Max Power Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 You guys really have nothing else to do with your time do you? I don't understand what this guys beef with ODN is, but he seems to be absolutely obsessed with making fun of/trash talking about every post they make. Who gives a fuck what the vote percentage was? The treaty was passed and that's that. God damn, I'm sick and tired of people talking about stupid pointless shit on these forums! Get yourself made King of Sparta ASAP with an outlook like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Get yourself made King of Sparta ASAP with an outlook like that. Stratephor is having an effect on Sparta's members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 On the contrary, Bucovina stated that 90% of ODN is in favor of the treaty; however, knowing what we know about ODN voter turnout, I questioned the statement that "90%" and "majority" of ODNistas voted for it. So, when we examine how many voters there were, we find that we can only say that 40%, a minority, of ODNistas are in favor. As an aside, turnout is way up, which is good for a democracy. I understand where you're coming from, but voter turn out is almost always low in CN democracies. if 40% of ODN voted on a treaty like that, that's actually pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geerland Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I was pleasantly suprised by the turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 congrats on your treaty ODN and NPO. *insert witty remark about last war and ODN* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Who gives a @##$%& what the vote percentage was? The treaty was passed and that's that. How is it a true illustration of the opinion of the alliance if say, 5% show up to vote? I don't know the numbers and I'm sure it's much higher, but that doesn't seem fair to the majority opinion of the alliance if the vote is almost entirely based on the opinion of those that turned up (most likely gov members). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasuda Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) As much as I hate this treaty, can we please drop this lame argument surrounding the ratificaction vote? I really don't want to read 16 more pages of everyone acting stupid in a poor attempt at trolling. 40% is pretty great turnout for any vote in an alliance, especially one the size of ODN. I know this is the OWF and all, but Jesus Christ. Edited April 18, 2013 by Vasuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 As much as I hate this treaty, can we please drop this lame argument surrounding the ratificaction vote? I really don't want to read 16 more pages of everyone acting stupid in a poor attempt at trolling. 40% is pretty great turnout for any vote in an alliance, especially one the size of ODN. I know this is the OWF and all, but Jesus Christ. You're still allied to dad :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasuda Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 The NPO might be your sugar-daddy, but not all of Pacifica's allies need to be treated like children. We walk together as brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Either way, the only real data available is the actual vote, so that should be more heavily weighted than opinion/guesswork. Exactly. The "real data" is that less than half the membership voted, so we can never say that a majority of ODN were in favor. That's all. We could say that a majority of voters were in favor. [hr] I understand where you're coming from, but voter turn out is almost always low in CN democracies. if 40% of ODN voted on a treaty like that, that's actually pretty good. As much as I hate this treaty, can we please drop this lame argument surrounding the ratificaction vote? I really don't want to read 16 more pages of everyone acting stupid in a poor attempt at trolling. 40% is pretty great turnout for any vote in an alliance, especially one the size of ODN. Thank you all for your learned input, I direct you to your nearest reading specialist and my comments of yesterday which you are ostensibly "replying" to: to be fair, that is a far, far better voter turnout than the May 2011 numbers for participation (13% of 343 members). I was pleasantly suprised by the turnout. Me too. Good work. Has ODN instituted any changes in the system that would give an idea as to the cause for the surge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 A war is often an excellent stimulus to activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanore Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm way late to the party, but what the ever-loving hell. I'm not sure exactly whether I'm happy or just shocked beyond belief. Wow. This is amazing guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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