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Yeezy Season


Neo Uruk

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So, Kanye's album Yeezus is officially scheduled to come out tomorrow, but so many people have heard it by now that it doesn't even matter. Projected to sell as much as 500k first week, this is probably the biggest project of 2013 as far as hip-hop goes. It even has an 84% on Metacritic currently, before most reviews have weighed in on it.

Yeezus is, erm, different. You would think this was Kanye's collection of features, because it certainly doesn't sound like his usual body of work, production-wise. The soulful samples and playful lyrics are mostly absent, leaving Kanye sounding far, far grittier than ever before. There are a couple of moments where he sounds close to old Yeezy, but there's no "The Glory" or "Spaceships" to be found. Also, Daft Punk worked with him on 4 of the 10 songs, so there's that to get you excited about it.

1. On Sight - Within thirty seconds of starting the album, you know it's different. The lyrics may be typical Kanye here, but the beat is nothing like what he's used before, save maybe "Cold." Solid intro. 7/10

2. Black Skinhead - Ratcheting up the "angry about race issues" up yet again, Kanye references Malcolm X's "by any means necessary" slogan for the second time ("Fly Malcolm X, buy any jeans necessary" seems really shallow compared to this song). The production is solid,, the message is great, the lyrics are pretty good. Also note that he debuted this song the day before Malcolm X's birthday 9/10

3. I Am a God (featuring...God?) - Kanye, braggadacio? Never. Kanye even goes so far as to have a conversation with Jesus, who apparently thinks Kanye's deeming himself "Yeezus" is appropriate. "I know he the most high, but I'm still a close high" - well, at least Kanye's still humble despite stuntin on a jumbotron. Solid track, even with the crazy ass screaming thrown in. 8/10

4. New Slaves (feat. Frank Ocean) - You know, I didn't actually like the sound of this when it first came out, but it's really grown on me. The message strikes really good from the start. "My momma was raised in the era when/ clean water was only served to the fairer skin" Ye already gets onto the rant with his first line. He delivers his bars almost nonchalantly, but you can still feel passion from the beat. He puts the passion up for his next verse after the very clever bridge. This song all in all is almost ironic given Ye's rampant splurging. he somehow manages to subvert that, while touching on subjects such as the DEA and what it's like to meet Yeezus in Hampton. Post rant comes Frank Ocean, bringing a crooning melody in with him for a refresher on why the world love/hates Kanye in the first place. 8.5/10

5. Hold My Liquor (feat. Chief Keef and Justin Vernon) - Ok, this song makes Chief Keef sound good. That's all I really have to say about it. Also, Justin Vernon is the bomb. This song is mostly about one night stands Justin Vernon starts by bragging about holding his liquor; then Keef comes in saying he, however, can not. This song may be displaying sober Ye bragging about his tolerance then drunk Ye losing his !@#$ (ie: he blamed the Taylor Swift incident on Hennesy) overall beat is soothing compared to most of the tracks here, and the song itself seems pretty relaxed, which is te type of music where I believe Ye excels. 9/10

6. I'm In It (feat. Agent Sasco) - Well, uh, this dancehall-ish track is a little graphic, and the beat seems unfocused for a lot of it. Agent Sasco matches the graphic parts of Ye's verses, but the production just doesn't match mostly. Still a decent outing, but not what you would expect from Kanye West. 6/10

7. Blood on the Leaves - Wait, wait, wait. After making two tracks outlining racial issues, he flips a sample about a lynching into a song about women trapping men for their evil alimony purposes. Think a dark "Gold Digger." Production-wise, this song is probably the best on the album, and the tone of the verses are actually good. But the sample just kind of offsets it because that is one vast exaggeration. 5/10, but only because it just sounds so smooth

8. Guilt Trip (feat. Kid Cudi)- I'm confounded by how Kanye came up with the idea of sampling Popcaan's hook for Pusha T's version of "Blocka" in a song about an ex. I'm even more confused on how the hell it worked so well. And holy !@#$, Cudi, can you come up with a better way to croon that line? I seriously got chills when I first heard this on the projection videos, and that was before I even knew it was my favorite artist. Standout track. 10/10

