Kroknia

Jackred as Gen Sec... Something is clearly wrong here.

No love for Umbrella? Makes me sad.

I still didn't notice the hot chick. Also, 42. YOu must be proud. Onward to issue 84 divided into 2.

Bad luck!

Wub you guys. Hope you come out of this in good shape even though I'm rooting for FOK.

Hi AirMe. I finally got to set me up up today on there 3rd time is a charm.

Long live INT!

GUARD and IRON join GW3 on the side of AEGIS. Lets say GPA as well for the sake of possibilities. No matter the result, that would have changed a lot of the dynamics of the future of CN. AEGIS victory, stalemate, NPO victory, it may have held off the curb stomps that have sense run the game with 2 more even long term sides.

[quote name='C Mos' timestamp='1289669680' post='2511921'] I can see why people would say raiding causes players to leave, especially since we only have about 20K people left... My guess is that they're afraid that the people getting raided will leave and there's a good chance that some will.. Don't get me wrong, I use to love raiding but that was back when I was actually able to find a target. [/quote] I haven't raided in years, or wanted to. It was, however, one of the reasons I stayed in the game when I was young though. One of the best alliances for member retention of newbies is GOONS... Why don't we all just raid again in the lower tiers? Makes the game more interesting when you're starting out. [quote]This guy thinks that creating a bloc that is an extension of SF and C&G, or scrapping all your treaties then re-signing them is "movement" and "unpredictable."[/quote] To be fair, it certainly got people of your ilk all riled up and trying, very poorly, to do things about it.

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1289666688' post='2511892'] Only we can change this, no one else is going to, stop alliances like GOONs raiding who ever they see fit, stop the power alliances from forcing others to do what they wish, only then will we grow in numbers. Karma was a joke, things are worst now then when NPO had power, how sad is that, thanks MK and GOONs. OOC: Ask your friends to join, random post on websites and many other areas for public view, give the admin new ideas on how to improve game play [/quote] As far as I can remember, raiding was in its true hayday back when the world was getting its biggest growth spurts(I know I was raiding 3-5 people a week). Both the League and the Initiative had raiding aliances, not to mention a good chunk if not most of the periphery ones raided. I suggest everyone starts raiding again. Seriously though, I don't see what the correlation between raiding and the number of players in the game. It's ludicrous to even argue that. I think you guys only hate the new powerful players of the game simply because they don't use that power half as much as the previous powerhouses did. NPO did. NpO did. FAN did. Old GOONS did. Right now, most of the powerful alliances are mildly content just sitting at the top after fighting for it sense the dawn of CN. The world stagnates when you have people that are content at the top and the top is the majority of people. As for the "elite" alliance discussions that happened earlier with SCY... I don't think MK or Umbrella think they're elite because they have high stats, but have good stats because they are elite. Any alliance has the ability to do this, you just have to ensure an active membership and aggressive and intelligent nation building system for the entire alliance. To argue that average alliances somehow can't means there just isn't the internal will for it to happen, not that they couldn't if they had the will. GOONS, I would argue, is more elite than many alliances with much higher ANS because they are good at maintaining activity and watching their nations. I know TOP wasn't always a big deal stats wise, but they had activity and a will unmatched. Also, I mostly agree with Starfox. I don't think that has happened sense the GW3 era. Kudos.

Sometimes I miss being in a checkmate alliance for the reasons you can see earlier in this thread by their posts.

[quote name='Xavii' timestamp='1289348640' post='2508692'] I await the next one with a great expectations. [/quote] As do we all.

Love you guys and nothing but the best of luck to both.

Congrats lovelies.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288008191' post='2492695'] Getting rolled, or even a realitic [i]threat[/i] of being rolled, can have a positive effect on community cohesion and therefore alliance strength. For example, back in Grämlins, there was a strong community spirit to counter the ever-present danger of the Initiative, even though they never [i]actually[/i] tried to roll us. I would guess that MK before noCB was much the same – held together in the siege mentality of the threat from Continuum, even though we hadn't tried to attack them at that point. I don't think you actually need to get rolled to have that effect. Actually being attacked can be fatal for an alliance. Yes, there are examples of successful alliances that have come through it at the top of the game today, but those alliances are self-selecting. Look at the wars which they came through, and other alliances which were rolled then which never recovered. For VE there is NAAC, for MK there is BAPS, for NPO there is TPF (not disbanded, but a shadow of their pre-Karma selves). [/quote] This is true. As many failings as we had back in the Socialist Workers Front(lack of military power, economic power, and tact) we were one of the fastest growing alliances in the game and there was immense dedication to improve because of the ever impending threat of NoR. I still converse with people from those days more than any former alliances I've been in. I can really only attribute it to the community building that having an enemy did for us. The general initiative was in there as well, but without NoR I don't think we'd have had 1/2 the membership we did, nor the drive to improve like we had.