His Lordship Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Welcome to the fray, LoSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornguard Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Hahahaha I...what? This is hilarious. If I had morals, I would be outraged by this. Also I seriously hope NG fucks LOSS and VE into the stone age. Yay! Ugg break stone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I am laughing at Umbrella trying to do damage control for LoSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Well then, aptly named treaty at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AphexTwin Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Haha this is great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMercy Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I am laughing at Umbrella trying to do damage control for LoSS. You are a funny man. How's your damage control? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119107-non-grata-declaration-of-war/page-11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fant0m Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 You are a funny man. How's your damage control? http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119107-non-grata-declaration-of-war/page-11 We stood by our allies, knowing what awaited. We didn't invent a fake treaty to avoid defending them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 When TIO is being defended by ODN, you know somethings up :) They're perfectly good people, Andy. Except that Shinnra guy. He's bad news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm going to remember this precedent you tried to set. That you could attack anyone you wanted to and just claim there was a treaty there to justify the pre-empt. Would have been more fun to post a treaty announcement and declaration of war based on said treaty in the same thread. Missed opportunity, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholy Culkin Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Everyone of these tearful posts by NG and TIO makes it worth it. Although I heard that LoSS began reconsidering this move after finding out that ReytheGreat didn't approve. Edited November 6, 2013 by Melancholy Culkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) It feels like... maybe you should listen to your own advice... I really don't feel Umbrella has anything to say on the topic of loyalty. After all the shit we had to put up with from your leader before and during last war, this is truly amusing. You should be a comedian. Most alliance's loyalty to each other begins at the pragmatic usefulness of the tie and ends at the liabilities inherent in the tie as well as the limitations it imposes. Most alliances complaining here are truly no different in that regard, but are just a bit more subtle about it and thus feel they can hopefully point fingers without anyone acknowledging their obvious hypocrisy. It's really why I avoid coming here for the most part, but it just gets to be too much fun during the first few weeks of war. Case and point, all the whining and crying in this thread. It's the type of thing that gives me the nourishment I need to get through the rest of the CN year. Edited November 6, 2013 by LegendoftheSkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Goddamn man. Does the whining and e-lawyering never end? There is not a single thread on this entire forum that is free of your bellyaching. Losing sucks. We've all been there. Don't be remembered as the guy who refused to accept it. Just shut up and fight already. -Craig To be fair to Steve, he is fighting, I know since he declared on me. Let me tell ya guys, his nukes, they hurt a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da DreadLord Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 To be fair to Steve, he is fighting, I know since he declared on me. Let me tell ya guys, his nukes, they hurt a little bit. I remember those >.> FU Steve! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 To be fair to Steve, he is fighting, I know since he declared on me. Let me tell ya guys, his nukes, they hurt a little bit. You have been excellent fighters, that was a awesome 5-man coordinated blitz. I've had an F5'ing blast! I just don't think Craig really knows what whining is and how politics/posting style play out in the OWF. He's never talked to me personally, so he wouldn't really know how much fun I'm having. Usual case of pre-judging someone. No worries. Good times DDL, the nukes you got were weak compared to them now. :P Maybe after the war you can nuke me for old times sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da DreadLord Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 You have been excellent fighters, that was a awesome 5-man coordinated blitz. I've had an F5'ing blast! I just don't think Craig really knows what whining is and how politics/posting style play out in the OWF. He's never talked to me personally, so he wouldn't really know how much fun I'm having. Usual case of pre-judging someone. No worries. Good times DDL, the nukes you got were weak compared to them now. :P Maybe after the war you can nuke me for old times sake. I'll keep you to it :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 After all the shit we had to put up with from your leader before and during last war, this is truly amusing. You should be a comedian. Natan: I would easily throw ODN under a bus if it means I could start a war (paraphrasing) Case and Point. You deserved any and all you got from OsRavan for throwing us under the bus and then giving us the cold shoulder. Now you are turning on the ally that put the put the most on the line last war in terms of wars and pixels. Maybe that constitutes loyalty in Umbrella's book, but it sure doesn't in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnsworth Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Well, this complicates things. I do wish LoSS godspeed, though I don't condone the actions that have led them here. Honestly, I'm not too surprised to see this coming from VE, but I'd have hoped to not see LoSS doing something like this. There are few things in this realm that cannot be taken from you -- integrity is among them. I hate to see it wasted. I'll echo others in saying that I hope this treaty was indeed in the works prewar, not that it makes a significant difference. Anyway, I'll take the opportunity to remind everyone that LoSS is an ally of DT. I'm feeling a bit like I imagine NG was feeling during the opening stages of the Eq War... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 One of the few aspirations I have left in this verse is to be here when the last LoSS nation crumbles into nothing. Good fortune to Non Grata! Down with the League! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoADarthCyfe6 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 After all the shit we had to put up with from your leader before and during last war, this is truly amusing. You should be a comedian. Most alliance's loyalty to each other begins at the pragmatic usefulness of the tie and ends at the liabilities inherent in the tie as well as the limitations it imposes. Most alliances complaining here are truly no different in that regard, but are just a bit more subtle about it and thus feel they can hopefully point fingers without anyone acknowledging their obvious hypocrisy. It's really why I avoid coming here for the most part, but it just gets to be too much fun during the first few weeks of war. Case and point, all the whining and crying in this thread. It's the type of thing that gives me the nourishment I need to get through the rest of the CN year.Oh please, this is the biggest crock of crap I have read. We're talking about how many pixels and allies were burned for Umbrella's measly games and to even suggest this about ODN just goes to show you how arrogant you are. This also goes for CnG as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Now you are turning on the ally that put the put the most on the line last war in terms of wars and pixels. And exactly who was that? I can think of no one that really stood out to us in our coalition last war that isn't on our side in this one. Certainly not anyone currently in C&G. Honestly we were most impressed by and felt most indebted to TOP and, wouldn't you know it, here we are defending them this war. Edited November 7, 2013 by LegendoftheSkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 And exactly who was that? I can think of no one that really stood out to us in our coalition last war that isn't on our side in this one. Certainly not anyone currently in C&G. Honestly we were most impressed by and felt most indebted to TOP and, wouldn't you know it, here we are defending them this war. Maybe Umbrella should learn to read stat pages then. ODN was tops in most categories indicative of devotion (wars declared, NS lost, etc.). TOP was great for sure. But that doesn't make up for the middle finger to us. I'm not bitter. I'm just saying don't come in here and try to school someone on loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Baghdad Buscemi I dare say, that might catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm just saying don't come in here and try to school someone on loyalty. No, see you're the one going around various DoWs like Valhalla's trying to claim moral high-ground that your alliance has no business standing on. amossio was just defending his former alliance by pointing out that fact. Neither him nor myself have claimed that Umbrella is morally superior to anyone. We're just kind of wondering why you're going around spouting self-righteous outrage when your leader has engaged in shady political maneuvering as well. I mean I seem to recall you guys launching a pre-emptive strike on your treaty partner's blocmate back in grudge war right? Most would not consider that very loyal or honorable. And while we've done such things as well, we're not the ones taking offense to other alliances' actions in this war. We're not criticizing what you've done, but rather the fact that you did those things and then seemed to forget about it long enough to point your finger at other alliances for doing similarly shady things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) double post Edited November 7, 2013 by Overlord Shinnra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 No, see you're the one going around various DoWs like Valhalla's trying to claim moral high-ground that your alliance has no business standing on. amossio was just defending his former alliance by pointing out that fact. Neither him nor myself have claimed that Umbrella is morally superior to anyone. We're just kind of wondering why you're going around spouting self-righteous outrage when your leader has engaged in shady political maneuvering as well. I mean I seem to recall you guys launching a pre-emptive strike on your treaty partner's blocmate back in grudge war right? Most would not consider that very loyal or honorable. And while we've done such things as well, we're not the ones taking offense to other alliances' actions in this war. We're not criticizing what you've done, but rather the fact that you did those things and then seemed to forget about it long enough to point your finger at other alliances for doing similarly shady things. Goal post shift / Strawman much? It doesn't matter how you conduct war overall, it doesn't matter if you preempt someone who was going to come in anyway, when it comes down to it I've only commented on one issue and that was loyalty. I comment because alliances like Valhalla and LoSS have none and I find it funny that Umbrella (who has very little) is the one to come to their defense. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to decipher what I've been saying and yet you seem to be struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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