9. Send It Up (feat. King L) - The nonchalant intro over the blaring techno!@#$ beat is pretty awesome. "I be goin hard, I got a name to prove" Chicago native King Louie boasts, and Ye helps him solidify his name in the Chi-raq rap scene by giving him a decent feature on a highly anticipated album. 7/10

10. Bound 2 (feat. Charlie Wilson) - When I saw Charlie Wilson's name, I was hoping it wouldn't be another industrial crossover track and instead a return to form for Ye, and I was pleasantly unsurprised. Flipping lines and giving an "old Yeezy" verse, backed by excellent vocals from Charlie Wilson, this sounds like it should have been on MBDTF, instead of Yeezus. It's a welcome addition to Yeezus, however. 9/10

Overall, Yeezus elt like Kanye was trying to break the mold he's been in. It's a pretty good album, but not quite up to par with his earlier work. To be expected when you dive into another genre. It feels almost like Kanye's response to Indicud, and as such....

Indicud

So, Kid Cudi's taken up producing now and decided to provide 80% production for his fourth album (WZRD counts as an album, yes; it wasn't even bad.) Let's see how this goes. Keep in mind this is not based on the first listen of the album, it's definitely a grower. The more you listen to it, the closer your views will likely get to mine.

The Resurrection of Scott Mescudi - This isn't a bad instrumental. It just drags on for nearly three minutes. If you're a fan of instrumentals that sound like they belong in horror movies, it's actually pretty good. I personally think it could use some vocals in the manner of "Perfect is the Word" though. 6/10

Un$%&@wittable - Cudi with the patented ($%&@ you, Drake, we know you bit Cudi's style) half-sing, half-rap chorus. Based off the first two songs, Cudi isn't doing too bad with his production career. And he's still got his voicebox intact. Sweet. 7/10

Just What I Am (feat. King Chip, formerly Chip tha Ripper) - Stoner anthem alert. You can also use this song for a whatever-the-hell-you-are anthem, but it's more specific to the "don't judge me" variety of people. Production is amazing, lyrics are amazing. Chip is one of the best swag rappers and he shows it. To think most people know him from a !@#$%* meme from one of his freestyles is pretty crazy. Cudi comes in with one of the best verses, conscious-wise, of 2012 (the song came out last summer). 10/10

Young Lady (feat. Father John Misty) - Indie rock band + Cudi = WZRD, right? Sweet, because this song is pretty rockin. Cudi's fawning over this woman in't the most suave, but he gets credit for an awesome song. 8/10

King Wizard - If you disregard the video made for this song (really, why) it's pretty good. The second single for Indicud, it's another "I'mma do me" anthem. Cudi comes through with his interesting flow, as usual, and provides another solid production outing. 8/10

Immortal - Ok, who hasn't felt this way before? Either from telling your friends you have powers or just feeling like the night won't end for you. Vibing to this one. Better production than most songs get, as well as just in general rocking out. 7.5/10

Solo Dolo Part II (feat. Kendrick Lamar) - This song weirded me the everloving $%&@ out at first. But, again, this album is a grower. Eventually I came to terms with this song's strange sound, and then it became really enjoyable. They shouldn't have really used the Solo Dolo theme as it doesn't seem to fit to me. Kendrick with a nice look here. 7/10

Girls (feat. Too Short) - I don't really like the Too Short feature here, which is a new thing for me. He's decent, but the song needs a different feeling than he gives. Kinda throws the song off to just say "$%&@ em" 6/10

New York City Rage Fest - This instrumental is much better at under 2 minutes. Something you can vibe to for a decent amount of time and move on. Cudi showing that he's not a bad producer, even if it's simple. But hell, I loved Pharrell/Neptunes beats, why can't Cudi do simple? 7/10

Red Eye (feat. Haim) - this track is more HAIM than Cudi, but he does contribute. Not a standout track by any means, but it's good. 7/10

Mad Solar - Kinda tacky for him to spell out the song title, but whatever. Overall not a bad song, though. Beat outdoes the rapping, which is something I wasn't expecting. 6/10

