 119.76 score, 728,643 Land, 3,706,512 Infra, 2,492,013 Tech
6: R&R sphere: 758 Nations, 24,096,057 NS, 31,789 Avg NS, 104.58 score, 588,191 Land, 3,379,175 Infra, 1,938,168 Tech
7: Umb sphere: 540 Nations, 23,931,548 NS, 44,318 Avg NS, 97.05 score, 618,827 Land, 2,910,943 Infra, 2,121,039 Tech
8: ODN sphere: 693 Nations, 19,767,180 NS, 28,524 Avg NS, 88.07 score, 475,940 Land, 2,879,036 Infra, 1,630,722 Tech
9: DT sphere: 364 Nations, 18,972,608 NS, 52,123 Avg NS, 74.88 score, 702,404 Land, 2,592,745 Infra, 1,594,839 Tech
10: GPA sphere: 202 Nations, 16,684,313 NS, 82,596 Avg NS, 62.07 score, 743,523 Land, 2,442,049 Infra, 1,237,676 Tech
11: WTF sphere: 169 Nations, 15,678,248 NS, 92,771 Avg NS, 57.67 score, 779,144 Land, 2,110,154 Infra, 1,293,097 Tech
12: PAX sphere: 110 Nations, 6,849,771 NS, 62,271 Avg NS, 26.35 score, 307,882 Land, 1,019,281 Infra, 518,475 Tech

[Unknown Smurf]

Why would you put IRON in Aztec?

 

EDIT: GLOF/IRON treaty was downgraded I thought?

Edited February 20, 2014 by Unknown Smurf

[Unknown Smurf]

Also Co-Prosperity.. lol? RIOT got hit by a rogue and noone else in that sphere helped them.

 

EDIT: Also you nkow as well as me that SL doesn't fit in DL at all. They go with NSO.

 

DL (well UCR) fractured into like 3 alliances post war because they couldn't agree on FA.

Edited February 20, 2014 by Unknown Smurf

[Montosh]

Why would you put IRON in Aztec?

 

EDIT: GLOF/IRON treaty was downgraded I thought?

 

Ahh, no... :P

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Lines have been drawn.

[keeology]

Also Co-Prosperity.. lol? RIOT got hit by a rogue and noone else in that sphere helped them.

 

EDIT: Also you nkow as well as me that SL doesn't fit in DL at all. They go with NSO.

 

DL (well UCR) fractured into like 3 alliances post war because they couldn't agree on FA.

 

many alliances can fit into different spheres such as MCXA can be put into a few. SL fits into the DL sphere with the SL/LSF MDoAP and as well with NSO with that treaty.

[Max Power]

Interesting look at things but I agree with Auctor that not all the alliances up there project a ton of power. You're also missing a set NPOsphere, which I think is one of the most powerful in the game right now. (Let's arbitrarily call it NPO, NG, AI, TPF, NSO, US and C&G, or something along those lines. I'm sure it can be modified, just giving a general idea.)

 

I don't DBDC is in anyone's sphere of influence.

 

Co-Prosperia: Kashmir, tJL, Riot Society

Co-Prosperia sphere of influence: SC, NSO, Doom Squad

 

I like this one.

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Aztec are moving quickly but its unwise to be moving to their side and committing yourself to their agenda. Many political masters are in Polardoxia so I wouldn't bet on a horse yet.

[Auctor]

Anyone that says AZTEC moves fast must be talking about someone else.

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Anyone that says AZTEC moves fast must be talking about someone else.

Have you missed the treaties they've signed recently and the way they're shaping their sphere? They're starting to play politics at the top level by building and leading a powershere.

[Saxplayer]

Have you missed the treaties they've signed recently and the way they're shaping their sphere? They're starting to play politics at the top level by building and leading a powershere.

What treaties? Besides Sengoku joining AZTEC, AZTEC hasn't signed hadly any treaties in the past 3 months, In fact DT dropped their treaty with LoSS yesterday.

[Auctor]

Have you missed the treaties they've signed recently and the way they're shaping their sphere? They're starting to play politics at the top level by building and leading a powershere.

 

More than a couple of alliances have signed more treaties than all of AZTEC combined over the last nine months.

[Daenerys Targaryen]

What treaties? Besides Sengoku joining AZTEC, AZTEC hasn't signed hadly any treaties in the past 3 months, In fact DT dropped their treaty with LoSS yesterday.

Your only looking at a single bloc but you need to look at the powershere AZTEC and DBDC are building If you want to see the light. Well I make no promises, you might see it but you need to posses the minimum requirements.

[Mr Director]

Was I the only one who was hoping that Targaryen had quit?

[Daenerys Targaryen]

 

More than a couple of alliances have signed more treaties than all of AZTEC combined over the last nine months.

That is irrelevant. Expect many changes as people have new goals.

[Auctor]

That is irrelevant. Expect many changes as people have new goals.

 

It sure would make what you are saying sound more credible if reality matched it is all.

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Was I the only one who was hoping that Targaryen had quit?

Trolls have no effect on me so making me quit will be very difficult. The closest I've been to quitting was If admins didn't take down that rape depiction.