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I Simply Do Not Care

Malik Shabazz

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The title says it all. Over the past couple of years I've become extremely cynical about the world, about life, about school, everything. The world is so screwed up and filled with injustice. People come up with ways to try and fix it, but it all becomes meaningless debate and dick measuring because there really is no one way to fix the world's problems. America's problems, the world's problems go back hundreds of years and there is nothing we can do about it. They aren't going to get any better. People ask me well Loki, what can you do about it? I'll tell you: Absolutely nothing. No matter how much I argue with people, no matter how much others protest; it simply will not change a damn thing.

Now on to my life: I don't care about school. I have midterms at the end of the week, and I don't have the energy or motivation to do even study. Not that I don't want to, I simply can't and I do not care. For example, I got a 75 on the history test I took before my most recent one and I simply put the test in my notebook and kept it moving. I try my best to remain optimistic, to love people, to keep the faith (God knows I do) but it is damn near impossible with all the stuff going on in the world.

With regards to CN: You all should be ashamed of yourselves, you sit here and complain about how CN sucks and it's dying yet you do nothing to change this. Unlike the problems in the real world, this game's problems can be fixed if people actually made the effort to be revolutionize the way politics are done around here. If people actually made the effort to embrace new ideas, but no: The old order tries to make things "How they used to be" by maintaining the status quo (which in and of itself is counterproductive). Just know that the only reason I stick around here is because somewhere deep, deep down I love this game. It could be what it was before (I wasn't here, but from the things I've heard it was pretty good).

Now I know what you're probably thinking, what the hell is this guy going on about. Well to sum it up: Life sucks, the world sucks, people suck. No matter how hard we try to make things easier with technology and what-have-you, it is always going to suck.

This is From the Mind of Loki, God bless

-Loki




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The world was never meant to be a fair, or easy or fun ride. It's just what it is, life, and we only get out of it what we perceive. My daughter made me smile today, she got back from the doctors with the missus and my wife walks in to me and says "Wally the doc recons she is stuck with this chest cough for the next 3 months" to which my daughter replied "well at least its not 4 months" and smiled. Honestly that's all you can do in life. Look at that dam glass and enjoy the half full goodness. I'm not saying life is all dandy but accept the !@#$ as part an parcel of the game we all play and focus on the little joys that are already around you.

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The world was never meant to be a fair, or easy or fun ride. It's just what it is, life, and we only get out of it what we perceive. My daughter made me smile today, she got back from the doctors with the missus and my wife walks in to me and says "Wally the doc recons she is stuck with this chest cough for the next 3 months" to which my daughter replied "well at least its not 4 months" and smiled. Honestly that's all you can do in life. Look at that dam glass and enjoy the half full goodness. I'm not saying life is all dandy but accept the !@#$ as part an parcel of the game we all play and focus on the little joys that are already around you.

I try to smile and count my blessings and all that, but it's pretty hard to be optimistic when everything is just going the wrong way.

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I try to smile and count my blessings and all that, but it's pretty hard to be optimistic when everything is just going the wrong way.

It depends if it is things going the wrong way that were in your control or outside your control. If these are things specifically outside your responsibility (you wake up and your parents are dead or something) then you've just got to pick yourself up and start recognising that sometimes life does suck - but that's ok and its normal.

Now if it is things in your control, say you've flunked school, or lost your girl friend or something then hey its a learning experience man. Take some time to work out what you did to really screw up and throw it in the bank for later. The only real mistakes in life are the ones you keep making over and over again. The ones that leave you a little wiser are often totally worth it particularly in your youth.

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Life will always suck during our lifetime, that is for sure. Though, there is a little reason for optimisim, really, America hasn't been around very long at all, and neither has civilization.

http://www.waitbutwhy.com/2013/08/putting-time-in-perspective.html

There is no telling in the next 5 to 10 thousand years where we will end up. I would take Wallys advice and try not to worry about it. Try to find peace of mind, be happy.. if you want to make the future a better place, do your part, and if enough people want it, it will eventually happen. Probably. You're not alone out there.

