I am, but your point is contradictory. So which is it?
Not at all. You would do well to read what I said below to Ertyy, but just because I don't want there to be a legal way for a man to force his wife to have or abort a baby she doesn't or does want doesn't mean I think it's cool for the woman to completely disregard the wishes of her partner in deciding whether or not to have the child. And I'm sure that 99.99% of women would agree with that and do take their partner's wishes into consideration when making that choice, along with a lot of other things. If being a decent person was codified into law and punished appropriately for those who broke that law, this entire forum would become a wasteland overnight.
If this conversation keeps up much longer Hereno is going to be telling us that if the father didn't want to deal with a kid, then he shouldn't have been having sex.
This talk about the particulars of execution is a red herring. If the stats said only 5 guys pay child support and it's only $5.00 a month, the argument would remain unchanged. The war on drugs doesn't stop being as bad of a policy because some states are backing away from enforcing it.
I'm also intrigued by "it's your !@#$@#$ child." Why? I know I didn't get to have any say during the pregnancy. Was it because some of my semen was involved? What if I wasn't having vaginal sex with the woman? Am I off the hook?
I'm not pro-abortion; I'm pro-choice.
It isn't a red herring because the situation we're talking about rarely if ever happens and would never happen if the society I wanted to have these "policies" in existed. The only problems come when I try to stick what I believe into a system surrounded by contradictions and stupid !@#$ where the alternative to forcing someone to hand over money to pay for a child they don't want is that child being even more impoverished than it already is. Don't blame me because the system that exists today doesn't guarantee the basic human welfare of the people in it.
Hell, in many states, they're making it so that many people can't actually have abortions despite there being laws guaranteeing the right to choose. And in most of the cases where the man doesn't want the baby, I'd imagine that he's in the 60% of men who don't pay any child support at all - whether that be because the mother just doesn't want him involved at all, or because he is actively involved in the child's life or perhaps even still with the mother.
Furthermore, an argument could easily be made (and would be if Thrawn, Senji, etc. didn't care so much about "winning" the abortion debate) that a war on drugs against weed smokers is a lot different than a war on drugs against crackheads. I wouldn't support either, but there are plenty of people who hold the position that a war on some drugs is okay, but others not - in fact I would say the vast majority of people hold this position.