Cyber Nations Forum Rules 07/03/2016Cyber Nations Forum Rules
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The following are basic guidelines for use of the Cyber Nations community forum. Anyone caught disobeying these guidelines will be issued a warning. The forum staff works on a five warn limit policy unless the situation calls for more appropriate action ranging from a verbal warning to a double warn and suspension to an immediate ban, etc. Just because something is not listed specifically here as illegal does not mean it's allowed. All players are expected to use common sense and are personally responsible for reading the pinned threads found in the Moderation forum. Questions regarding appropriateness or other concerns can be sent via PM to an appropriate moderator. A permanent ban on the forums results in a game ban, and vice versa. Please note that the in-game warn system works on a "three strikes you're out" policy and that in-game actions (including warnings and deletions) may not be appealed. For more information regarding in-game rules please read the Cyber Nations Game Rules. 1.) First Warning
2.) Second Warning
3.) Third Warning (48 hour suspension at the forum)
4.) Fourth Warning (120 hour suspension at the forum)
5.) Permanent Ban Game Bans and Forum Bans
If you receive a 100% warn level on the forums, you will be subject to removal from the forums AND have your nation deleted and banned from the game at moderator(s) discretion. If you are banned in the game, then you will be banned from the forums. Process of Appeals
Players may not appeal any in-game actions. This includes cheat flags, canceled trades, content removals, warn level increases, nation deletion, and bans from the game. Players may appeal individual forum warnings. You may only appeal a warning if you can show with evidence that it was unwarranted or unduly harsh. If a reasonable amount of time has passed (no less than one month and preferably longer) in which you have demonstrated reformed behavior than you may request a warning level reduction. Wasting staff time with inappropriately filed reports and/or unfounded appeals will result in a warn level raise. Repeat incidences will result in a ban from the forum. Bans are permanent. Banned players may appeal to the Senior Staff if they believe grounds exist (very, very rare) in which they state their case with evidence and why explain why they believe they deserve to be allowed back into Cyber Nations. This process is not quick and the investigation into cases may last three minutes or three weeks or more depending on the individual situation. The only place where discussion of moderator action is acceptable is in the appropriate Moderation forum. Posting commentary on or disagreement with moderator action elsewhere will result in a warn level raise. Posting
All posts must be in English. Common phrases in other languages will be allowed so long as they are translated upon request. Foreign languages are permitted in signatures and avatars, however. Certain areas of the forum require you to have a nation in either standard CN or CN:TE. If you have... A SE and a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are allowed to post in either SE or TE areas of the forum. You must have your CN:TE nation name listed in your profile to post in the CN:TE section of the forum.
Just an SE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are not allowed to post in any TE areas of the forum.
Just a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your TE nation name or ruler name. Your must have your CN:TE nation name listed correctly in your profile. You are not allowed to post in any of the SE areas. You are allowed to post in the water cooler, question center and the moderation forums. Other than that, all your posts need to stay in the TE area. Flame/Flamebait/Trolling
Flaming is expressing anger or lobbing insults at a person/player rather than a character, post, idea, etc. Flamebait are posts that are made with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking another user into rule-breaking. Trolling is submitting posts with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking a specific group into rule-breaking. Forum users should not be participating in any of these, and doing so will result in a warning. Topic Hijacking
Hijacking is forcing the current thread discussion off of the original topic and usually results in spam or flame from either side. Forum users found hijacking threads will be given a warning. Repeat Topics
One topic is enough. Repeat topics will be locked, removed, and the author given a warning. Users found creating repeat topics after others were locked by staff will receive a warn raise. Joke Topics
Topics created as a joke are prohibited. Joke topics will be locked and the author warned. This includes topics in which the author is making an announcement “for” another in-game alliance. Humorous threads are permitted; it is up to the discretion of the moderation staff to determine what is merely satire and what is actually a joke topic. Spam
Spam is defined as creating posts or topics containing only contentless material of any kind. Users found spamming will receive a warning. Examples include (but are in no way limited to) posts containing nothing but smilies, "+1", "QFT", "this" any other one/few-word contentless combination, joke threads, or posts containing quotes and anything that counts as spam by itself. Adding words to a post with the express intent of avoiding a spam warn will result in a warning. These posts and other similar contributions have no substance and hence are considered spam. Posts of "Ave", "Hail" or any other one word congratulatory type are acceptable as one word posts. Emoticon type posts such as "o/" without accompanying text is still not allowed. Posts containing only images are considered spam, unless the image is being used in the Alliance Politics sub-forum and then the actual text of the image be placed into spoiler tags. Posting in All Caps
