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Van Hoo III

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  1. I'm a little rusty (and old), but I think it is proper to hail them all.
  2. I'm going to level with you because I feel somewhat sorry for you: You are the last person who should be posting in this thread. If you're wondering why then I will clue you in on what MI6 gov already knows. MI6 "private" conversations are not private. Every lie you told, every comment you made about us, every false claim you made? We read it. They were not made in a safe place where it won't get back to us. Your words were not shrouded in secrecy nor were they protected by the individuals in those channels with you. Now, think back (lol) to your return to MI6 and mentally go over anything you might have said or claimed. Once you have, it will dawn on you as to why we take any comment you might make with a very large grain of salt. It would also explain why your posts in our embassy and presence in our IRC channel is met with a lukewarm response at best. Take care, Bern.
  3. All right. I'll make a diagram or flow chart, I guess. 1. Chim claimed that the last person he badgered was Xanth, and Shuru pointed out that someone in this very thread has already stated that he did it just last night. Chim stated that it's wartime and that he doesn't see an issue. I was pointing out that Doch is just one example. 2. People keep pointing out this poaching thing as if that's why this happened. I am pointing out (again) that while it's an annoyance (especially after they repeatedly declined), that it isn't the reason. 3. This statement points to how often it happens and how it's pretty much a joke to us at this point due to it's frequency. All caught up now? EDIT: Man, I should have just let Levon handle that.
  4. That's what we call an example. As I already said, poaching isn't really a massive issue and definitely not a reason alone for war. It is more of an annoyance and is frustrating when telling you "no thanks" doesn't seem to stop it. "Chim just tried to recruit me again lol" has been a pretty frequent statement in our backchannel since our DoE. Sort of an ongoing joke for us at this point.
  5. See? He's typing. It's his tell. We don't need "excuses" to have an issue with you, Chim. You gave us all the reasons we need to join in when someone wanted to roll you. Par for the course.
  6. Where ... did I say we declared on them for poaching? I think I've made our reasons for attacking pretty clear, as has the other alliances involved as of today. While incessantly attempting to get our members to join MI6 to the point of annoyance is lulzy and a mild nuisance, that alone is not a reason for us to attack anyone ... nor was it. EDIT: Also: If our reason was "because they are threatening and easy", then this would have already happened long ago. I don't mean this to sound snarky, but MI6 is known to be an easy target and have been for a long time. That was true when I was a member and is still true now.
  7. Know how I know when Chim is lying? He's typing. The fact that you honestly believe that "OPSEC" is the reason we left makes it difficult for me to have this conversation with you. I understand OPSEC and have historically employed it. That's not the reason I (or most of us) left. Come on Merger, you can do better than that.
  8. Oh Bern. lol I can't take you seriously when you say things like " you sign a billion treaties to ensure you get in on this rolling " ... It's been brought to my attention that this comment was due to another plane of existence that I'm not familiar with. Sorry to break it to you, but I honestly know nothing about that and the comment you're quoting won't help you. Sorry!
  9. "You" doesn't mean you personally. While we've seen plenty of conversations and logs in regard to us, I don't recall you being in them or at least weren't involved in any of the negative commentary. Gold star for you. I don't need other parties to form an opinion of Chim's involvement. I saw it when I was a member and have seen it after I was gone. Perks of having plenty of friends in MI6 at the time who were not amused at what he was trying to do and the amount of dishonesty he exhibited. Like it or not, that still reflected on you.
  10. You are correct, we haven't had any recent issues ... but are incorrect about why no attack came. Of course you're bigger than us, but we could have had any number of alliances sign up for such an attack along with us. We chose not to. You're welcome. Being quiet is great and not an awful idea, but doesn't magic away past transgressions. Again, when you act towards an alliance as some of yours have and the day comes where they have a decision to make ... well, you already made it for them.
  11. Not sure where I lost you. We didn't start the war, so stating it was started "at least partially" for that reason wouldn't be accurate ... unless you mean that the war started due to you (or some of you) doing their damnedest to be unlikable to multiple alliances, then I guess you can see it that way in a basic context. The war was started by other folks for a list of reasons posted elsewhere. We were asked by multiple allies if we wanted in. Since we have had prior issues and dislike you (with some exceptions), then saying "yes" was easy. So no, our DoW isn't a direct result of past issues, but no, it didn't take any arm twisting when multiple allies asked us to enter as well. Pretty simple really and not all that dramatic I'm afraid. tl;dr - don't be frustrating d-bags and people won't want to roll you and would be more inclined to decline when asked to help.
  12. As someone who has been "No One of Consequence" multiple times over the years, I can tell you that it doesn't work that way. Good luck, folks!
  13. We had no interest in attacking an alliance that was just rebuilding after getting rolled, regardless of Chim's ongoing idiocy. Like I said, some might disagree, but we're not attacking them over any of that. That stretch of stupidity just made joining in an easier decision to make.
  14. You're probably right. Good call. lol I'll agree that it probably wouldn't be a fruitful conversation here at this moment.
  15. To be fair, we aren't attacking you over those problems. They are, however, what made it easy to agree to help when asked.
  16. I found the treaty text to be long and overly complex so I didn't bother reading it. Can we get a tl;dr? Thanks.
  17. It was definitely a coup attempt regardless and you know that. Furthermore it was a coup attempt over nothing. Absolutely nothing. I led RoK at the time that you are implying, so yes, you are indeed talking about me whether you mention me personally or not. Are you implying that someone else in RoK attempted to disband AB and you (cue laughter here) had a hand in preventing it? Neither of those make the slightest bit of sense. Lastly, you don't get to make a false claim publicly and then say "Hey man, water under the bridge it was a long time ago!" when you get verbally backhanded for it. I like you Sarkin (as well as many members of your alliance), but I didn't bring it up. So, if you don't mind, I am going to continue making Haf look foolish. It makes me feel nostalgic. If he wants to stop posting (which historically is what happens in a Haf v Hoo debate), then that works.
  18. Since you're quoting someone making a false claim against me personally, I am going to assume that you agree with it. So, I will also tell you that you are completely incorrect. We (and SF as well) disliked the failed coup attempt that was a knee jerk reaction to something that wasn't even happening. Once you decided to move on and create an alliance, very few of us cared anymore. Ultimately it all worked out for everyone anyway and (Xiph aside, apparently) there were eventually no hard feelings. Sure, we weren't on eachother's Christmas Card list, but Ragnarok didn't have a single conversation about disbanding you or "destroying you" and guess what? Had we wanted to we simply would have. It's cool that you guys are celebrating your history. You deserve to. You lasted way WAY longer than most alliances do and that is something to be proud of. Don't taint it by drudging up a long dead (and honestly brief) grudge and sensationalizing it so that it seems like more than it was.
  19. Why on EARTH do you insist on constantly being inaccurate? We never tried to "disband" anyone and you of all people certainly couldn't have stopped us if we did. Xiph of GOD, however, did want to disband them during Karma when I was tri of Nemesis. That was a frustrating time. lol Anyway. Wasn't a fan when you DoE'd, but I don't know you at all now so no hard feelings. Always sad to see anyone disband these days. Best of luck, folks.
  20. ROLL PPO! ... er ... Congrats on peace, friends!
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