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  1. 1. The alliances TTK, RIA, CRAP, SUN, NADC, Invicta, OG and Legion agree to peace with the M3D/Oculus coalition consisting of the alliances of NG, NoR, TLR, NPO, IRON, Umbrella, ODN, VE, NpO, DT, GATO, NATO, SLAP, GLoF, COBRA and The A-Team. 2. No further wars are to be declared by either side as of the posting of this announcement, existing wars may be ended at the discretion of the nation rulers in question. Any wars declared after this agreement shall result in reparations. Exceptions are made to this in clause #6. 3. TTK, RIA and CRAP agree not to provide support to more than one candidate *between them* per election in the Maroon senate. The need for this term shall be reviewed after a period of six months. 4. The alliances of M3D and the Chestnut Accords agree not to sanction one another or to otherwise intentionally use their senate seats to the other party’s detriment. 5. Alliances getting peace agree to not reenter or provide financial assistance in any of the ongoing conflicts against Oculus and its allies. 6. The alliances of TTK and RIA shall remain at war with the entirety of the M3D bloc for a period of 13 additional days, at which point clause #2 shall come into effect. Chestnut Coalition Signed for The Templar Knights Merick, Grand Master Marshals: Blackatron Mandystalin Rustikus Northern Empire Elder Council: Tiger c Konstantine Necron681 Teredona, Patriarch Signed for the Random Insanity Alliance Shadow, By the Grace of Cactuar, His Glorious Excellency The Most Holy, Blessed, and Venerable Lord Cactuar of Random Insanity and the Dominions and Territories thereunto belonging, Captain Planet Emeritus, Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Realms of the Cactuar, Defender of the Faith, Guardian of the Funk, Grand Master of the Most Noble Sovereign Military Order of Cactimus Prime, Central Commander of the Nintuar Clan, Leader and Guide of the Rivolucion, The Ultimate Lifeform, Mystic Dragon Emperor of the Cheeselands, Archduke of Disorder, Overlord of Lunacy, Puppetmaster of Chaos, etc. Floridian Council, Cactimus Prime dester55 Gigantuar Leo, Hello Liz Funktuar Mogar, Emperor of the Royal Ariana Grande Empire, Minister of Mogar Affairs, Minister of Attention, CN's Psychologist, Captain Planet Emeritus, Former Pink Senator, Frequent nuclear rogue, First!, Master of Amsging, Banned for your Sins, King of Notaries, Dual Member of The Bear Cavalry whether they want him or not, Defender of all of the cybernations waifus, Scourge of the low tier, Maroonity Forever, still working on coming up with more titles to catch up to Shadow, All Around Nice Guy, Also Hello Electron Sponge. Signed for the Coalition of Royal Allied Powers Chuck Normis - Triumvirate, Lord Zort and the savior of all LIltrekkie - Triumvirate, The real wonder hamster. Signed for The Legion deathbiter - Imperator tom the pit leader - Consul of Foreign Affairs and Defense CodFCS - Consul of Internal and Economic Affairs Konkrage - Elected Imperator Emeritus Regent Pancras - Elected Imperator Emeritus Signed for the North Atlantic Defense Coalition Bernkastel, Secretary General Chunky Monkey, Deputy Secretary General Signed for the State of Unified Nations Fen Dorbek, SUN Emperor Signed for Invicta /s/ King Biscuit, President of Invicta /s/ Thrash, Minister of Foreign Affairs /s/ Rotty, Minister of Doggos and Puppers Signed for the Old Guard TexWheeler Triumvir of Security Lan Mandragoran Triumvir of