Wally World

If any Russian nukes were lost it happened in the early 90s, and they would have been used by now.

There was at least one stolen in the 90's, it hasn't however been fired yet as i still haven't got KW's address

I wouldn't worry so much about the 35k the US and Russia collectively have, the 85 Pakistan and India combined have are a lot more dangerous

There was at least one stolen in the 90's, it hasn't however been fired yet as i still haven't got KW's address

Just generally aim it at Australia mate and your a good chance

If you have a spare 76 minutes look up 1983: The Brink of Apocalypse a documentary that shows the closest we ever came to WW3. Russia was about to launch because of a nato exercise and NATO had no idea WW3 was about to happen until much later when a Russian spy defected. Ive watched it 3 times but cant remember the link. Very scary stuff

From what I remember russia was to pre empt america the day the operation ended. if it ran 1 more day they would have launched

Correction, Russia thought the americans had launched and had the their nuke codes out of the safe so they could retaliate. The exercise ended suddenly because it was armistice day...phew

Operation Able Archer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83

spoiler alert this is the last part, part 8 of 8

"BUT I THINK THE 100 ISRAEL HAS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS".

Nah every nation currently in possession of nukes has more than half a brain. you have nothing to worry about especially regarding India and Pakistan.

Shocking as it may seem, the world is nothing like CN. Any nation using nuclear weapons would become an instant pariah state. Those with the most nuclear weapons understand that their use would obliterate mankind. Smaller nuclear powers understand that the use of nuclear weapons would, at the very least, result in their own destruction.

MAD works. It's incredibly stupid, but it works.

Shocking as it may seem, the world is nothing like CN. Any nation using nuclear weapons would become an instant pariah state. Those with the most nuclear weapons understand that their use would obliterate mankind. Smaller nuclear powers understand that the use of nuclear weapons would, at the very least, result in their own destruction.MAD works. It's incredibly stupid, but it works.

MAD works on the theory that people are of sound mind and fear death/retaliation... what I'm more concerned about is Russia doing their annual stocktake and realising that they have 19999 nukes and then a month later London disapears from a shadowy rogue attack...

Yeah I know its unlikely but say we've got through 50 years without a problem and that's good and all... but can we get through another 50 years...or 50 years after that... I mean you get to a stage where trying to control 30000+ nuke weapons becomes risky particularly when you bring human error, curruption, insanity, and revenge into the mix. If the States and Russia could get themselves down to say just 200 or so warheads I'd feel more trust in the fact you could ensure the highest level of security and control over them hey.

I hear people just store their nukes in a rusty shed. They're also really easy to move about unnoticed due to their light weight, and simple to deploy because of their lack of a security system.

Those statistics in the OP are also frightfully incorrect.

thing thats more possible than the possible nuke going missing, is radioactive material ending up on the blackmarket which can be used for dirty bombs.

I'm a little curious about where you got these numbers. I was listening to an NPR story and they said that the US has around 8,500 warheads (deployed and in stockpiles)... Your graphic has roughly double that amount.

-Craig

The scary part isn't the number of nukes that Russia does have, it's the ones Russia doesn't. For example, did you know that when the Soviet Union dissolved they couldn't account for something like 250 briefcase nukes? Yup. Sleep tight!

I'm a little curious about where you got these numbers. I was listening to an NPR story and they said that the US has around 8,500 warheads (deployed and in stockpiles)... Your graphic has roughly double that amount.-Craig

Its just a random image I pulled from a google image search on the topic... it does seam to be close to figures ive heard quoted in the past however in recent years the US and Russia have been both decomissioning nukes at a steady rate to fullfil their non-proliferation agreements so if this image is a few years old it wouldn't surprise me if official totalls are now lower. Its also worth noting that theres media asumed stockpile sizes and then there's "officialy reported" totalls that may be a little less honest at times.

As no fish hints at though when your dealing with stockpiles of this size it doesn't take much to "loose track" of a few warheads and thats really the point of the OP... pointing out how crazy the situation was with such a shear number of warheads floating around the planet.

The present numbers for the US and Russia are about 1/2 of what is listed in the image you used at the first.

An interesting thing about nuclear weapons, the US has an estimated 8500 nuclear weapons, but only around 2000 of those are active and prepared enough that a timely launch could be possible.