Posting large amounts of text in capital letters is not permitted. Use discretion when using your caps lock key. No Discussion Forums
There are forums that are not for discussion and are used strictly for game and forum staff to address certain issues, bugs, etc. The following forums are not open to discussion: Report Game Abuse, Report Forum Abuse, and Warn/Ban Appeals. Only moderators and the original poster may post in a thread, period, with absolutely no exceptions. Users found disobeying this guideline will receive an automatic warning for each offense. Moderation Forums
All Moderation forums also maintain pinned threads clearly marked as required reading before posting. Failure to read and follow required reading and procedure in a Moderation forum will result in a warning. Examples include posting requests in the wrong forum, failure to include all required information in posts, etc. The standard of conduct and enforcement of rules in Moderation forums is strictly enforced and the repercussions for disregarding rules or disrespecting staff are harsh. Read the pinned threads before posting and you will be fine. Namecalling
Excessive or unqualified namecalling is not allowed in IC forums; namecalling should also never make up the bulk of a post. Namecalling is prohibited entirely in all OOC forums. Filtered Words
Any attempts to evade the word filter will result in a warning. The terms we have filtered are filtered for a reason and no excuse for evasion will be accepted. Filter evasion includes censoring or deliberately misspelling part of a filtered word. If you link to a website, image, video, etc., containing profanity, please post a disclaimer before the link. The moderation staff may still remove links if the content is deemed too obscene. Harassment
Forum users should not be stalking/harassing others on the forums. Anyone found stalking players from topic to topic, etc., will be subject to a warning. Gravedigging
Gravedigging is not allowed anywhere on the forums. Gravedigging is "bumping" old topics which haven't been active for quite some time (four to seven days is standard depending on the nature of the thread and how many pages back it had been pushed before bump). Your warn level will be raised if you are caught doing this. The Suggestion Box and Black Market forums are partial exceptions to this rule. Suggestions/ideas in that forum may be posted in regardless of age PROVIDING that the reviving post contains constructive, on-topic input to the original topic or discussion. Black Market threads may be bumped by the author if there is new information about the offered exchange (i.e open aid slots). In the Player Created Alliances forum it will not be considered gravedigging to bump a topic up to a year old, so long as the alliance in question still exists and it is not a duplicate thread. Signatures
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You make some good points, Noctis. If Admin worked to change some of the mechanics that could give new players more hope and improve retention. I see your point and it's a good one. Better than just caring about the number of people for sure. However there are still some people that care and I'd still prefer people not spread their attitude of not caring which imo makes things even worse.
Not 100% sure my memory is right about this but the only time I can recall Admin talking about when he will end this world he said that basically he wouldn't. If that's true there is a still a possibility of becoming competitive in the upper tier. Cuba could delete, wars could happen. People have been saying the lights are about to go out for a very, very long time now. I recall about 3-4 years ago a GOON member laughing at me because I said something implying the game would last at least 2 more years. A side note, I find it kind of funny when people act like things mattered back then but they don't matter now because there are less people. I must be missing something because I don't get how that effects how much things matter.
No I did not say since WAPA hadn't posted a thread that our involvement was warranted. I never provided our justification for us entering really. I didn't see a need to. Though I should've said we're building a wall around white team or something. Or just posted a Doomsday clock. You haven't seemed to have such issue with those reasons for war. As far as this being "a great illustration of the values of FTW's proactive management" (more words I never said, btw).. I only mentioned this incident as one we added some content to and which I'm still adding content to this very moment. Content is what makes the world interesting, good or bad, which makes most content good and worthy of appreciation. No content is boring and whatever damage we've taken from bad content pales in comparison to the damage no content would cause.
When I said we add some controversy like in this event I only meant we added to it not that we generated it all or the whole event. I didn't post a thread because no one else had not because I thought it would improve the 'okayness' of my involvement. And I never said any of that reflected WAPA inactivity. Maybe it was the wrong place for a snide comment. Disagree that I would be an inappriopiate person to make it, although not the best person to make it, sure.
A couple things there Auctor: First I didn't claim to specifically disdain lack of content. I didn't bring the word content into this, you did. My main concern is activity plain and simple. Second, FTW is most certainly among the average for those things. Our aid slot usage has dropped with this war but it has been 40-55% for about 6 months. For a while we were.. I think it was the 6th most active in aid slot usage. How is that not well above average? Third, yes earlier last year we started to fall into inactivity and I was not happy about it. I don't know if I fully expressed my unhappiness about it to you, a foreign leader I did not know real well but you think I was sharing it with you to brag or what? You really don't think I had disdain for our inactivity at the time?