Beez (feat. RZA) - This track is mostly RZA showing off, and a tribute to the Wu. It is, however, one of the best tracks on the album, production-wise and rapping wise. Not that RZA is necessarily a more gifted rapper than RZA, it's just more composed. 9/10

Brothers (feat. King Chip & A$AP Rocky) - Chip comes through and ices the beat. Song could have been two Chip verses and I would have been perfectly happy. However, we get an awkward garbage bin collectible A$AP showing, and a Cudi verse that can't really match Chip's verse. Good production saves the ending. 8.5/10

Burn Baby Burn - swag swag. Cudi spits fire. Production is decent. 7/10

Lord of the Sad and Lonely - Beat isn't good, but not garbage. Flow is nice. Good song tbh. 7/10

Cold Blooded - One of the highlights of the album, and competes with Beez and Just What I Am for most complete song. 10/10

Afterwards (feat. King Chip and Michael Bolton - And here comes the throwaway. This song would be better if it was made into two songs. The ending bit is far superior to the beginning, but that isn't saying too much, since there are a total of maybe like five unique lines in the song. 5/10

The Flight of the Moon Man - ehhhhhh. Least favorite of the instrumentals. 5/10

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Kanye and Kid Cudi are crap compared to any rapper besides any signee of YMCMB and Taylor Gang.

Is there any real reason or are you just gonna fling !@#$ here

also lol leaving MMG out of there.

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Biggest project of 2013? I think Jay and/or Eminem will have bigger albums when they drop. I don't know if Samsung buying a million copies of Jay's album will count, but if it does it's already platinum, and it's not even released.

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Biggest project of 2013? I think Jay and/or Eminem will have bigger albums when they drop. I don't know if Samsung buying a million copies of Jay's album will count, but if it does it's already platinum, and it's not even released.

Jay, maybe. Eminem doesn't have quite the global stature of Kanye, iirc, and is also past his prime by far - as Kanye just had his best album only three years ago.
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I don't think Eminem has a lower stature than Kanye, you have to remember he's the highest selling artist in the history Rap, and the only mainstream album he had that didn't peak at #1 was the Slim Shady LP which peaked at #2. As for past his prime, I don't know if he truly is or isn't, if the next album is like Encore, Relapse, or even Recovery then he is past his prime. If it's like the Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show, or even Hell: The Sequel then he's still in his prime. This next album will be very interesting as far as content goes, I mean what does he have left to say? He can't really repeat what he did on Relapse or Recovery. Will it be a reflection on his career like his features on Our House by Slaughterhouse and My Life by 50 Cent were, and signal a move to a position like Dr. Dre is in now, trying to help others build their career and producing? As far as numbers go, I say it will probably be about the same as Kanye and Jay's albums though.

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Speaking of Em, there's a snippet of a song he did for Tony Touch's album on YouTube. Called "Symphony in H", apparently the whole song just premiered on Shade 45 or something. Sorta have mixed thoughts on the snippet.

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Yeezus is probably the best album I've ever bought.

Eh, it feels more like a collection of singles than an album. The songs are all good, they just don't mesh together very well imo.
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Fair enough. If he drops another Eminem Show I'll give him his due credit.

That is why he produced Recovery and Hell: the Sequel.

Why do you say that

Because I see no talent in both "artists". Sure, Yeezy might be a decent producer, but his skills as an emcee is really treacherous to hear and see. His lyrics are plain, delivery is plain, EVERYTHING IS PLAIN! Only verse I respected from him was in Run This Town. And his voice sounds like a freaking Alvin and the Chipmunk!

Is there any real reason or are you just gonna fling !@#$ here

also lol leaving MMG out of there.

I left out MMG since Meek Millz is signed there.

Jay, maybe. Eminem doesn't have quite the global stature of Kanye, iirc, and is also past his prime by far - as Kanye just had his best album only three years ago.

