Yuurei Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Terran Empire - International Commonwealth of Nations Protection Pact Preamble With longstanding friendship as well as the belief that older alliances should assist in the development of smaller alliances, Terran Empire (TTE) extends its protection to include the International Commonwealth of Nations (ICON) effective immediately upon affixing signatures to this document. Article I Both TTE and ICON recognize, that while the spirit of brotherhood is strong, each are separate and sovereign entities in any and all matters not outlined below. Article II Both alliances mutually assure that neither signatory will defame, physically attack, spy on the other, or provide aid to a known enemy. Article III The Terran Empire, does hereby extend protection to our friends and brothers in ICON. Terran Empire pledges to offer both diplomatic and military aid in defense of any threats to the safety and security of our ICON brothers. As such, any unwarranted foreign attack on any nation or nations flying the alliance affiliation of "International Commonwealth of Nations" will be considered wholly to be an attack on Terran Empire itself, and will be dealt with accordingly. Article IV Should Terran Empire come under attack while this treaty is in effect, ICON is not required to provide any measure of defense. In such a situation, ICON will be permitted to make their own determination as to their course of action. Article V Raiding will not be permitted by any nation of the International Commonwealth of Nations for the duration of this treaty. Article VI The International Commonwealth of Nations shall neither sign nor announce any diplomatic agreements, nor go to war, without the consultation and approval from Terran Empire. Article VII Other specifics have been detailed and accepted in private. Article VIII This treaty shall remain in effect until ICON feels it is capable of providing for its own defense. It is the intent of both parties to establish a relationship that will last beyond this treaty. Article IX Should either party wish to terminate this treaty, a notification of no less than 72 hours prior to dissolution must be received. Signed for the Terran Empire: Yuurei - Chancellor of Foreign AffairsMichaelboy88 - Chancellor of AdministrationZeroRemorse - Chancellor of DefenseCheezDood - Chancellor of Internal AffairsOrikfricai - Chancellor of Finance Signed for ICON: Danger- Director of DirectorsCobalt Wolf- Executive FounderJsvcycling- Director of AdvisoryJohnny88- Director of Affairs Edited January 24, 2014 by Yuurei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 congrats to icon for finding a protector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunzzz Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) " This treaty shall remain in effect until UA feels it is capable of providing for its own defense. It is the intent of both parties to establish a relationship that will last beyond this treaty." Lol... Shows how much te cares for icon Edited January 24, 2014 by Hamilmania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Congrats guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Good luck. You're gonna need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Congrats on taking on yet another protectorate that probably won't flourish in any form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Century Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Congrats on taking on yet another protectorate that probably won't flourish in any form. Thanks man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Thanks man..Sorry but when you're led by someone who wanted to charge someone kicking his lower tier's ass to let the newbies tap out, there's not much hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Congrats on taking on yet another protectorate that probably won't flourish in any form. .....and the world keeps spining, most start ups die within the first year these days and that's if they're lucky. But I'm sure you stating the obvious was needed... Edited January 25, 2014 by the rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knights of the Grail Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) A tip of the gold chalice to TTE and ICON. May you find peace, growth, and friendship. Edited January 25, 2014 by Knights of the Grail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Nice to see ICON doing things right. I wish you the best of luck and congratulations on some good and honorable protectors in TTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 There's always one alliance out there that practically hands our protectorates as though they were free. It was the Apparatus for a while before they merged into Pax Corvus, seems like TTE has taken up that mantle ever since. So, good luck, I guess? I always want there to be more successful alliances out there but this announcement isn't an indication of any sort of quality or characteristics beyond existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 There's always one alliance out there that practically hands our protectorates as though they were free. It was the Apparatus for a while before they merged into Pax Corvus, seems like TTE has taken up that mantle ever since. So, good luck, I guess? I always want there to be more successful alliances out there but this announcement isn't an indication of any sort of quality or characteristics beyond existence. Apparatus also had a extremely loyal set of allies so I wouldn't knock the strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Congrats to my allies in the Terran Empire. To ICON you are in good hands. It pleases me to see that young alliances still have the opportunity to grow in this world. Edited January 26, 2014 by Cress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Signing