I am not expressing disdain for others based on qualities I share. FTW has been amongst the most active alliances recently in terms of trying to build our alliance. WAPA has not. On top of that we do provide some content via treaties, political dynamics, socialization and controversy such as this incident. We are not amongst the most active there but we still do some. I'd say were close to middle of the road there, give or take. Now you may not like my style. It can make me appear like an ass (or other negative things) at times and to some extent I may be an ass/those things. But that same attitude has done a lot to help us maintain our activity over the years. I have expressed the same disdain for my own alliances when they have started to fall into inactivity. For a while I left FEAR with some very harsh words because they were not meeting my expectations. So don't think I don't look at my own alliance with the same judgement, I do. Though I am not perfect and on occassion I have made unfair or hypocritical criticisms but I recognized it and would either apologize or drop it generally. I'm pretty self-aware, reasonable, etc. If you think I am in dire need of a lesson in humility you are mistaken. I'm about as humble as I'm going to get. And if or when FTW ever becomes a dead husk I will not be criticizing other husks. I will either shut up or move on. But we aren't a husk yet, baby.
Well for something that is chest puffing nonsense and immature you seem to care a fair deal about it. "Also this idea that you may have been willing to do something gets you no credit if the standard is actually doing something, Canik. Actions speak louder than the thoughts no one else knows about." You almost say that as if I had bragged that FTW joined the losing side of curbstomps all the time. I didn't and I wouldn't expect anyone to have that perception of us at this time. However, people shouldn't assume I've systematically dodged every war that could cause real damage either if they do they are wrong. I wouldn't blame them much for having that perception although I would think it foolish of them to hold the opinion so strongly and be so sure of it with the little information they have. I mean, are you SURE I've systematically dodged wars or could it just be things like, you know.. allies saying they want us to stay out or try diplomacy first and then the diplomacy working. What proof do you have that it's been systematic I've been unwilling to enter any war like that? You must have a lot of proof to be so sure.
Well I for one figured they chatted with some people, maybe they do it more than I think but even still.. the amount an alliance does is somewhat quantifiable. I know FTW is not at the top because we don't socialize a whole lot and our in-game activity while good is not as great as say Umbrella. (Umb is obviously one of the top alliances in doing stuff) The fact that virtually all WAPA does is socialize some, and I really mean virtually there - they literally do next to nothing in-game.. definitely puts them well into the lower tiers of doing stuff. That being said I suppose it is subjective whether doing very little is perceived as bad. I've never cared for it. (and I can prove that with historical documents) So I guess this is just conflict naturally playing out. Personally I had fun and I hope everyone else did too.
I've been more willing to risk serious damage than you think, Auctor. We have reached out you in the past and been rebuked or ignored so you can go ahead and understand the disdain. I heard you recently ignored another white team alliance trying to reach out to you as well. But maybe I'll try a more diplomatic approach again after we've peaced. And yes it is your right so do very little but it's equally my right to dislike it.
Actually FTW is in the position to call out quite a few alliances. True we may not post much in the way of comics or essays but - We've had one of the best economies for the past half year. We still explore and sign treaties. I post here and there and sometimes other FTW members do too. We've reached out to a few micros and either protected or merged with them. Compared to many we've been much more active in trying to accomplish things. Meanwhile almost half of WAPA are lacking trades, only Bunnet has been utilizing his aid slots and I'm fairly certain they haven't been involved in any wars or negotations in a very, very long time (until now). Anyway I believe we will have peace very soon. Probably within the next 24 hours. Okay? I don't want to end WAPA's existence. Quite the opposite, I'd like to see you exist more.
It may be three days ago that FTW attacked but it was only yesterday that I read this thread and posted that white peace seemed in order. Don't worry WAPA will be able to return to it's existence of simply existing very soon if you'll just keep your pants on.
That'd be great if WAPA started working with other white team alliances for mutual prosperity. Doubt they will though. They'll probably just go back to doing nothing. It's barely been over 24 hours but I think we will have peace soon. Unless WAPA rejects it, of course. True and it's almost like you never left since you still spread 'fear' to this day.
Well, maybe not too wise obviously but that helps to keep things interesting. As my nation bio says I have "Just the right amount of stupid". But thanks for the compliment. And yeah we merged with Wolfpack a few months before Doom War. We're tough to visit though as we mostly just use in-game methods of communication currently. Most of the ex-FEAR people you might've known have gone now anyway. Pretty much just me, Turetel & ClashCityRocker still around as far as ex-leaders from back then go.
Well this has been a fun little thread. It seems if FTW had not attacked it would've never been posted so you're all welcome for that. About the reparations. It seems I should have done more investigating of the situation before taking the actions I did. At the time I thought the last raid by Alonso was longer ago and less serious. That coupled with WAPA's lack of diplomatic effort made the reparations seem more reasonable in my eyes. Certainly WAPA didn't seem exactly on 'the defensive' when there was no records of attacks by PoSSE against WAPA on the war screens. And while it is an alliance's own responsiblity to investigate before taking action WAPA could have made it much easier by posting a DoW detailing their CB. Just sayin'. Anyway with the new information I have a more white peace does seem in order. Hopefully that can be worked out in the not too distant future.