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Those who try too hard to change the world often end up in the dark ditches, for the world is imperfect in every aspect. Always was, always will be.

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I agree. Life sucks, then you die. Not to mention our existence is as meaningless as anything else that exists.

But that doesnt mean we shouldn't care. Caring about something, anything, is all anyone really has.

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I'll try to be a little more supportive than the rest of the peanut gallery.

I'm presuming you're in undergrad here. It's a really fun time in your life. It's true you don't really know who you are then but the key is that people don't expect you to know who you are at that point. If you don't feel like the courses you're taking move you, take different ones - I switched majors and no one's ever held it against me. While there are lots of problems in the world, there are also lots of great things, too, and the great things make the problems all worthwhile. Have you found what you're really passionate about? If so, pursue it. If not, find it. Good job keeping the faith too, that one gets tough sometimes. Also travel, always travel, every chance you get.

As for CN, a lot of us just hang out with our friends before/during/after work/school and that's pretty fun. This would be an absolutely horrendous one-player game. Sure, it's dying, but that's not the worst thing in the world. We'll just all have fun until it does and then go on doing whatever it is we normally do.

Hope this helps.

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What do you want? People to come and tell you the world is all perfect and lovely? Not going to happen. People to tell you that you should work hard and you are guaranteed a perfect job? Not going to happen.

But what is true is that everybody has a place in their world and everybody can make it better. Humanity is the sum of all its parts and every part can make it a better place or make it a worse place. Those that move the world can only do so because behind them there are a lot of other people pushing as well.

Life is not going to be easy. The economy sucks, people are mean and the world is not the happy fun land that you were promised when you were growing up. I know this. I am a Law graduate with a good grade from a good university, I nailed three months of work at a good firm before being told "sorry...works run out...hope you find somewhere else soon...at least our name on your CV should help." Today I got my first job after that....Christmas work sorting mail. Yeah it sucks but it is work.

And with all that being said, I can assure you life will not be fun and easy. But one thing that is absolutely true is that life will be a hell of a lot worse if you let it win. If you do well at college it will be hard to find a good job because we are in a !@#$%* economy. If you sit on your arse you will hate yourself and you will find it impossible to get a good job.

I'm guessing you are relatively academically gifted given your attitude to your previous grades. So I am guessing this is the first time you have had the reality shock of life isn't easy as previously all targets (get good grade here, get into that school, get into that university) have been clearly obtainable. Now the task is get a good job and prove yourself to the world and it seems somewhat harder. And if you convince yourself that it is better to not try as in that case you can at least pretend that you could have made it but it didn't seem worth the effort. Whereas if you try you might fail and then you think you have no excuse. I know that feeling. I got it today when I almost withdrew a job application after getting an interview because I was scared I would bomb the interview.

But the key is to remember that whilst progressing through college the targets are large, they are few. Once you get out of that the targets are smaller but there are a hell of a lot more of them. The available careers paths are far far wider than the available education paths. Finding what you want and going for it is harder, but you can find what fits you like a glove, rather than education which just needs you to find something you vaguely fit into (ok bad metaphor...shut up).


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The fact that you are able to go to college is pretty "fair", considering a vast proportion of the world can't even get a high school education, let alone go to college. You should consider yourself lucky for that.

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The fact that you are able to go to college is pretty "fair", considering a vast proportion of the world can't even get a high school education, let alone go to college. You should consider yourself lucky for that.

I don't want to be in college, but where I want to be I need a degree to get there so I don't really have a choice.

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I'll try to be a little more supportive than the rest of the peanut gallery.

I'm presuming you're in undergrad here. It's a really fun time in your life. It's true you don't really know who you are then but the key is that people don't expect you to know who you are at that point. If you don't feel like the courses you're taking move you, take different ones - I switched majors and no one's ever held it against me. While there are lots of problems in the world, there are also lots of great things, too, and the great things make the problems all worthwhile. Have you found what you're really passionate about? If so, pursue it. If not, find it. Good job keeping the faith too, that one gets tough sometimes. Also travel, always travel, every chance you get.

