Yukon Don

This guy loves when stuff glows.... :nuke: o/ FARK

Worked for 100%

dance stepson... lol...welcome to the world

o/ CCC

Yeah...generally this sucks, but on the same note I knew I had a ton to clean up. I have taken control of and tightened security during the past couple weeks, and ironically that has not been enough. At least one post above is from a thread restricted to just a few members. As of today I've removed admin privileges for others, but sadly too late. At least 4 valued members have had their forum profile deleted in the past 2 days. I'm pissed, but not at this thread...it has helped me identify who I believe the culprit to be.

Thread would have been more EPIC with no replies....that said I've fallen into the trap and posted also.

o/ NATO...best DoW EVAR

o/ CCC (hmmm...is it a sin to hail / bow to you guys) o/ RoK o/ CCC's God o/ Britishdude

[quote name='Baron Flynt' timestamp='1339640023' post='2982467'] What a dumb justification - nobody really cares if you have a valid CB or not, and coming up with this half-assed excuse just makes you look stupid [/quote] lol, yeah might've been a good time to pull out one of the below CB's a) We don't like you...BOOM b) We're bored...bingo you're it c) Umm...yeah, just because.

hmmm....so MK takes a guy in that has a known ZI sentence, and blames the other crew. I have no personal issues with either party frankly, but I have to agree with the post above, IG peace messages are hardly diplomacy. Maybe other efforts of diplomacy were made, but as the point was made to show the IG screenshots of the Peace offers, yet no other efforts were mentioned I'll assume they weren't. As such... LOL-CB

[quote name='Tequila Mockingbird' timestamp='1327909277' post='2910468'] Any attempt to remove Emperor Bob Ilyani or Regent Joe Stupid from their rightful positions within Ragnarok will be met with extreme military force. Yours truly, Tequila Mockingbird, Vice Kommandur of the Ragnarok Liberation Front. [/quote] Tequila, We appreciate that you don't like the end result of our internal strife. However the warriors of Ragnarok have spoken with this move, and our remaining allies have also recognized the new government. RLF is not recognized as a factor in our sovereign decisions and therefore has no bearing. Good Day.

o/ NATO

[center][IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/Adelheid130/Forum_Pics/RoKLogo.png[/IMG][/center] [center]Over the past few weeks Ragnarok has faced a storm as we came under leadership that didn’t share the spirit of our culture, nor the values of our charter. This was not a coup led for popularity or any frivolous cause. One of the key principles within the charter forbids OOC attacks regardless of alliance affiliation. For our former leadership to not only engage in an OOC attack, but against our founder and former emperor & empress was beyond what our membership and remaining leadership would allow. As we work through our rebuilding, we want to thank the allies who have stood with us, recognizing the desperate attempts of our former Ruling Council to re-gain control as just that.[/center] [center]Ragnarok would like to announce the following government structure moving forward Empress Adel Regent Yukon Don Vice Regent Valtamdraugr Lord of War Blue21[/center] As a final note, this is an official notification that Ragnarok considers both Joe_Stupid and Bob_Ilyani ghosts, and they have 48 hours to remove themselves from our AA.

Per the terms of our Ragnablok Pact http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Ragnablok our signatories are to bring us to the diplomatic table in conflicts with other alliances PRIOR to escalation. SUN has repetitively displayed a disinterest in any advice, assistance or other involvement from our advisors and government members. Their current response of continuing an attack on former member after he has applied and been accepted to another alliance without any diplomatic attempts is a breach of this agreement and frankly a final straw to our patience. Effective immediately, SUN, is expelled from the Ragnablok. We will no longer interfere nor intervene in your affairs! Best wishes and Good luck! Yukon Don High Chancellor - Ragnarok Written on the request of the Empress KaitlinK and her Ruling Council

[quote name='Balder' timestamp='1299788659' post='2658918'] I really don't think you understand the position I placed myself into personally. Both sides ended up thinking I was singularly aimed at defending the other. In addition, Lazarus please fact check before making ridiculous assertions about my leaving. I never once hid that should Ragnarok choose to leave the Super Friends, I'd be immediately returning which is exactly how it turned out. Your Empress and Ruling Council were well aware of this from the beginning. I'm done deflecting your snide comments. If you'd like to address the content of my posts go right ahead and as you're well aware I'd be more than happy to discuss them with you but I'm not spending my time defending myself from your shots at my character. I promise you, you won't have to look very hard for people who don't like me, there's no need to convince anyone that I'm blunt and opinionated nor that I'm passionate about what I believe in. What I won't have assigned to me, is the flat out abandonment of my allies. [/quote] The timeline here is broke... You left BEFORE any decision to leave SF was made...want to try and revise the history again?

[quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1299788593' post='2658915'] I would've liked to wish RoK all the best, but taking pot shots at your former allies on your way out shows how little class you have. Glad you could at least do SF a favor by leaving. I hope you get backstabbed by Polaris like so many alliances have in the past. From all the history with SF I seen, I know that wouldn't have happened there. SF offered you good advice and you were just too prideful and stubborn to heed it. It would be like if iFOK DoW'ed MK in support of the NPO and the rest of PB told iFOK to stop, and we told them to get lost and left PB saying how they wanted to control our FA path. That situation is about as dumb as the one you find yourself in. Congrats. [/quote] SF offered advice? If by advice, you mean.. Cancel the treaties or we'll put your membership status up for a vote...then yeah. Where I come from advice sounds more like..."Hey I think you'd be best off going this direction, but it's your decision in the end"

[quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1299787872' post='2658902'] what you mean to say is that you came to spread the word of GOD's awesomeness, but found out we weren't buying it so you had a temper tantrum and left, right? [/quote] Correction: ...had a temper tantrum and deserted during war. Worse yet he joined during war, and knew what he was getting into...

[quote name='Sweeeeet Ronny D' timestamp='1299644282' post='2657465'] offers white peace on condition of surrender, [/quote] White Peace by definition doesn't have conditions or terms. Call it what it is...they offered Surrender with no other terms....

[quote name='Velocity111' timestamp='1299566435' post='2656438'] And they both have four syllables... and nobody was arguing your point *edit* in case it wasn't clear to you, the dots between the letters denote breaks for the syllables >_< [/quote] Yeah... kazh-əl-tē I count 2 'dashes' or 'dots'...doesn't that make 3 syllables...

[quote name='Velocity111' timestamp='1299561610' post='2656333'] Ca su al ties are for ev er Looks like 8, you should use a dictionary, they tell you how many syllables are in a word. [/quote] from Dictionary.com cas·u·al·ty    /ˈkæʒuəlti/ Show Spelled[kazh-oo-uhl-tee] Show IPA –noun, plural -ties. ca·su·al·ty definition Pronunciation: /ˈkazh-əl-tē, ˈkazh-(ə-)wəl-/ Function: n There are 2 accepted pronunciations... Point still stands, that the first Haiku wouldn't get released from any self-respecting member of Ragnarok.

[quote name='Velocity111' timestamp='1299561061' post='2656317'] Actually, its not. Too many syllables in the second line. [/quote] Ca sual ties are for ev er 1.....2....3.....4....5...6...7 Looks good to me...

This haiku would be more likely to be approved... Pixels are worthless Casualties are forever You're a worthy foe

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1299553782' post='2656135'] What y'all don't seem to realize is that accepting white peace in this situation, is giving up. Whether it's white peace, or white peace plus a "surrender" clause. You are giving up this war. You are effectively admitting defeat, whether it is stated in the terms or not. Leaving the war when your coalition has lost is giving up on winning the war, either individually or collectively, no matter how you try to spin it, and no matter what the terms are. Edit: And it isn't some great shameful act. Most alliances have lost a war and had to give up at some point or another. [/quote] We'll have to agree to disagree on that... Surrender = Crying Uncle... White Peace = Both sides saying the reason to fight (treaties) has passed, it was fun, let's go our separate ways. If you don't see it that way it is your prerogative...but alas, we have more blood to give.

We went into a war to honor a treaty...where we knew we'd get our pixels burned. Why? Because we care about principle over pixels. If we don't measure ourselves on pixels why the hell would we give up when we run out of pixels. Personally I am sitting on well over 6 months warchest now that my pixels are depleted...so I'm more than happy to continue the fight. Everyone wants to know why we won't surrender...I can say as a member of the Ruling Council and now two years in Ragnarok I personally would NEVER consider it. I can't tell you if or where it is in the charter, but I can tell you it is in the CULTURE of Ragnarok. Hell, look at our slogan...TO HELL AND BACK TOGETHER. AKA...we don't care if we burn...we don't care about the consequences, we care about the alliance and what it stands for. Surrender is giving up...it is crying UNCLE. We don't do this...and never will. We went into the war knowing that we couldn't match up in a lot of areas, but that didn't deter us, nor will it. As mentioned we have not only offered, but actually told our allies to take their peace offerings. We are not the hold up to the peace process, and anyone who thinks we are hasn't been paying attention. As for semantics...we don't play that crap. Shake hands and walk away, or keep fighting. We offered a haiku or a beer review, but that's about the best terms you'll get from Ragnarok. If you want surrender go ask someone who cares about their pixels...

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1295536226' post='2586356'] You chose the ally that involved itself with the saboteur, and not the ally at the receiving end of his potentially damaging actions? Furthermore, instead of riding united with your blocmates, those who (ostensibly) take precedence over all other allies (and those that have been with you through thick and through thin), you ride in the opposite direction? All in all, poor showing, RoK. edit: typo [/quote] We chose the ally who was in defense... Blocmates...you mean the ones who took our notification of intent to declare and figured out how to jump in on the other side to avoid being stuck defending us? Those Blocmates.... pfft