Lusitan Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1323323818' post='2868662'] Except you missed their ASG treaties [/quote] They have one conflicting treaty, so what? They have 5+ pointing the other direction. How many alliances do you know that will tell a large number of partners "look, we have this one treaty pointing the other side, so we're not doing anything at all even though all of you are fighting on this one". Common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Brandon Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Welcome Doomhouse! :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmmehhh Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1323323790' post='2868660'] There's two other Maroon alliances out there, ya know. [/quote] Give us time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='cookavich' timestamp='1323323882' post='2868665'] [i]things were so much better back then[/i] [/quote] they were for some of us! :colbert: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarman2010 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1323323750' post='2868655'] And.. No reason to be involved? [/quote] You missed the part where all of those treaties were non chaining. The only treaty obligation now is ASG is obligated to help us if we ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1323323750' post='2868655'] I already answered you. If they hold Mutual defense treaties with alliances at war with our allies they should clear that up to us or we might consider them a threat to our allies and act accordingly. The argument that if they haven't joined they aren't is simply ridiculous because everyone takes so long to join battle these days it means absolutely nothing. And.. No reason to be involved? TTK: CRAP: [/quote] Which allies of umbrella are you talking about, perchance? I don't see any direct allies that are involved in a war against TTK or CRAP allies. Unless you meant allies of your allies, which would just be silly. Edited December 8, 2011 by NoFish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1323324033' post='2868674'] They have one conflicting treaty, so what? They have 5+ pointing the other direction.[/quote] No actually TTK at least has a Valhalla treaty too. I'm too lazy to go look up CRAP's treaties, but I will eventually. [quote] How many alliances do you know that will tell a large number of partners "look, we have this one treaty pointing the other side, so we're not doing anything at all even though all of you are fighting on this one". Common sense. [/quote] UPN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danizduhman Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323323661' post='2868647'] Well, you see, Johnny Apocalypse just said they didn't hear anything about the neutrality until [i]after[/i] you communicated your intentions. Did he misspeak? [/quote] [quote name='Johnny Apocalypse' timestamp='1323323928' post='2868670'] Yeah sorry I did. I got word earlier tonight that TTK were aware that we were rolling before we actually did it. Yet no attempts were made to contact me or DH to say "hey if you are thinking of pre-empting us, don't because we're staying neutral" [/quote] [quote name='danizduhman' timestamp='1323323445' post='2868638'] No, it's about if I hear that an alliance is going to roll me, and I'm planning on staying out the war, I go tell them, "Hey, I'm staying out of this war." Then they say, "Okay." What is so difficult about this? [/quote] I still don't get what is confusing about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey remember that time GOD cried foul about FARK attacking an alliance without a CB. Oh you mean a DoS is a CB now and should be preemptively attacked? Well it's a good thing declarations of support are much more binding that mutual defense treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1323324033' post='2868674'] They have one conflicting treaty, so what? They have 5+ pointing the other direction. How many alliances do you know that will tell a large number of partners "look, we have this one treaty pointing the other side, so we're not doing anything at all even though all of you are fighting on this one". Common sense. [/quote] Also an ODP with Val and RoK. They are treatied to 3/5 of Mjolnir, who has been feuding with SF for months. If they really wanted to be involved in that war, those treaties wouldnt have been signed. TTK was not fighting this war unless someone did something ridiculous to the best of my knowledge. No idea about CRAP. Not that it really matters at this point in time~ I can understand the argument about not saying they were neutral however I'm really a lot more upset you got to CSN first. Edited December 8, 2011 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1323322475' post='2868542'] This skipped my mind, but you know what is kind of pathetic? GOONS hitting CSN. [/quote] So, so many jokes to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsuki Koizumi Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 All I see from this thread is "I'm gonna whine and waste my time complaining and being passive aggressive even though my side just got a bunch if new alliances and my complaining does absolutely nothing. Wah Wah." carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Timmehhh' timestamp='1323324113' post='2868678'] WTF [/quote] Unfortunately our options were limited due to our desires to not hit any allies of allies, so we had to settle for maroon minus GOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1323324571' post='2868698'] Also an ODP with Val and RoK. They are treatied to 3/5 of Mjolnir, who has been feuding with SF for months. If they really wanted to be involved in that war, those treaties wouldnt have been signed. TTK was not fighting this war unless someone did something ridiculous to the best of my knowledge. No idea about CRAP. Not that it really matters at this point in time~ I can understand the argument about not saying they were neutral however [/quote] Unless it's been canceled it appears they also have a low level treaty with GLOF. Doomhouse, that's an alliance on your side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1323324897' post='2868706'] Unless it's been canceled it appears they also have a low level treaty with GLOF. Doomhouse, that's an alliance on your side. [/quote] this is a recurring theme throughout this war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnKirk Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm reminded of the old days when I was relevant. Keep on truckin' cohorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1323324571' post='2868698'] Also an ODP with Val and RoK. They are treatied to 3/5 of Mjolnir, who has been feuding with SF for months. If they really wanted to be involved in that war, those treaties wouldnt have been signed. [/quote] Welcome to "Nominal Power" Mj... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Sparta has a treaty with Asgaard, an MDoAP even, and their bloc mate hit Asgaard. Fark has a treat with Polar, and hit an uninvolved supporter instead of TOP or IRON. Shall I go on? War is hell. Buckle up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1323324897' post='2868706'] Unless it's been canceled it appears they also have a low level treaty with GLOF. Doomhouse, that's an alliance on your side. [/quote] You could say this about most declarations so far this war, and the last. It's what happens when alliances have itchy treaty fingers and think it's sensible to sign agreements with anything that can scramble together a flag and charter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Dajobo' timestamp='1323324990' post='2868711'] Welcome to "Nominal Power" Mj... [/quote] Welcome to no power whatsoever, Polar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzarBomba Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 See you in 10 months CSN... maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Timmehhh' timestamp='1323324113' post='2868678'] WTF [/quote] They're not getting involved that was just a rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Dajobo' timestamp='1323324990' post='2868711'] Welcome to "Nominal Power" Mj... [/quote] More like "Welcome to your future when we had no more use for you MJ." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1323324935' post='2868708'] this is a recurring theme throughout this war [/quote] [quote name='Denial' timestamp='1323325045' post='2868714'] You could say this about most declarations so far this war, and the last. It's what happens when alliances have itchy treaty fingers and think it's sensible to sign agreements with anything that can scramble together a flag and charter. [/quote] Yea, anyway have fun. I think we can all agree NPL needs to be smashed so... enjoy that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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