As for CN, a lot of us just hang out with our friends before/during/after work/school and that's pretty fun. This would be an absolutely horrendous one-player game. Sure, it's dying, but that's not the worst thing in the world. We'll just all have fun until it does and then go on doing whatever it is we normally do.

Hope this helps.

It actually did kind of help, thanks.

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What do you want? People to come and tell you the world is all perfect and lovely? Not going to happen. People to tell you that you should work hard and you are guaranteed a perfect job? Not going to happen.

But what is true is that everybody has a place in their world and everybody can make it better. Humanity is the sum of all its parts and every part can make it a better place or make it a worse place. Those that move the world can only do so because behind them there are a lot of other people pushing as well.

Life is not going to be easy. The economy sucks, people are mean and the world is not the happy fun land that you were promised when you were growing up. I know this. I am a Law graduate with a good grade from a good university, I nailed three months of work at a good firm before being told "sorry...works run out...hope you find somewhere else soon...at least our name on your CV should help." Today I got my first job after that....Christmas work sorting mail. Yeah it sucks but it is work.

And with all that being said, I can assure you life will not be fun and easy. But one thing that is absolutely true is that life will be a hell of a lot worse if you let it win. If you do well at college it will be hard to find a good job because we are in a !@#$%* economy. If you sit on your arse you will hate yourself and you will find it impossible to get a good job.

I'm guessing you are relatively academically gifted given your attitude to your previous grades. So I am guessing this is the first time you have had the reality shock of life isn't easy as previously all targets (get good grade here, get into that school, get into that university) have been clearly obtainable. Now the task is get a good job and prove yourself to the world and it seems somewhat harder. And if you convince yourself that it is better to not try as in that case you can at least pretend that you could have made it but it didn't seem worth the effort. Whereas if you try you might fail and then you think you have no excuse. I know that feeling. I got it today when I almost withdrew a job application after getting an interview because I was scared I would bomb the interview.

But the key is to remember that whilst progressing through college the targets are large, they are few. Once you get out of that the targets are smaller but there are a hell of a lot more of them. The available careers paths are far far wider than the available education paths. Finding what you want and going for it is harder, but you can find what fits you like a glove, rather than education which just needs you to find something you vaguely fit into (ok bad metaphor...shut up).

Yea, makes sense.

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I like Max's comments.

IMO, just find some people to pal around with and focus on the positive rather than negative. Life's always hard no matter what stage you're at, doesn't mean you can't enjoy your own little world with all you've got.

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I see you got plenty of decent feedback from others. I'll not repeat their points, well not too much, and add you are too young to be this disenfranchised.

You need to realize that real change takes decades to affect. Every new law, every new ruling by the supreme court, and so forth is just another stepping stone in a long path to societal change.

How people forget the struggle of the civil rights movements. So many tend to think that the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s started then. WHAT??? Are yoU MAD bro?

Civil rights movement started well before the civil war. Long before Rosa Parks, black women were getting the crap beaten out of them and thrown off the train. I don't mean a light love tap, Ida B. Wells was badly beaten but fought the men who were ejecting her from the white women's car hand tooth and nail the entire way.

It took from before the civil war all the way to the Eisenhower administration in the 1950s to even get a civil rights law passed.

No matter what side of the debate you come down on for or against civil rights, the point being made still stands, change takes time.

The american people are in the middle of a massive cultural shift in which the conservative elements of society are getting older and older and still trying to cling to what scraps of power they can. It's a mess, but it won't be a mess forever. Sooner or later the baby boomers will die off and a more reasonable politically centric generation of Americans will come into power.