protectorate treaties in the hope that the smaller party will disband and feed the other with more members is quite possibly the most cynical and disrespectful way of interacting with micro-alliances. Can't hail that. Prove their folly by surviving, ICoN. It's going to be very difficult (and I certainly don't bet on it), but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuurei Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Signing protectorate treaties in the hope that the smaller party will disband and feed the other with more members is quite possibly the most cynical and disrespectful way of interacting with micro-alliances. Can't hail that. Prove their folly by surviving, ICoN. It's going to be very difficult (and I certainly don't bet on it), but you never know. Terran Empire has never made any attempt to absorb any protectorate, or any other alliance for that matter. We put a lot of effort into helping our protectorates develop successfully. The realities are that some do, and some don't...but even those that collapse remain independent and protected for as long as members remain on their AA. We don't drop our protectorates just for having a hard time, like some alliances do. Additional notice: We are extending our protection of The Roman Empire through February as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Deschain Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Never was great at making protectorates work myself, but I gotta cheer your good intentions and relationship no less. May it be prosperous for both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Thank you for all of the good wishes. ICoN will survive and flourish with the Terran Empire's help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 We don't drop our protectorates just for having a hard time, like some alliances do. Even as a leader of a micro, I would say there are times when a protector is justified in cancelling a protectorate treaty, particularly if the two parties no longer found themselves able to fulfil their treaty obligations in good faith, or felt unable to reconcile differences - like any other form of treaty. I would question your recent history with protectorates; the performance of your protectorates seems to suggest that your effort has been wasted; a clear example being Ultra Alliance, which despite a (relatively) promising start, has failed to prosper as they could have. I'm cynical at times when it comes to alliance politics; this is one of those times, but I will not mind if I am proven wrong, unlikely as it may seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Even as a leader of a micro, I would say there are times when a protector is justified in cancelling a protectorate treaty, particularly if the two parties no longer found themselves able to fulfil their treaty obligations in good faith, or felt unable to reconcile differences - like any other form of treaty. I would question your recent history with protectorates; the performance of your protectorates seems to suggest that your effort has been wasted; a clear example being Ultra Alliance, which despite a (relatively) promising start, has failed to prosper as they could have. I'm cynical at times when it comes to alliance politics; this is one of those times, but I will not mind if I am proven wrong, unlikely as it may seem to be. He never said he would NEVER cancel on a protectorate. He just said he wouldn't if they were having trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolutionaryRebel Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 He never said he would NEVER cancel on a protectorate. He just said he wouldn't if they were having trouble. I considered the statement insofar as its relevance to the recent microdrama. In which case, the 'trouble' experienced by a micro was largely self-inflicted and (according to Sparta reps) advised against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuurei Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Unknown Smurf is correct in assessment of of my statement... There are indeed valid reasons for cancellation of protection, but I do not consider a lack of growth to be one of them. As for the reasons for my wording, I speak not of recent events, but of the past. Sparta's reasons for cancellation of TRE are their own. It is of no concern to me, and I actually find understanding of their decision given what I know of the events leading up to it. However, none of this has anything to do with this particular thread or announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRemorse Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 We of The Terran Empire are happy to provide protection, advice, and aid to any micro alliance that wants to begin the long hard path to becoming a full fledged alliance. Wether it works out or not is entirely dependent on the micro-alliances decisions as well as how well their government heeds our advice and maintains activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Unknown Smurf is correct in assessment of of my statement... There are indeed valid reasons for cancellation of protection, but I do not consider a lack of growth to be one of them. As for the reasons for my wording, I speak not of recent events, but of the past. Sparta's reasons for cancellation of TRE are their own. It is of no concern to me, and I actually find understanding of their decision given what I know of the events leading up to it. However, none of this has anything to do with this particular thread or announcement.Congrats on having better judgment than Sparta. Or not. Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Join the true Overlords. CA+TE=awesome. join the empire /Confederiation Aesir The Revolution is Near! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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