Internal Affairs EEjack Triumvir of External Affairs For the M3D/Oculus coaltion Signed for Non Grata Caustic: Power Top Abshire: Papa Bear Schrodinger: Professional Twink Signed for Nordreich Kaiser: Oro Ibah Aozpi Kronprinz: Latexi Reichsmarschall: Kristjan Laidoner Stabsoffizier: Johan Pitka Reichskanzlerin and Reichsminister of Foreign Affairs: Kaiser Hanssen Reichsbanker: PuliSher Reichsminister of Culture and Propaganda: Trebs Signed for The Last Remnants Kestral Elorian Hombre de Murcielago Signed for the New Pacific Order Lord of Darkness, Emperor of the New Pacific Order Prophet of Orion Shadow of the Order Jesse End, Imperial Regent of the New Pacific Order Dan100, Gumpper, & Nemphesis, Imperial Officers of the New Pacific Order Signed for the Independent Republic of Orange Nations The Warrior, President, IRON Councilor Blade 619, Minister of Defense, IRON Councilor Rhizoctonia, Secretary of State, IRON Councilor Hertt, Minister of Internal Affairs, IRON Councilor Mandarijn, Minister of the Vault, IRON Councilor Signed for Umbrella Roquentin, President Signed for the Orange Defense Network Bucovina, Secretary General Hershey, Secretary of Defense Franziskaner, Secretary of Interior Nikolay, Secretary of State Senate LXXVII: OsRavan, Dr. Hrmmm, Azkar, Hawspiper, Soccerbum Signed for the Viridian Entente Supreme 142, Lord of the Viridian Entente Austrailia, Duke of the Entente Azure, Secretary of Defense Blkandwhitlion, Secretary of Economics Signed for the New Polar Order EaTeMuP - Emperor AlmightyGrub - Regent, Imperator Emeritus HannaH - Minister of Truth Emperor Jason - Minister of Peace Quantum Leap - Minister of Love bluesam3 - Minister of Plenty Signed for the Dark Templar Starcraftmazter Terrence Krillins Supa_troop3r Triumvirate Signed for the Global Alliance and Treaty Organization GATO General Assembly Alexio15, Assembly Chairman Crv24, Deputy Assembly Chairman Tevron, Minister of Foreign Affairs Diomedes, Minister of Defense Overlord Wes, Minister of Domestic Affairs Sir Kiloist, Minister of Finance Signed for NATO NATO Council/Elders/Usurpers Shadowstriker Lenny N Karl TaylorLuckyLee Johny07 Ionabis Matt Colst0ne Old Self Grand Lord of Funk Anu Drake Signed for the Sovereign League of Armed Powers Banned, the Blood God Signed for the Grand Lodge of Freemasons Monkeybum Grand Chancellor of GLoF Obscurus Grand Old Fart Alexg314 Grand Master of GLoF Signed for COBRA General Kanabis, King Cobra Signed for The A-Team John “Hannibal” Smith~ Templeton “Faceman” Peck~ Bosco “B.A.” (Bad Attitude) Baracus~ H. M. “Howling Mad” Murdoch~
  2. I feel like I'm spamming this thread a bit at this point, but just to state a few things: Most importantly, I don't want people to think clause 6 was imposed on us by NG or whatever, both sides consented to that, NG aren't being bully's here. I'd like to thank Caustic, Schrodinger and Lord of Darkness for helping to get this over with. Finally rI'di likep tos given myx thanks to all our friends and allies for the support they have given TTK this war.
  3. Seriously? Your MoFA No, I didn't spend 20 minutes formatting this and bolding for a fake announcement.
  4. 7. M3D, RIA and TTK secretly agree to [REDACTED] Indeed that's a lot of sigs. I was literally 3 minutes late from bolding all the alliance names. o/ peace
  5. It takes a while. For future reference; probably worthwhile to with hold further monetary contributions towards the game until you are larger and a bit more familiar with the mechanics.
