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I'm glad it's certainly neat and easy to read. There haven't been truly good 2D webs in a long time. They're just too convoluted.

[quote name='Dion de Vermiis' timestamp='1323759694' post='2876333'] Who declared on whom. [/quote] Which is what I would have assumed, except then it's wrong, because MHA did not declare on anyone.

What do the directions of the arrows mean?

o/ The Apparatus. Thank you very much for the support. Additionally, GATO have been fine adversaries.

MHA had, for a while, lost people to GRE. It was kinda like graduating. But once they went down the drain, people stopped doing that, obviously. A lot of people went over who would have trickled over when it reformed. We have lost several good people though. :/

Fight On! to Fark and her allies!

MHA is now up 5.16 over NPO. I expect the reset at update.

A very fitting gain for us.

[quote name='shilo' date='08 June 2010 - 06:14 PM' timestamp='1276046025' post='2329417'] Lol, looks someone is looking to get a persecution complex Sorry to disappoint, but I don't think MHA will make it to list of "poor people hated by all for no other reason than their very existance" anytime soon. People here are making very concrete points, trying to paint this as general resentment against your alliance is a rather poor attempt to not wanting to discuss their points, no matter if they have merit or not. [/quote] About what? Someone claimed that we were not sovereign alliances and not able to make our own decisions. That's just simply untrue, if you read the treaty. And that's all he was claiming. So what's the concrete point?

[quote name='bakamitai' date='06 June 2010 - 11:35 PM' timestamp='1275892491' post='2327564'] Disclaimer: I haven't read the whole thread, only the last few pages. Grämlins are going steadily downhill, and while they could drag out the conflict for nearly an eternity, they will lose this war. I think that's clear to anyone who's been paying attention. I do not deny Grämlins the choice to run their alliance into the ground if they like -- such is their sovereign right. However, their no-recruiting policy, combined with their ongoing losses in membership and strength and their cabinet's choice to continue fighting this war, all mean that they are doomed to a long period of mediocrity, if not utter ruin. I therefore think that arguing about the relative merits of Härmlins will shortly be irrelevant. And while I have seen nothing but civility and honor from the MHAers I have spoken with, I am surprised at what appears to be a very nonchalant treatment of the spirit of this treaty on their part. Not that I can fault them, given the situation, but I am still amazed that they would let the alliance with whom they signed such a tightly-binding treaty fall into such a predicament. Perhaps someone can point me to where this was all explained. I eagerly await a reply. [/quote] It's no secret that the vast, vast majority of us strongly disagree with what GRE has done. When they started this, they told us they were going at it alone and would not request our help in fighting IRON. We have, from the beginning, tried to convince them of how bad an idea it was, but they... well it's not that they ignored us or didn't listen, because they certainly talked to us a lot, but they refused to really tell us what they were doing. And that's really it. We've spent the time since we peaced out with IRON trying to convince them to do so as well.

[quote name='Matthew PK' date='03 June 2010 - 12:26 PM' timestamp='1275593171' post='2322344'] If you think I'm being disrespectful (or that I mean any disrespect to the MHA) then I suggest you and I discuss it in the embassy on your forum (where I have been very active) Regarding scutter, I am commenting on the [b]fact[/b] that he himself has outwardly called for our destruction. I don't believe that viewpoint is shared with "The MHA" which is why I said that scutter is not the MHA. You see, it is possible to disapprove of Scutter's comments yet still be a friend to the MHA. EDIT: If, in fact, the collective MHA actually [b]does[/b] wish our destruction (which I do not believe is the case) then why are we having this discussion? [/quote] The collective MHA does not wish for GRE's destruction, they wish for GRE's recovery. But seeing as that would require a bunch of things that aren't going to happen, you haven't given us much choice in the matter.

[quote name='Matthew PK' date='02 June 2010 - 07:18 PM' timestamp='1275531495' post='2321549'] Scutter, talking out of both sides of your mouth? You have been very clear and adamant that you do not consider "the current GRE" your brother nor your ally nor your friend. Spare us the pretense; one need only flip back a few pages. You are not the MHA; merely a member. [/quote] Oh really? Alright, I've certainly had enough of all of this. Yeah, he's one member of the MHA, and the vast majority of the rest of us happen to agree with most of what he's saying on this issue. Scutter [s]can be[/s] is always inflammatory, but you really, really should show some respect for the only people who are keeping you, however reluctantly, from being utterly destroyed.

[quote name='Mussolandia' date='01 June 2010 - 02:28 PM' timestamp='1275427676' post='2319598'] To be honest, you could expect a similar reaction from anyone else to just about anything Scutterbug says. [/quote] There's times while I've thought about nuking Scutter.

Congrats. And I like the theme.

[quote name='Ojiras Ajeridas' date='19 May 2010 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1274301275' post='2303656'] I think this is a quite natural behaviour by a long time ally. The only thing that would concern me is that the people not following Ramirus' path don't try to turn the alliance around but simply leave that alliance. gRAMlins is down on 35 members now, and I do have serious doubts that there is still somebody left willing to stand up against Ramirus actions inside gRAMlins. So, I think MHA should realize that gRAMlins will be lead for a long time by Ram.... and if you don't agree with him, you should realize that it will be a long time that MHA won't agree with gRAMlins. And that's not a very good thing between allies. In my opinion, the only possibility for gRAMlins to survive this is a turnaround. Just to finish this strange thing. At the moment I just don't see it happen. And I don't see it happen in the next future. [/quote] And we have the same concerns. I honestly don't expect a change. I think they will continue to lose members until there is nothing left, and I expect that to happen rather quickly.