Really? I would like to hear your opinion in who had the better verse in "Forever" since that is the only song both Eminem and Kanye were on. And just a heads up, I believe you are pissy against Shady because he directly and subliminally dissed Yeezy in Forever and No Love as Em's right-hand man (Royce 5'9) burned Mr. West in Above the Law. I can just throw out ten Eminem lines and prove you that they are better than anything Yeezy spit.

Speaking of Em, there's a snippet of a song he did for Tony Touch's album on YouTube. Called "Symphony in H", apparently the whole song just premiered on Shade 45 or something. Sorta have mixed thoughts on the snippet.

Skits and Freestyles does not make me laugh often, but this line made me cough out a smirk.

"Hockey, !@#$ thought I had the place flowing

I hate to put you on ice but

You already had 3 periods in 60 minutes, great going"

I don't think Eminem has a lower stature than Kanye, you have to remember he's the highest selling artist in the history Rap, and the only mainstream album he had that didn't peak at #1 was the Slim Shady LP which peaked at #2. As for past his prime, I don't know if he truly is or isn't, if the next album is like Encore, Relapse, or even Recovery then he is past his prime. If it's like the Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show, or even Hell: The Sequel then he's still in his prime. This next album will be very interesting as far as content goes, I mean what does he have left to say? He can't really repeat what he did on Relapse or Recovery. Will it be a reflection on his career like his features on Our House by Slaughterhouse and My Life by 50 Cent were, and signal a move to a position like Dr. Dre is in now, trying to help others build their career and producing? As far as numbers go, I say it will probably be about the same as Kanye and Jay's albums though.

In an honest perspective, I always become fed up when people say Recovery's didn't have the tracks to set as equal or more than his old stuff. Not Afraid, 25 to Life, No Love, Seduction, Almost Famous, Wont Back Down, Going Through Changes, Space Bound, Cinderella Man, Love the Way You Lie, and Session One were all great songs. From his recent freestyle, I assume that we will see the same content in Hell:the Sequel

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Because I see no talent in both "artists". Sure, Yeezy might be a decent producer, but his skills as an emcee is really treacherous to hear and see. His lyrics are plain, delivery is plain, EVERYTHING IS PLAIN! Only verse I respected from him was in Run This Town. And his voice sounds like a freaking Alvin and the Chipmunk!

So no real reason for Cudi? The man can sing and rap like no other. He also hums and harmonizes on a lot of tracks without being credited. Cudi was blessed with amazing vocals and a penchant to strive for being himself.

I left out MMG since Meek Millz is signed there.

And you talk about whack MCs not having lyrics... I figured it'd be at least Wale. Meek has a good flow and a different perspective on trapping, but he's just another trap rapper when you get down to it.

Really? I would like to hear your opinion in who had the better verse in "Forever" since that is the only song both Eminem and Kanye were on. And just a heads up, I believe you are pissy against Shady because he directly and subliminally dissed Yeezy in Forever and No Love as Em's right-hand man (Royce 5'9) burned Mr. West in Above the Law. I can just throw out ten Eminem lines and prove you that they are better than anything Yeezy spit.

I'm not against Shady because he had some irrelevant ass disses, I'm against Shady because he's the go-to "white rapper" that has a top 5 spot from everyone because of his first two albums. Royce propped him him up for Hell: The Sequel. Eminem is not as good as he was pre-Encore, and he never will be. He fell off. Get over it. He's had one song worthy of a top 20 artist in five years, and Cinderella Man wasn't even that good. Say whatever you want, but Ye is still innovating his production, and Cudi is branching out his talent. Eminem is in the Dre Zone of developing his money via other artists. He has not been relevant to me as a rapper in nearly a decade.

And for the record, he made a quick rebuttal to himself in "Talkin To Myself" so guess who won? He knew better than to war with Kanye and GOOD Music. He knew he would have to call in Slaughterhouse (who are honestly great lyricists and spitters) to back him up if West responded, and it would have embarrassed him.

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So no real reason for Cudi? The man can sing and rap like no other. He also hums and harmonizes on a lot of tracks without being credited. Cudi was blessed with amazing vocals and a penchant to strive for being himself.And you talk about whack MCs not having lyrics... I figured it'd be at least Wale. Meek has a good flow and a different perspective on trapping, but he's just another trap rapper when you get down to it.