  6. I have not been around for as long as many, so please correct me if something I say is factually inaccurate; In every political grouping historically there has naturally been a mixture of efficiencies within each sphere or grouping of AAs, some would purchase at good* rates and others at not so good rates, all with varying slot efficiencies. There would also be a decent number of alliances that worked towards running at the highest efficiencies, and although many of them might be clustered together, they would overall be distributed throughout the game politically, this ensure that even when the game was heavily tilted (which it almost always was) there was at least some competition between the two opposing side. Of course activity decline over time and you end up with fewer alliances working towards high efficiencies. Then the 3 major alliances with said high efficiencies ally one another and the other side is put into a position where they cannot compete. Now we have it where only 3 major alliances have systems where they work towards high slot efficiency buying at good rates: NPO, IRON and Umbrella. (Umbrella is amazingly below 70% for the first time since I have been checking.) 2 smaller alliances I can think of have implemented their own systems: ISX and SLAP (although ISX is not what you would call a good rate) A handful of other alliances in the top 40 put in a decent amount of work trying to get tech production going at a decent rate, but with varying amounts of success. That is tech production in 2017 in CN in a nutshell. So I don't think these policies have made it a two tier game, because these policies mostly seem to pre-date the current tiers emerging. I think slot efficiency is of greater concern than rate, quite honestly; if you're in a typical AA where half of the alliances uses none of its slots at any given time, and the other half only uses at average of half of its slots, you are looking at 25% efficiency. Now switching from 6/100 to 6/200 is a 33% increase in tech intake, from 9/200 to 9/300 is a 12.5% increase, that simply isn't going to make enough of a difference to help catch up/keep level with the aforementioned AAs. I also think it is an error on your part to think that Junka is the only one outside of Oculus to consider such things, others simply post less frequently on the OWF about their intentions. *Used "good" to mean more tech per lot of cash.
  7. Interested on getting opinions on what this war should be called. Personally not of the fan of the current "official" name; "Maroon Dominance War", which I find both less interesting than other names, and see as something no one on my side of the conflict would actually use. What I see as the merits of each option: Holy S*** War; names for the alliances hit in the initial DoW (GOD and CRAP) really like it, but unfortunately has to be censored in some contexts, which makes it worse to work with. One Big Angry Family War; like this one as well, based on the recently cancelled "One Big Happy Family Accords", has the abbreviation that (IMO) works best: OBAF War. If you like it but would prefer another word to "angry" with something else. Maroon Dominance War; already mentioned why I am not a fan, also the logical abbreviation is; "MD War", which sounds like it is referring to treaties, which would be misleading. Maroonity War; sounds cooler than the above option, but not many other merits IMO Chestnut-M3D War; descriptive and to the point, biggest issue is if people say CA(Chestnut Accords)-M3D War, many will think of Confederatio Aesir. Happy to add other options if people like them.
  8. Well if that was a possibility then; why didn't you?
  9. Ultimately "raiding" is just launching wars with the intention of making a tangible profit; tech, land, xp, money, or casualties. Who's considered an acceptable target for raiding is up to the individual alliance and raider. In some cases this decision may be based upon respect for the sovereignty of other alliances, however in others the raider can afford not to care about such niceties and will raid whoever they think they can get away with without taking damage, so the decision whether or not to raid is mere risk vs reward. Alonso was engaged in high risk raiding against those who he judged wouldn't provide any real opposition, he did very well for a while, acquiring a lot of land, although a few people did fight back and some did quite significant damage (which undoubtable contributed to his small warchest) I know because I kept a close eye on his warscreens over the last few months. I also knew that eventually (assuming he continued) he would make a poor judgement and he would get his nation (and possibly the rest of PoSSE) beaten up for it. This is that; WAPA was obviously not a smart AA to raid in hindsight. Some of us would like to bring ethics in to this, but more important are the facts: Alonso engaged in high risk raiding against aligned nations. He inevitably made a misjudgement resulting in him being countered. He then decides to stop logging in to avoid the consequences of his actions. PoSSE then decides to defend their sociopathic government member who is happy for them to all to face the consequences of his wars, but has little enough attachment to dodge them himself. That's it.