Right now, the best we can do is be patient and hope the idiots in government don't completely screw things up. You can also help out where you can on a grass roots level. Find a cause that inspires you through it's worthiness. Be humble, don't be a loudmouth smartass, but be a quiet soldier in the ranks of that cause looking to help others and not get yourself notices. Above all, be useful, not some overly bloated opinionated waste of space that has a long list of cliches that masquerade as intelligence and answers.

If you are this frustrated with your schooling, I highly suggest a gap year. Americans tend to charge head long into going to University as quickly as possible, and often they ought to spend a year working and/or traveling. I encourage both at the same time, life isn't ever the same after being rousted out of bed first thing in the morning to pick apples all day with a throbbing hang over brought on by your boss who got you completely bladdered the night before.. Google gap year and go from there.

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I see you got plenty of decent feedback from others. I'll not repeat their points, well not too much, and add you are too young to be this disenfranchised.

You need to realize that real change takes decades to affect. Every new law, every new ruling by the supreme court, and so forth is just another stepping stone in a long path to societal change.

How people forget the struggle of the civil rights movements. So many tend to think that the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s started then. WHAT??? Are yoU MAD bro?

Civil rights movement started well before the civil war. Long before Rosa Parks, black women were getting the crap beaten out of them and thrown off the train. I don't mean a light love tap, Ida B. Wells was badly beaten but fought the men who were ejecting her from the white women's car hand tooth and nail the entire way.

It took from before the civil war all the way to the Eisenhower administration in the 1950s to even get a civil rights law passed.

No matter what side of the debate you come down on for or against civil rights, the point being made still stands, change takes time.

The american people are in the middle of a massive cultural shift in which the conservative elements of society are getting older and older and still trying to cling to what scraps of power they can. It's a mess, but it won't be a mess forever. Sooner or later the baby boomers will die off and a more reasonable politically centric generation of Americans will come into power.

Right now, the best we can do is be patient and hope the idiots in government don't completely screw things up. You can also help out where you can on a grass roots level. Find a cause that inspires you through it's worthiness. Be humble, don't be a loudmouth smartass, but be a quiet soldier in the ranks of that cause looking to help others and not get yourself notices. Above all, be useful, not some overly bloated opinionated waste of space that has a long list of cliches that masquerade as intelligence and answers.

If you are this frustrated with your schooling, I highly suggest a gap year. Americans tend to charge head long into going to University as quickly as possible, and often they ought to spend a year working and/or traveling. I encourage both at the same time, life isn't ever the same after being rousted out of bed first thing in the morning to pick apples all day with a throbbing hang over brought on by your boss who got you completely bladdered the night before.. Google gap year and go from there.

Even after all the Civil Rights Movements and what-have-you there is still inequality, racism, and racial tension so nothing really changed afterwards. I hope I one day find a cause that I can truly say that I'd fight and even die for, because as of right now it's all meaningless BS. The only people I can truly say I care about are my family members.

Regarding the gap year thing, I've thought about doing that before transferring to a four-year school. I'm burned out from being in school for three years, and just want to take a break and experience the world.

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Whatever you do will in your life will most probably count very little in terms of the entire planet, and even if you'll be the next Alexander or Pasteur, well... we're on a ridiculously irrelevant grain of dust that pointlessly rotates around a N-th class star at the periphery of an immense thing that, too, is basically irrelevant compared to the Universe.
And we don't even know how much the Universe (we know) really counts in terms of ~everything~.
Whatever you do will be insignificant.

But history is not static. In many countries most children become adult, the principles of law apply to everyone and human rights are protected and - although nothing is perfect and there's no complete justice - it has not always been like that.
History is not static, and whatever improvement was put in effect by people like you. The great revelation is that nobody can do whatever you don't do: you are the only one that can do your part, thus it's very important that you do it.

If you donate your blood, for example, someone will be relieved and you may even save a human life. You can choose to change something, which means that you too can leave your mark on that ~everything~.

I don't know about you, but when I choose to change something here and now - when I donate blood - I don't really give a damn about stars and nations, or galaxies and world crises. There can be only one that does the things that I do, and I am content with that.

Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. (Gandhi)

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