I'm not against Shady because he had some irrelevant ass disses, I'm against Shady because he's the go-to "white rapper" that has a top 5 spot from everyone because of his first two albums. Royce propped him him up for Hell: The Sequel. Eminem is not as good as he was pre-Encore, and he never will be. He fell off. Get over it. He's had one song worthy of a top 20 artist in five years, and Cinderella Man wasn't even that good. Say whatever you want, but Ye is still innovating his production, and Cudi is branching out his talent. Eminem is in the Dre Zone of developing his money via other artists. He has not been relevant to me as a rapper in nearly a decade.

And for the record, he made a quick rebuttal to himself in "Talkin To Myself" so guess who won? He knew better than to war with Kanye and GOOD Music. He knew he would have to call in Slaughterhouse (who are honestly great lyricists and spitters) to back him up if West responded, and it would have embarrassed him.

Kanye West is not as lyrical and produces mediocrity. He does not put any effort to compose anything original. The only originality from that whack MC is his fashion trend. The dude talks about being real and hard as he raps in a skirt. Anything Yeezy is featured on, he automatically kills the track (Forever, Watch the Throne album, coff coff). If Yeezy is so H.A.M when compared to Eminem, I would like to hear your opinion about who had the better verse in Forever (only song Kanye and Em were both in).

As for Kid Cudi, he does not have a good singing voice. If anything I've heard from him, it is that his music is annoying, period. If you can redirect me to a song that you believe is the best from Cudi, maybe my opinion will change if it is for my taste.

Wale is meh, if you listen to "I'm A Boss" or "Traumatized", his lyricism and flow is amazing.

As for Eminem "falling off" after Eminem Show, Imma throw five 2009 and above Eminem songs/verses and let you be the judge:

Almost Famous

Drop the World

Despicable Freestyle

No Love

All She Wrote (Solo Version)

I also see you only saying Cinderella Man was a bad song, from all the songs I've listed in my previous post. :D

As for Eminem rebutting from the beef, he said in Not Afraid no more "beef flingers" for the sake of his daughters since he already had experience with that, and his last beef with Murder Inc got his best friend killed, massive paparrazi chasing over him, and ruining the childhood of his daughters. He, then, apologized for the disses in No Love and subliminal burns in Not Afraid and Seduction so he would prevent anything like that from happening. All rappers mentioned in Talkin to Myself were subliminally/directly dissed in Recovery (along with Drake in Eminem's Despicable Freestyle). He took down and destroyed the careers of all of the Murder Inc roster, DJ Lethal, Vanilla Ice, Everlast, Limp Bizkit and obliterated the business of the Source, all on his own. If Shady could do something like that, why the hell would he be scared of a skirt-wearing, chipmunk-voiced punk who fails at trying to go Makaveli on us.

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Kanye West is not as lyrical and produces mediocrity. He does not put any effort to compose anything original. The only originality from that whack MC is his fashion trend. The dude talks about being real and hard as he raps in a skirt. Anything Yeezy is featured on, he automatically kills the track (Forever, Watch the Throne album, coff coff). If Yeezy is so H.A.M when compared to Eminem, I would like to hear your opinion about who had the better verse in Forever (only song Kanye and Em were both in).

As for Kid Cudi, he does not have a good singing voice. If anything I've heard from him, it is that his music is annoying, period. If you can redirect me to a song that you believe is the best from Cudi, maybe my opinion will change if it is for my taste.

Wale is meh, if you listen to "I'm A Boss" or "Traumatized", his lyricism and flow is amazing.