  10. Err... I mean I know OWF trash talk is a thing, but with the application of some logic it would be pretty clear than all of our fighting nations at or above that level did fight to ZI and have kept fighting, since we have been at war with a much larger force for like 2 and a half months now. The people left in that range are primarily either way too inactive to fight in any capacity, or people that literally joined when TTK was an effectively neutral alliance and have kept to those ways, why would we bring either group out of PM? This hasn't changed the rate of peace being achieved at all. On a somewhat related note there seems to be a trend of people implicitly or explicitly expressing the idea that our side has intentionally been stalling the progress towards peace for no good reason. I don't know where this has come from, but really isn't the case.
  11. Of that I have no doubt, onwards indeed. I feel as if you hatred of Mogar is annoying me. My alliance is fighting half of the game ATM, Mogar launch like 3 wars in the low-mid tier against SNX over a year ago, and yet you seem more angry than I am. Get over it.
  12. Being in Umbrella's Discord channel, I wouldn't describe Auctor as "former Umbrella".
  13. I'm sure Auctor is a good fighter, but not sure you can blame everything on a single nation joining the enemy. Also lol at Alonso going inactive immediately after screwing over his alliance.
  14. ... Well I can't disagree with much of that, but isn't it all a bit hypocritical?
  15. Well your war is completely separate to the other wars going on, plus WAPA is actually smaller than PoSSE , so your complaints are pretty unjustified. On an unrelated note, how are you enjoying bending over and giving away your land and tech?
  16. Who the $%&@ are you even?
  17. We at TTK, RIA and CRAP believes that sanctions should be reserved for rogues
  18. Damn, nearly 2 months ago. Scary. Special shout out to LordNettles and ALFERALFER; the only 2 that have actually beaten me so far, also a less special shoutout to all the people who weren't noobs who didn't bother to bring Guerrilla camps.
  19. Following the deletion of our comments on the Maroon senate The Templar Knights declares war on Non Grata. Signed Merick, Grand Master Rustikus, Marshal of Defence Mandystalin, Marshal of Members Blackatron, Marshal of Foreign Affairs Elder Council, Lord Konstantine Necron681 Tiger c Patriarchs Teredona Hawkeye
  20. Actually I kind of agree with this; far better from an alliance perspective to have most people gaining tech at a moderate rates than a handful gaining quickly. For many of the people posting here: those from Umbrella, IRON and ISX, as well as NPO, tech trading is all sorted out centrally, so finding tech deals as an individual doesn't matter. For a majority of players they are likely to have to do some work to find tech trade partners (even if their alliance gov does provide help), as such what matters the most in terms of tech growth is simply using your slots, which is far better than not using them/delaying because the rate offered is not the preferred one.
  21. SUN's last 2 wars were the Doom War and Disorder war. Which is the same as the last two for TTK and a lot of other alliances.
  22. I don't actually disagree with any of that, honestly most alliances are so inactive (on both sides of the war) that it is easy for active people to laugh about their enemies inactivity and general rubbishness, even though their own alliances are pretty much the same. Although I'm unsure why you are demeaning SUN in this sense? Why are they so much less important than any other AA on our side of the war?
  23. Wait, SKW is the one talking crap?
  24. Here's a table: How are lower rates worse for new nations? In terms of speed, they gain cash at less than half the rate on 6/200 compared to 6/100, when they do switch to buying they will gain tech at only 4/3rds of the rate; hardly a massive improvement. The Cost should really be a non-factor, a nation that is switching to buying should ideally be in a position to pick up the WRC soon after, so should have in the region of 8K infra and all/close to all the lower tier econ wonders. Fully agreed. Many are desperate to move on from selling because they just want to be bigger, and because many hold anti-small/new nation attitudes, but there is no reason why it is more entertaining to be big than small.
  25. Yeah, this should have been done ages ago, ones I know: IRON: https://discord.gg/ngafHrh Umbrella: https://discord.gg/H4mWDsB NpO: https://discord.gg/6NUdnSa SLAP: https://discord.gg/pUX6HGe ISX: https://discord.gg/2CPYhWG I've not included a few which I believe don't want a lot of randoms coming in, my criteria was; if Junka's there, then they will allow anyone.