As for Eminem "falling off" after Eminem Show, Imma throw five 2009 and above Eminem songs/verses and let you be the judge:

Almost Famous

Drop the World

Despicable Freestyle

No Love

All She Wrote (Solo Version)

I also see you only saying Cinderella Man was a bad song, from all the songs I've listed in my previous post. :D

As for Eminem rebutting from the beef, he said in Not Afraid no more "beef flingers" for the sake of his daughters since he already had experience with that, and his last beef with Murder Inc got his best friend killed, massive paparrazi chasing over him, and ruining the childhood of his daughters. He, then, apologized for the disses in No Love and subliminal burns in Not Afraid and Seduction so he would prevent anything like that from happening. All rappers mentioned in Talkin to Myself were subliminally/directly dissed in Recovery (along with Drake in Eminem's Despicable Freestyle). He took down and destroyed the careers of all of the Murder Inc roster, DJ Lethal, Vanilla Ice, Everlast, Limp Bizkit and obliterated the business of the Source, all on his own. If Shady could do something like that, why the hell would he be scared of a skirt-wearing, chipmunk-voiced punk who fails at trying to go Makaveli on us.

Funny how you mention All She Wrote when it's a song that's very similar to Kanye's lyrics. Limp Bizkit and Vanilla Ice's careers were marked by how terrible they were, as Austin's waste department can attest to. The Source is still relevant. You're argument falls flat on its face with all the contradictory filler you throw in.
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Funny how you mention All She Wrote when it's a song that's very similar to Kanye's lyrics. Limp Bizkit and Vanilla Ice's careers were marked by how terrible they were, as Austin's waste department can attest to. The Source is still relevant. You're argument falls flat on its face with all the contradictory filler you throw in.

I never heard Yeezy pull off stanza as smart as this one nor flow as H.A.M as Em did on this one:

If you was bleach and I was hair I wouldn't dye for you

Tryin' to pull five bucks from me is like tryin' to pull five molars

You get your eye swoll' up, I'm on my straight grizzly

So why would I buy you a gay-ass teddy bear, !@#$%*, you're already bipolar

It is really ironic how you dare call Limp Bizkit and Vanilla Ice bad when they had legions of fans before they dared to beef with Slim (not that Im a fan of them, they're horrible). Limp Bizkit, Vanilla Ice, and Eminem both have really similar fans and when Shady exposed just how much of punks they are and put them on fire, any fan of Limp and Ice were ashamed to be one. Just check out "Girls" and "Nail in the Coffin", I would've put the mic down and not make another diss record if it were directed to me. And it is really coincidental how they became irrelevant in rap after the beef against Em.

The Source is not as relevant as they were in the past, period.

You say how my argument falls flat when you are saying a rapper, who never had experience in the rap battle arena, would burn an emcee who has been highly praised in the rap game for 10 plus years.

And you still haven't answered my question, who had the better verse in Forever, Eminem or Yeezy?

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But then again, Im arguing with a guy who believes a boring, Chipmunked-voice 2Pac that wears a skirt spits better than a rapper who has proven himself legendary time after time.

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Kanye has never had experience in the rap battle arena, yet it is a far better MC. Think Common; not your typical battle rapper, but put out a quality diss at Ice Cube and aboslutely ripped Drake.

And Ye had the better verse.

What you fail to understand is that Eminem gets a pass on scrutiny because he's white. I'm saying this as a white male. Eminem, after he stopped talking about murdering his ex, is no longer a "controversial" rapper despite still rapping about the same !@#$ as all the rappers that come under fire like Chief Keef. Keef is a simp, sure, but when you break it down his topics are the same as Eminem used to cover. However, as soon as Eminem moved on from "that guy who murders a white girl," he gets a free pass. Kanye and Eminem also have similar punchlines, yet Kanye is more scrutinized for having "weak" lyrics. Why is that?

1) White people love Eminem. This is pretty much non-negotiable. Nobody calls Eminem "that guy who used to rap about murdering everyone within 100 yards of his ex", but plenty people still kanye "that really racist guy who said George Bush hates black people," or "that prick who interrupted T-Swift." Both of these events took place far longer than it took for America to give Eminem his pass, so why is Kanye still under fire when he apologized?

2) For some reason, everyone thinks Kanye should be better on the mic because he can produce. I don't see why this should be the case when Kanye is already a top 20 spitter, as is Em. I don't see why his raps have to be at the same level as his production, when he's been at one far longer than the other.

As for some bars (his flow wasn't even that good, get off the tip):

Have you ever had sex with a pharaoh?

Put the pussy in a sarcophagus

Now she claiming that I bruised her esophagus

Head of the class and she just want a swallowship

I'm living in the future so the present is my past

My presence is a present kiss my ass

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Kanye has never had experience in the rap battle arena, yet it is a far better MC. Think Common; not your typical battle rapper, but put out a quality diss at Ice Cube and aboslutely ripped Drake.

And Ye had the better verse.

What you fail to understand is that Eminem gets a pass on scrutiny because he's white. I'm saying this as a white male. Eminem, after he stopped talking about murdering his ex, is no longer a "controversial" rapper despite still rapping about the same !@#$ as all the rappers that come under fire like Chief Keef. Keef is a simp, sure, but when you break it down his topics are the same as Eminem used to cover. However, as soon as Eminem moved on from "that guy who murders a white girl," he gets a free pass. Kanye and Eminem also have similar punchlines, yet Kanye is more scrutinized for having "weak" lyrics. Why is that?

1) White people love Eminem. This is pretty much non-negotiable. Nobody calls Eminem "that guy who used to rap about murdering everyone within 100 yards of his ex", but plenty people still kanye "that really racist guy who said George Bush hates black people," or "that prick who interrupted T-Swift." Both of these events took place far longer than it took for America to give Eminem his pass, so why is Kanye still under fire when he apologized?

2) For some reason, everyone thinks Kanye should be better on the mic because he can produce. I don't see why this should be the case when Kanye is already a top 20 spitter, as is Em. I don't see why his raps have to be at the same level as his production, when he's been at one far longer than the other.

As for some bars (his flow wasn't even that good, get off the tip):

Really? If Yeezy was such a hard rapper then he wouldn't be wearing skirts and picking fights with vocalists. As for production, I agree that Kanye is a better producer than Shady, but other than that, Yeezy cannot set the same bar Eminem has set for the rap game.

You're lying to yourself if you think Kanye had the better verse. Hell, even Drake and Lil Wayne went harder than Kanye.

Eminem is not praised because he is white, he is highly praised because he is not afraid to speak what he truly believes. Eminem believed it was harsh of Yeezy to ditch them on the Grammy Performance on 2009, he later burned him on No Love. Eminem believed Will Smith is a coward for thinking you can succeed in the rap game without cursing, he burned him in Real Slim Shady. Eminem despises his wife and felt like murdering her, he went on and did not hesitate to express his emotions.

Eminem puts his heart and soul in his music. Anyone who does not like it, or believes some mediocre work is better than his, does not simply know the hurdles he had to jump through to get to the position he currently is at.

*facepalm*

Dude, how dare you compare Chief Keef to Eminem! Yes, Eminem made some pop tracks, but he only made a couple of them (both of them in which he was featured in). Slim Shady LP and Infinite was his hunger for fame, MMLP was his rage against society, Eminem Show was his feud with Kim and fame, Encore was random, Relapse was about murder and rape, and Recovery was about the psychological warfare with himself. I agree, Eminem is running out of things to rap about, but at least he tries to choose a topic to rap to instead of collecting random words and making them rhyme that does not make sense like Kanye is doing so.

1) People love Eminem because he raps about the same objectives everyone is going through.

Do you hate your mom because she uses violence and/or drugs against you? Listen to Cleanin Out My Closet. Did your girl just screw you over? Listen to Kim or Space Bound. Do you want to feel at ease when expressing your concerns with your girlfriend? Listen to Love the Way You Lie. Do you feel like you just hit rock bottom? Listen to Rock Bottom. Are you vastly hated for being you? Listen to No Apologies and Sing for the Moment. You want to be pumped up and motivated? Listen to Till I Collapse? Want to redeem yourself emotionally and personally? Listen to Cinderella Man and Not Afraid.

The fact is that music controls the feelings of one. Music composes and extracts the same emotions the consumer is feeling. Eminem is smart enough to acknowledge that and embrace it with his music. What does Kanye West do? Raps about power and swag.

And if you think Recovery sucked and he fell the $%&@ off? Please listen to this.

http://youtu.be/dVN1R1Copoc

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